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Earl
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Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 5:41 am |
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Joined: Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:50 pm Posts: 897 Location: Cape Breton, Nova Scotia, Canada Been Liked: 444 times
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We had a situation last evening where we heard terrible static just as one of our regular ladies started to sing her song. She was using one of our new Gemini UHF wireless mics.
At first I thought it was interference from the DJ in the next room, so I handed her a wired mic, and quickly changed frequencies with the dip switches on both the mic and receiver, and inserted fresh batteries for good measure. When the next singer in the rotation did his performance with the wireless, the static was gone.
A couple of hours later, that same lady got up to sing, and the static returned... That's when I noticed she was wearing one of those fancy multi-stone magnetic bracelets on her left wrist... When I asked her to move the mic to her right hand (and keep her left hand behind her back), the static disappeared.
Obviously, the magnetic field from the bracelet was the culprit.
That was a "first" for me, so I thought I'd pass the info along to you folks for future reference.
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Bazza
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Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 5:48 am |
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Probably the only time in scientific history a magnetic bracelet has been proven to actually DO something.
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harpman
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Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:41 pm |
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I'll be on the lookout for magnetic bracelets in the future. A interference problem I've seen is when the singer holds the wireless mic too close to their cell phone.
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purpletib
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Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:06 pm |
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I have been having wireless mic static lately, but I haven't identified a culprit. I plan on having them looked at to see if it is something that can be fixed. Sad thing is I just had them serviced a little over a year ago.
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Jasaoke
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Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 2:54 am |
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Wireless is nice, but I sure do like the reliability of a cable.
Thanks for the heads up.
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Lonman
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Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 10:16 am |
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Joined: Mon Dec 10, 2001 3:57 pm Posts: 22978 Songs: 35 Images: 3 Location: Tacoma, WA Been Liked: 2126 times
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It's funny I ran wirless for a week, pulled them out and most everyone is thanking me for getting the cords back. A few really liked the wireless.
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MrBoo
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Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 10:29 am |
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I personally used wired when my Carvin UX1000-MC died. I went back to it after I took it apart and fixed it. It's as close to "wired" as I've used and that includes Shure SM 58's and Beta's. As a side note, I picked up a Line 6 based on recommendations here and it's reproduction is horrible. I'll only use it for the very last singer in groups of four.
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HighHats
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Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:23 pm |
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I prefer wireless too. I haven't experience bad static with it. I just hate cords and how inconvenient it becomes at times.
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johnny reverb
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Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 5:13 am |
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Great heads up, Earl.....many thanks. Anybody know anything about mics versus pacemakers, or ICDs.......there's a possibility of the mic stopping the singers heart, but I'm more concerned with it causing static in my system......
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chrisavis
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Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 8:13 am |
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johnny reverb wrote: Great heads up, Earl.....many thanks. Anybody know anything about mics versus pacemakers, or ICDs.......there's a possibility of the mic stopping the singers heart, but I'm more concerned with it causing static in my system...... Only during a Bonnie Tyler song.... I only have my S55 mic and DJ mic wired. The other 4 or Vocopro. -Chris
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ripman8
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Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:01 pm |
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My singers are about 5 to 1 in favor of wireless. Even when I explain my betas (one wired and one wireless) are the same quality, that's what they want.
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Alan B
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Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 11:35 am |
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Jasaoke wrote: Wireless is nice, but I sure do like the reliability of a cable.
Thanks for the heads up. Reliability?? If you don't buy junk, your wireless mics should be just as reliable as any corded mic. I use 3 Audio Technica wireless microphones. Two for the singers and one for me. Never had a problem with them of any kind. No dropouts, no static, no nothing. And I get more compliments on how good they sound. My customers love them. For me, I will not use corded mics. Hate the clutter and people tripping over the mic cords. Also avoids the smart guy swinging the mic by the cord (which I wouldn't tolerate anyway). Wireless baby! It's the way to go. Just don't buy crap and you'll have no problem.
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mrmarog
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Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:11 pm |
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Alan B wrote: Two for the singers and one for me. Never had a problem with them of any kind. No dropouts, no static, no nothing. And I get more compliments on how good they sound. My customers love them.
For me, I will not use corded mics. Hate the clutter and people tripping over the mic cords. Also avoids the smart guy swinging the mic by the cord. Same scenario for me except I use Shures. You can keep the cables.
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Lonman
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Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 6:17 pm |
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We have a stage so no one would be able to trip on them. I might favor wireless if there was no stage and just set up on the floor somewhere.
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BigJer
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Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:03 pm |
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I'm reluctantly purchasing a wireless Shure with an SM58 head to appease a local singer and we'll see how it works out. I suspect I won't be able to turn it up very loud since I have no idea of when a singer is going to position the mic so it's pointed at a loud speaker at or near point blank range, but at least this particular singer is very loud to start with.
My 2 cents worth...
The wireless mics I've sung on to date tend to be very unforgiving about proper mic placement. Then there are the singers who I've seen use them at competitor's shows who tend to point them right at loud speakers producing ear piercing squeals. At least you can ring out a stage monitor and so what if you lose a few frequencies by ringing those out? And if you feedback when you're behind a speaker at least it's a loud hum instead of a blood curdling shriek. That's all out the window when somebody starts randomly wandering all over the bar.
And then there are the otherwise good KJs who forget to change the battery which again means ear piercing shrieks and now, we have to worry about charm bracelets as well?
Count me as just not real excited about wireless mics.
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Bazza
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Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:15 pm |
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BigJer wrote: I'm reluctantly purchasing a wireless Shure with an SM58 head to appease a local singer and we'll see how it works out. I suspect I won't be able to turn it up very loud since I have no idea of when a singer is going to position the mic so it's pointed at a loud speaker at or near point blank range, but at least this particular singer is very loud to start with.
The wireless mics I've sung on to date tend to be very unforgiving about proper mic placement. Then there are the singers who I've seen use them at competitor's shows who tend to point them right at loud speakers producing ear piercing squeals. At least you can ring out a stage monitor and so what if you lose a few frequencies by ringing those out? And if you feedback when you're behind a speaker at least it's a loud hum instead of a blood curdling shriek. That's all out the window when somebody starts randomly wandering all over the bar. Huh? Feedback doesnt care if there is a cord or not. They are no more/less susceptible. Someone can point a corded mic...ANY mic at a speaker. I fail to see the point as a wireless SM58 and a corded SM58 have the exact same element and response. The hosts you have seen with feedback are either not paying attention or idiots...or both. You have to watch your stage and be ready, and even forsee problems coming. This is not exclusive to wireless mics but the sign of a good host. BigJer wrote: And then there are the otherwise good KJs who forget to change the battery which again means ear piercing shrieks and now, we have to worry about charm bracelets as well? You can breathe easy as you worries are myth, legend and lore. Your mic will go all night on a set of rechargeables. Do yourself the money saving favor and buy four now. You can leap frog them in the charger and never run out of juice. And even if you forget and the batteries get low, that doesnt make them feedback. How would they get MORE sensitive on LESS power anyway?!
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Brian A
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Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:21 pm |
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Bazza wrote: Your mic will go all night on a set of rechargeables. Do yourself the money saving favor and buy four now. You can leap frog them in the charger and never run out of juice. Amen! And avoid using rechargeable batteries with lower mAh (milli-amp hours). Higher numbers has more capacity, thus longer operating time. My beta58 use 2 AA Sanyo 2700 mAh & can go up to 9 hours. I have a 5hr show so I make it a point to insert fresh ones the following night. The 2 used ones back to the recharge box.
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Alan B
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Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 4:45 am |
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Brian A wrote: Bazza wrote: Your mic will go all night on a set of rechargeables. Do yourself the money saving favor and buy four now. You can leap frog them in the charger and never run out of juice. Amen! And avoid using rechargeable batteries with lower mAh (milli-amp hours). Higher numbers has more capacity, thus longer operating time. My beta58 use 2 AA Sanyo 2700 mAh & can go up to 9 hours. I have a 5hr show so I make it a point to insert fresh ones the following night. The 2 used ones back to the recharge box. Yes, those Sanyo eneloop batteries are awesome. My mics also use two AA batteries. And I agree, with Bazza and everything he said. I feel that if you buy a quality wireless mic, there is basically no difference between it and it's corded counterpart. The positives of having a wireless mic far outweigh having a corded mic.
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TopherM
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Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 5:56 am |
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Quote: Gemini wireless Two words that shouldn't go together
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Bazza
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Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:32 am |
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Brian A wrote: Bazza wrote: Your mic will go all night on a set of rechargeables. Do yourself the money saving favor and buy four now. You can leap frog them in the charger and never run out of juice. Amen! And avoid using rechargeable batteries with lower mAh (milli-amp hours). Higher numbers has more capacity, thus longer operating time. My beta58 use 2 AA Sanyo 2700 mAh & can go up to 9 hours. I have a 5hr show so I make it a point to insert fresh ones the following night. The 2 used ones back to the recharge box. I have been using these Tenergy batteries for years. A GREAT price on a 2600mAh NiMH, and the batteries have stood the test of time and half the price of the Sanyo's. They go all night as well and keep on rockin'. http://www.batteryjunction.com/1po20aaba.htmlI buy 8 new ones annually and offload the older ones to the kids for XBOX controllers, games, etc. Many of the old ones are still going strong for the kids. I also bought some AAA's for other things in the house and they work great as well. Can't recommend them enough.
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