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Wow so I'm guessing that for many many years people that use copy machines are in violation of the law as just about everything has been copied at one time or another for some purpose other than what it is intended.

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The home user abuser is not going to be sued in court it would be too difficult and time consuming. It is the commercial user abuser that is going to bear the brunt of the legal process. They are more visible and will not have the negative PR backlash that going after the home copier would entail. Even though dollar wise this is where the bulk of the piracy happens.

I was talking about paper copiers (ex:Xerox) How many times have you seen someones logo copied (on paper) and then distributed to make money in some form or another. Although I have seen some suits I haven't seen a lot. Logos get copied and used every day and if you think not just browse E-Bay.

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Sorry wrong copying machine.

Nor does it constitute unauthorized duplication- unless you care to prove otherwise- hence, wording on SC labels. Until or unless the laws clearly define "unauthorized duplication", SC's wishes are just that- wishes- at least as far as disc to disc dupes. In regard to media shifting from disc to PC: Don't have a legal precedent, but DO KNOW that ONLY THE PUBLISHERS/OWNERS might be able to authorize it- SC DOES NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO GIVE SUCH PERMISSION, and therefore has an almost non-existent case in court regarding the trademark that they may or may not have had permission to tack on to the tracks.

LONE: That 90-95% that you keep quoting is what Kurt claims- no one has come close to verifying it.

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I find that hysterical. Has Kurt traveled the whole country and visited EVERY show and talked to EVERY KJ to find out if they stole their material?? I think it is a ridiculous claim, myself. I still think the whole thing is ridiculous, and it's all Kurt's doing. Now he wants to make things ever worse by trying to get publishers involved. The man should be run out of the business because he is bad for the whole thing.

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Supposedly smooth the way this figure comes about is taking the number of karaoke operations now figured at the summit to be somewhere between 45,000 and 48,000, and comparing it to the sales figures of SC. How this formula works is still a mystery much like the way they arrive at the total number of hosts in the country. Like they say figures don't lie but liars figure. The high probability of an operations being pirate justifies at least in the manus mind these shotgun mass filing suits, they are bound to hit something. Problem is they are just as likely to get some innocent bystanders in the crossfire.

I run a karaoke show. I haven't bought ANY Sound Choice since I started it. I have been using downloads so I get just what I need when I need it. I wonder how many other hosts are doing the same. That would cut down on SC's profits, too, without ANY pirated music being used. They could come at me, and I would tell them, pointblank, sorry, until you come up with a better delivery system I refuse to buy your material. I can find quality karaoke elsewhere, with other companies, without paying as much as they charge. Does that make me a pirate? No. It makes me a smart shopper. Kurt is a fool, for not fighting for the licensing he need to offer downloads. Like I have said before, if DTE and All Star can do it, anyone can. I don't need to steal music because I can get get THE SONGS I NEED, without all the fluff, when I need it, thanks to a couple of innovative companies.

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Like you Smooth I have been boycotting SC for years and it hasn't effected my bottom line one bit. Except for the fact that I haven't had to pay for SC product, and of course have avoided the expense of trying to defend myself from frivolous law suits.

Technically, I am boycotting SC. I don't want to have to buy expensive discs and but a bunch of songs I don't need for one that I do. As I have said, I will go back to them when they modernize and join the year 2013 and offer single song downloads. If they never do, then they won't have me as a customer.

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