chrisavis wrote:
I am done complaining about it. I will let Chip carry that torch.
My job here is done because I think you've summed it up quite nicely all by yourself.
Good Job Chris!
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| Author: | chrisavis [ Thu Oct 22, 2015 11:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Karaoke Summit 2015 - Fail |
I just sat through 2 hours of exactly what predicted - marketing. They did NOT reveal anything new. They did NOT provide any detail AT ALL regarding how to increase revenues (only the promise that you would) In fact, they didn't provide any detail at all. It was basically a "pat each other on the back" session along with a bunch of "this is going to revolutionize karaoke" spin. Even the ONE KJ they said used it couldn't position it well enough to sell anyone. It will be interesting to check in with that same KJ in a year to see if he is still using it. I truly wish them luck and I know they will have some success with it, but based on the live chat, the sentiment of the participants is that practically all are against the platform. I signed up to test the KaraoQ app for a single venue around a charity event. I am seriously considering just dropping it and doing the event without it. |
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| Author: | Cueball [ Thu Oct 22, 2015 11:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Karaoke Summit 2015 - Fail |
Wasn't there supposed to be a Live Chat, where they would answer questions from those watching/listening to the Webcast? And if so, why didn't you push them for some more answers (or did they just do a song and dance (pun intended) away from those questions)? Well, one thing that was just posted in another Topic Thread, was that PEP/SC was taking over the Chartbuster library and take over the enforcement efforts from Piracy Recovery. |
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| Author: | c. staley [ Thu Oct 22, 2015 11:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Karaoke Summit 2015 - Fail |
Slimy sort of business dealings ain't it? I wonder how much of a percentage PEP is going to keep when they sue venues now for including the CB trademark? Probably 60/40 for a limited time... |
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| Author: | chrisavis [ Thu Oct 22, 2015 11:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Karaoke Summit 2015 - Fail |
cueball wrote: Wasn't there supposed to be a Live Chat, where they would answer questions from those watching/listening to the Webcast? And if so, why didn't you push them for some more answers (or did they just do a song and dance (pun intended) away from those questions)? Well, one thing that was just posted in another Topic Thread, was that PEP/SC was taking over the Chartbuster library and take over the enforcement efforts from Piracy Recovery. There was a live chat, I did ask, and I also pointed out they broke their promise to inform. I am done complaining about it. I will let Chip carry that torch. |
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| Author: | c. staley [ Thu Oct 22, 2015 12:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Karaoke Summit 2015 - Fail |
chrisavis wrote: I am done complaining about it. I will let Chip carry that torch. My job here is done because I think you've summed it up quite nicely all by yourself. Good Job Chris!
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| Author: | Kirks Karaoke [ Thu Oct 22, 2015 1:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Karaoke Summit 2015 - Fail |
cueball wrote: Wasn't there supposed to be a Live Chat, where they would answer questions from those watching/listening to the Webcast? And if so, why didn't you push them for some more answers (or did they just do a song and dance (pun intended) away from those questions)? Well, one thing that was just posted in another Topic Thread, was that PEP/SC was taking over the Chartbuster library and take over the enforcement efforts from Piracy Recovery. Be live it or not at the end they sang "Sweet Caroline" |
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| Author: | Kirks Karaoke [ Thu Oct 22, 2015 1:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Karaoke Summit 2015 - Fail |
cueball wrote: Wasn't there supposed to be a Live Chat, where they would answer questions from those watching/listening to the Webcast? And if so, why didn't you push them for some more answers (or did they just do a song and dance (pun intended) away from those questions)? Well, one thing that was just posted in another Topic Thread, was that PEP/SC was taking over the Chartbuster library and take over the enforcement efforts from Piracy Recovery. Be live it or not at the end they sang "Sweet Caroline" |
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| Author: | Kirks Karaoke [ Thu Oct 22, 2015 1:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Karaoke Summit 2015 - Fail |
cueball wrote: Wasn't there supposed to be a Live Chat, where they would answer questions from those watching/listening to the Webcast? And if so, why didn't you push them for some more answers (or did they just do a song and dance (pun intended) away from those questions)? Well, one thing that was just posted in another Topic Thread, was that PEP/SC was taking over the Chartbuster library and take over the enforcement efforts from Piracy Recovery. Be live it or not at the end they sang "Sweet Caroline" 
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| Author: | doowhatchulike [ Thu Oct 22, 2015 4:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Karaoke Summit 2015 - Fail |
So...do you all think they acquired the public performance licensing you guys talk about on here in order to perform that song at the end of the Summit??? |
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| Author: | c. staley [ Thu Oct 22, 2015 5:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Karaoke Summit 2015 - Fail |
doowhatchulike wrote: So...do you all think they acquired the public performance licensing you guys talk about on here in order to perform that song at the end of the Summit??? I believe that would be the broadcast rights....
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| Author: | Toastedmuffin [ Thu Oct 22, 2015 6:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Karaoke Summit 2015 - Fail |
So let me get this straight.... because my mind just did a loop SC/PEP is going to sue on behalf of Chartbuster Karaoke now?!?!? So everyone that got sued, settled, licensed, certified, etc will have to go through another round of that?!?!? Will the SC HELP Licences cover this? (Prob not), Will the Certified KJ people need to re-audit and pay more fees for CB? (Prob so) Will CB Have its own licencing Payment to make? (Prob so) SC/PEP already has a hit list, so I guess I know where that 1st wave might be headed I guess if this is the case, might be time to just pack up the mics and home, I'm too little to be paying every company monthly fees and make ends meet  ::sigh:: |
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| Author: | Kirks Karaoke [ Thu Oct 22, 2015 9:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Karaoke Summit 2015 - Fail |
Toastedmuffin wrote: So let me get this straight.... because my mind just did a loop SC/PEP is going to sue on behalf of Chartbuster Karaoke now?!?!? So everyone that got sued, settled, licensed, certified, etc will have to go through another round of that?!?!? Will the SC HELP Licences cover this? (Prob not), Will the Certified KJ people need to re-audit and pay more fees for CB? (Prob so) Will CB Have its own licencing Payment to make? (Prob so) SC/PEP already has a hit list, so I guess I know where that 1st wave might be headed I guess if this is the case, might be time to just pack up the mics and home, I'm too little to be paying every company monthly fees and make ends meet ::sigh:: No one knows yet, but stay tuned. |
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| Author: | Alan B [ Thu Oct 22, 2015 11:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Karaoke Summit 2015 - Fail |
chrisavis wrote: I just sat through 2 hours of exactly what predicted - marketing. Did you seriously think that it would be anything other than that?? |
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| Author: | karaokeamerica [ Fri Oct 23, 2015 5:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Karaoke Summit 2015 - Fail |
Kirks Karaoke wrote: No one knows yet, but stay tuned. You may not know, but you can bet that the responses in here are monitored and will likely help shape the outcome. Nothing happens in a vacuum in this context. |
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| Author: | mrmarog [ Fri Oct 23, 2015 5:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Karaoke Summit 2015 - Fail |
karaokeamerica wrote: Kirks Karaoke wrote: No one knows yet, but stay tuned. You may not know, but you can bet that the responses in here are monitored and will likely help shape the outcome. Nothing happens in a vacuum in this context. Is that some sort of veiled threat. |
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| Author: | karaokeamerica [ Fri Oct 23, 2015 5:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Karaoke Summit 2015 - Fail |
mrmarog wrote: karaokeamerica wrote: Kirks Karaoke wrote: No one knows yet, but stay tuned. You may not know, but you can bet that the responses in here are monitored and will likely help shape the outcome. Nothing happens in a vacuum in this context. Is that some sort of veiled threat. How so? |
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| Author: | doowhatchulike [ Fri Oct 23, 2015 5:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Karaoke Summit 2015 - Fail |
c. staley wrote: doowhatchulike wrote: So...do you all think they acquired the public performance licensing you guys talk about on here in order to perform that song at the end of the Summit??? I believe that would be the broadcast rights....Thank you for specifically including my post confirming your never-ending quest to be little more than a disruption, that so many posters have specifically experienced in this forum for some time. This is a perfect example of trolling, where you drive by, quickly throw out a weak jab, and retreat without broaching the actual subject at hand...which is probably just as well... |
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| Author: | mrmarog [ Fri Oct 23, 2015 5:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Karaoke Summit 2015 - Fail |
karaokeamerica wrote: You may not know, but you can bet that the responses in here are monitored and will likely help shape the outcome. Nothing happens in a vacuum in this context. Sounds pretty threatening to me. So if it's not threatening how did you intend it to be interpreted? |
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| Author: | karaokeamerica [ Fri Oct 23, 2015 5:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Karaoke Summit 2015 - Fail |
mrmarog wrote: karaokeamerica wrote: You may not know, but you can bet that the responses in here are monitored and will likely help shape the outcome. Nothing happens in a vacuum in this context. Sounds pretty threatening to me. So if it's not threatening how did you intend it to be interpreted? Honestly, I am having a hard time dignifying this response with a comment. Are you making the silly assumption that I am somehow involved with SC or licensing or whatever? Without that assumption you have no comment at all so please advise. I made an observation based on history. Sorry it was a near miss... |
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| Author: | djdon [ Fri Oct 23, 2015 5:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Karaoke Summit 2015 - Fail |
mrmarog wrote: karaokeamerica wrote: You may not know, but you can bet that the responses in here are monitored and will likely help shape the outcome. Nothing happens in a vacuum in this context. Sounds pretty threatening to me. So if it's not threatening how did you intend it to be interpreted? Sounds more like an unsubstantiated opinion rather than a threat. A threat would imply some action (against someone). "I'm threatening to monitor your posts" is hardly a threat, or at least one to be worried about. Although it's members only, this is STILL basically a public forum. |
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