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Chris:

With all your new found SC discs I'm guessing you went over 2% and will be looking for a new audit soon huh?

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Nope. Once I get all of the discs ripped down, I will submit them via email to Sound Choice. No audit necessary.

Also, it will be at least a month, maybe longer to rip everything down as I am traveling for the day job for the next three weeks then going on vacation for a month during which time I am disconnecting from karaoke as much as possible.

-Chris

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-Chris

Chris

You actually started a new thread for this using my name?

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No, I did. If you want to discuss piracy and audits, you have to do it here. We don't want it in the main Karaoke Discussions forum.

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[color=#ffff55]Mickey J.[/color]
Alas for those who never sing, but die with all their music in them.
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OK fair enough

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A stranger is a friend you haven't met yet

Not breaking horns here Chris, I'm truly a bit lost. How does sending an e-mail prove to SC that you actually have the discs?

Do you mean that you e-mail a receipt? If so, couldn't anyone put a decent looking receipt together and e-mail it?

If that's not it, can you help a brother out? I can't figure it out... Thanks in advance for any light you may shed.

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" Disc based and loving it..."

With the way that Sound Choice has handled their side of things, and the paranoia that some feel over getting sued, I believe people are overthinking things.

It is really simple - Take pictures of the discs, provide a list of disc numbers, send it in email. No receipt required.

I will probably rip in batches and send in pics of each batch over time since it will take me a couple of months to integrate into my library anyway.

-Chris

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-Chris

But couldn't you just be photographing someone else's discs? This is what I kept hearing everyone say about Rodney when he was sued and showed a picture of his discs.

My point isn't that this is what you're doing. If the RULES of the audit agreement require that you re-audit when you go over the 2% tolerance, I am wondering why are you exempt?

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Birdofsong

My understanding of the certification and to remain compliant is to due what Chris is saying. Once the KJ has gone through the initial audit in order to maintain there 1:1 compliance is to provide photos and track info to SC.

I see issues with this where one could pull a bait and switch and I can only assume that SC doesn't feel a KJ who has proven 1:1 by doing the initial audit that they would do that.

Personally I think if this is good enough for ongoing compliance it should be good enough for initial certification. If I provide contact info, business name, address, website, facebook etc... and go on record saying I have said disks/tracks that should be good enough if SC feels its good enough for ongoing compliance. Many KJ's started out doing the right thing and then started pirating music later.

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My statements, opinions and conclusions are based on my own personal experiences, observations, research and/or just my own $.02. I'm not a "cheerleader", but that doesn't make me a Pirate.

This is correct as far as it goes. There is no requirement that the KJ re-audit after adding 2%. Considering the source of the comment that you were responding to, I think we can mark that down as "disinformation."



There is one important piece that is missing. A KJ is always subject to re-audit at SC's request. The KJ can decline the re-audit, of course, but the certification would be pulled at that point. So it's mostly good enough for ongoing compliance, but after an initial audit and with the ability to re-audit if necessary.

I am not exempt because there is no forced re-audit at 2% variance.

The "rules" are once you hit 2% variance, send a list of the added tracks/discs to Sound Choice along with pics of the discs.

Again, I think people are thinking way to hard about things.

-Chris

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-Chris

Oh.....as far as people being able to game the system by borrowing discs, I accept that could be an issue. But it is not an issue for me to resolve. I like the way it is handled now and feel it is a good balance between convenience and maintaining compliance.

-Chris

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-Chris

And does SC do this Audit FREE of charge or do they request payment for each time they want to do a re-audit?

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Ordinarily it would be a free audit if SC requested it. If the KJ requests it--such as, if the KJ wanted to be re-certified for some reason--then there would ordinarily be a charge.

Why would a KJ need or want to be re-certified?

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If, for example, they added a second (or third, or 10th) rig.