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We have the Gem en route to our home. We are overjoyed. Alot out there complain its just a lease and you don't own it. Well it's going to take us where we want to go. Alot of people lease cars so what. Whats funny is those that are complaining that its a lease are leaving there's at home not using them because they don't want an inspection sticker and pay for registration...Tell you what, our customers, and soon to be new customers will love our new ride. Can't you smell that smell, ah, that new car smell...Love it...

Jon

Yes but at the end of the car lease you can buy it if you want....you can't do that with the gem series.

They never ever belong to you...unless of course SC goes out of business and doesn't reclaim them. But then again someone would buy the name/trademark and your lease agreement.

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Are you trolling for an argument of some sort?

And your "model" of car is out of production and has been for a few years... I doubt what you're smelling is anything "new."

But it does come with a free colonoscopy and a handcuffs disguised as a wedding ring I understand....

Oh, and you're also a few thousand lighter so it's great for losing any extra cash around the middle too!
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the difference i see between a business vehicle lease and a GEM lease is that after a few years you return the leased vehicle and can get a newer one, not with the GEM, two different ideas alltogether.

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i might change my mind if they started producing at a meaningful level new material.

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Yeah but how much will that lease car cost you to buyout? And if your over the alloted mileage (damn how dare they tell you how far you are allowed to drive), you may as well give them your first, second, and third born. Oh and if you return the vehicle damaged or it hasn't been taken care of, wait for the cost on that.

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The car lease is probably not generating you any revenue while the GEM lease is. It pays for itself over time and them some.

Chip - Elvis hasn't put out a new tune in a long time either, but people still buy and sing his stuff. Sound Choice actually can come back from the dead too.

-Chris

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The problem is, in certain areas, they ARE losing their relevance. If they continue their current path many KJs will stop using their products. I know you don't believe that, because you really like them and are happy with what they are doing. Others are not so happy with what they are doing, and can find quality songs without using them. What you have to understand is not everyone is made from the same mold, not everyone wants to be told what to do and how to do things.

I know some of you WOULD like all KJs to be FORCED to get certified just to be able to find work. I know Lisah is one of those. Personally, I find that to be wrong thinking. I just want to work, without bother or extra hoops, or extra expense. I'm going to be a one man operation, with a singer based collection of songs, which is why I want to get the KJ Media Pro system, and use such services as Tricerasoft. I don't want every song on the planet, nor do I want to be forced to buy (or lease) a bunch of songs I will never use, as the GEM series does.

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If that's true, why is it that when I walk into 100 different bars with karaoke shows, 90 of them play at least 50% SC tunes, whether I stay 30 minutes or 3 hours?

You haven't been around here, i guess. SC isn't too relevant around here. None of you seem to believe me, but things are different in this neck of the woods. Maybe we are cut off from mainstream culture, I don't know. I'd like to keep it that way, though. Small towns, small businesses, small concerns. We have no big entertainment companies around here. It's all one or two people operations here. Around here, when people update their systems it's with stuff they buy at Wal-mart. . It's funny, I own more SC than most of the KJs around here. My collection is mostly Headbangers, and various groups, because it's the stuff I sing.

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It sounds to me that in your area they didn't lose relevance so much as maybe never had it at all. That is really beside the point considering I have never been to a karaoke club/bar in the last 10 years that did not carry a decent chunk of Sound Choice and generally chooses that over other material. Chances are many of those were pirate hosts as well considering the size of the libraries I have seen at many of the venues I have been to. I do realize that I have not been to every club, everywhere though and there are certainly a minority of hosts that have taken a stand and don't play Sound Choice at all. I have yet to run across one though so they are most assuredly a minority. Perhaps even as little as 1% or less of hosts.

As long as your operate legally, I don't care what brand music you use.

-Chris

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That is why I am always trying to find out what brands and services I can use, so I don't have to use disks, and don't have to incur extra expense. SGB (as has been verified by Pyledriver's questioning, TYVM), All Star, Part Tyme, and now Pop Hits Monthly have all stated that we can rip their music as long as we have the corresponding disks, or in the case of Tricerasoft and Select-A-Track who's music can be used in public. That, already is a good chunk of brands that aren't making people jump through hoops to use their products. I have no problem buying discs and ripping them, especially if I don't have to pay extra for the privilege to do so, or have to sign contracts with vendors. Hey, I like to keep my life simple. If they day comes where SC comes up with a different way to deal with their customers, I will be happy to go back to being a customer of theirs. Come up with a KJ Media Pro type system, or whatever, where I can buy just what I want to buy, and not have to jump through hoops, I will be right on board.

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Quick answer: You are not hanging out in my neck of the woods, where the SC label is quickly fading to a memory..

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" Disc based and loving it..."

Congratulations! That's terrific! Would you be kind enough to explain how the GEM series will do that?

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" Disc based and loving it..."

Joe we've been runnin' our show since November without SC, while the other pirate KJ's in town have. You figure it out from there...

Jon

The ones that i've found that are seeking SC quality are actually really good singers - yes that still spend their fair share in the club. The ones that really don't give a rip are those who aren't as good. SC isn't important to the latter. It's nice to hear some really good singers throughout a night over the stereotypical 'karaoke' singer/screamer.
I will agree there are decent versions elsewhere, but 9 out of 10 times, if SC did it, it's going to be better - not always, but mostly.

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Back on topic.....



No. It's ever BETTER than a car lease, because, it's not a lease. It's a licensing agreement..

With a car you MUST buy it or return it at the end of the agreement. With the GEM license you can use it forever....for $33 a year (and most likely not even that).

Yes, you never "own" it. And you don't need to own it as you can use it for as long as you want. The end result is the same, except "owing" costs three times more.

I'll take the license.



Whether or not the songs are relevant, new, etc, has nothing to do with whether or not it's a "buy/lease/license/etc". The GEM series is a "Base Set" and an excellent starting point for a new or additional rig. For that, it's the best option going IMO.

I can't, or wouldn't have asked.

Are you saying that you are unable to run a successful show without this particular series of discs?

Are you saying that you are just starting to build a library, and these discs will fill it out enough to round out your title coverage?

Are you saying that a large venue or chain has promised you an account if you buy this series?


Are you saying that you are about to go digital and the pre-ripped discs will make that easier?

There are many possible answers to the question, which is why I asked.....

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" Disc based and loving it..."

Because good singers seek quality music. Not stuff like SGB.

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I can't see the realization in it. You LEASE/LICENSE/WHATEVER the Gem series for $3,000 on sale today an SC decides they don't want to be in business any more 6 months from now and recalls all IT'S (because you don't own it) merchandise from the licensee's because they don't want them out there anymore...End story you are out $3,000 and no way have you made enough money in 6 months to cover that!

That's even worse than a Car Fleece (yea I spelled it correctly). It's as bad as "Rent To Own" except you will never own it, and I don't believe you would get your $3,000 back if you tried to sell it. I don't know if there is a clause somewhere that SC has put out that says if you sell it what the price has to be, but damn sure that the person you sell it to will have to sign an agreement with SC just like you did.

You don't have to do that with a Car Fleece. You can sell the car to anyone you want at any price you want as long as you pay the buy out price to the people you have the Fleece with.

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