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Thank goodness!

Again, One more time, and I will type slow so you can keep up. I never presumed guilty or whatever word you choose to use. But what I did ask is, If (BIG IF) they were found to be guilty (again, whatever ever word you choose to use) should the "KJ of The Year Award" title be stripped from them? Yes of no? But, you know what I........ oh never mind.

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Thank goodness, I am tired of trying to edit out the links in my post so I just quit trying.

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Is that type of pure speculation useful? It certainly performs the function of advancing the impugning of the character of a possibly-innocent party. What else does it do?

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Supports an agenda...

Thank you Karen, now I get it.

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What is the agenda you suppose?

Since whan did it become a bad thing to speculate? Whew!

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I asked what it accomplished. I didn't say it was bad. I personally think it is bad, because the speculation accomplishes nothing. There is nothing instructive about the idea of Karaoke Scene considering the revocation of an award. The award is of minimal value. It has no great national import. This speculation, when balanced against the potential damage to the reputation of a possibly-innocent party, is meaningless.

In other words, you are talking about something of no value that could do damage. Sounds like a no-brainer to me to not talk about it. It gets nothing done, and you could end up feeling bad because you helped throw mud on someone who is blameless.

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Alas for those who never sing, but die with all their music in them.
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So accusing somebody of wrongdoing without having the complete information about the situation and then making an apology afterwards when you find out your information is wrong? Wait... that somehow sounds familiar to me...

To be fair, Rumbolt didn't accuse anyone himself. But talking "as if" the allegations are true does advance the narrative a lot farther than it should be advanced. It takes on a life of its own, and since people are continuing to talk about it people begin to assume the allegation is true.

That would be less of a big deal if they weren't one of 47 named people. That is a scattergun process, and it is extremely likely there are one-to-one KJs among the crowd.

If it was totally hypothetical, without a real person at the other end, it would be different.

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[color=#ffff55]Mickey J.[/color]
Alas for those who never sing, but die with all their music in them.
-- Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.

rickgood, it should sound familiar as it is the legal system of most Western countries. The media report when people are charged (not convicted) of criminal acts and if acquitted they seldom get an apology. The media seldom report the full facts of cases. This also happens in civil cases.

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This is awesome.

If I get what everyone is saying about what I posted, then, any discussion of any subject that includes a pending lawsuit and to discuss what might happen down the road is off limits, then what are the forum discussions for? If I follow the logic of the general consensus of this thread then, if this were a science forum we couldn't discuss the possiblity of alien life on another planet since we havent been there yet because we just dont know. Conjecture is what moves thing forward, otherwise, we'd all still believe the earth is the center of the universe.

Note to self, no more discussion on this forum of anything or any legal action that could have a negitive outcome for someone. That means, All pending legal actions by the manus are off limits since it paints a negivite picture of the named individuals (infringers or not) regardless if the manus are within their right or not. No more expressing my opinion (after I do think for myself and a forum is just that, varied opinions behind the veil of an IP address).

Is this what it has come to?
Give me a break!

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Were you banned for it? No.

Was I expressing my opinion that it is bad to throw mud on someone when you have no idea if the allegations are true? Yes.

If I thought this was an important question, i.e. the award, it would be different. But it is a nothing award that only applies to the LA area, and it seems ludicrous to me to have KJs from all over discussing this when all it does is advance the (possibly wrong) narrative of this person as an infringer.

Again, all this is MY OPINION. You asked a question, and I said "I think it is better to not discuss this because the possible damage outweighs the gain from discussing it." That continues to be my opinion.

Again, if it was something important of national import, or a suit brought against one targeted individual, that would be one thing. But to single out this person in a list of 47 with this type of completely ridiculous speculation is just plain wrong in my opinion.

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[color=#ffff55]Mickey J.[/color]
Alas for those who never sing, but die with all their music in them.
-- Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.

You're missing the point. Your original post tended to paint a picture as though this person was already guilty and how they should be punished (if it is finally determined that way). Although in civil cases, there is no such thing as guilt, by simply using such an inflammatory term you made it appear as though there were some type of underhanded or illegal activity going on and that is simply unfair to the person named in the lawsuit.

While I don't believe your original post was done with malice, I believe it is somewhat prejudicial against that particular karaoke company. I have to agree with mckyj57.

With the upmost of respect to you and anyone else that feels i was disrespectful towards the "KJ of the Year" status, we shall agree to disagree.

We shall agree to disagree.

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Thank you, Mckyj57- and agreed....

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