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Even I don't HATE SC or Kurt. I hate what Kurt is doing. I hate what Jim is doing. I hate the fact that they have turned a fight over piracy into a cash cow where anyone who shifts their music to a computer is thought of as a pirate, first, and has to pay for their innocence. That is the problem here. That make the innocent PAY to remain innocent, OR they have to stay in the dark ages and use the damn discs until they are worn out garbage. It is shameful.

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Smoothedge69 wrote:
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They would ... stop treating their customers like they are criminals.


Hey, you're a SC customer.

You haven't been sued.

You haven't been harassed.

You haven't even been investigated.

You've been offered a free audit and certification.

So, as a SC customer, based on your actual personal experience with the company, how exactly have you been treated like you're a criminal?

I'm all ears.

If i came on here and said that I media shifted my SC, you would be on my like flies on poop, treating me like Nixon's illegitimate crack baby.
Then let ME say it... I have media shifted my discs! No, I'm NOT certified! Smooth, you and a couple of others, are taking this way too far and should back off a bit and chill out.

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Alan B wrote:
Smoothedge69 wrote:
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They would ... stop treating their customers like they are criminals.


Hey, you're a SC customer.

You haven't been sued.

You haven't been harassed.

You haven't even been investigated.

You've been offered a free audit and certification.

So, as a SC customer, based on your actual personal experience with the company, how exactly have you been treated like you're a criminal?

I'm all ears.

If i came on here and said that I media shifted my SC, you would be on my like flies on poop, treating me like Nixon's illegitimate crack baby.
Then let ME say it... I have media shifted my discs! No, I'm NOT certified! Smooth, you and a couple of others, are taking this way too far and should back off a bit and chill out.


Your SC discs?? I have shifted all my others, just not my SC.

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Smoothedge69 wrote:
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They would ... stop treating their customers like they are criminals.


Hey, you're a SC customer.

You haven't been sued.

You haven't been harassed.

You haven't even been investigated.

You've been offered a free audit and certification.

So, as a SC customer, based on your actual personal experience with the company, how exactly have you been treated like you're a criminal?

I'm all ears.

If i came on here and said that I media shifted my SC, you would be on my like flies on poop, treating me like Nixon's illegitimate crack baby.
Then let ME say it... I have media shifted my discs! No, I'm NOT certified! Smooth, you and a couple of others, are taking this way too far and should back off a bit and chill out.


Your SC discs?? I have shifted all my others, just not my SC.
That's right, SC discs included!

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That's right, SC discs included!

OMG!!! You are NOW on RADAR!!!!! LOL

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Chris, Attached is a picture I have on the front and back of all my song books. You would be surprised on how few people even care that we own our music! :(. Currently the photo is in black and white about 1/2 a page, but I'm going to change it to full page and color. I actually have couple hundred more that aren't in the photo, but I think this gets the point across.

Request permission to borrow your sign, mrmarog. 8) Great idea. I’d like to do the same; attach a picture with a sign on the front of my song books - “Original Manufacturers’ Discs. Yes, we own all of our music…..etc.”

Tho’ I don’t have over 6,000 I have 3,500 cds (1,440 sc’s) & a whole lot downloads from sbi, kv, sf & kc. Cheers!
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Tho’ I don’t have over 6,000 I have 3,500 cds (1,440 sc’s) & a whole lot downloads from sbi, kv, sf & kc. Cheers!

OMG!!!! You can't use Karaoke Channel songs!!!! Are you out of your MIND!!!! Harrington will start drooling all over himself, wanting to report you to KC's representatives!!! OMG!!! Brian, how COULD you????




Disclaimer: I am being facetious. I am SURE you mean Karaoke Cloud. :D

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Brian A wrote:
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Chris, Attached is a picture I have on the front and back of all my song books. You would be surprised on how few people even care that we own our music! :(. Currently the photo is in black and white about 1/2 a page, but I'm going to change it to full page and color. I actually have couple hundred more that aren't in the photo, but I think this gets the point across.

Request permission to borrow your sign, mrmarog. 8) Great idea. I’d like to do the same; attach a picture with a sign on the front of my song books - “Original Manufacturers’ Discs. Yes, we own all of our music…..etc.”

Tho’ I don’t have over 6,000 I have 3,500 cds (1,440 sc’s) & a whole lot downloads from sbi, kv, sf & kc. Cheers!
Welcome back Brian!!!!! We haven't heard from you in quite a while. That is quite an impressive display :o How long did it take you to lay them all out and then put them away? Yes of course use my idea and if you improve on it please share with us.


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There is absolutely no way you can make tracks that are piracy proof. No way... That goes for every type of audio or video. The sooner the music and movie producers realized that, the sooner they started making money again.


Incorrect!

Sell only encrypted downloads that need a dongle to play them.
If you can hear it or see it, there is always a way to capture it to pirate if one were so determined - dongle or not. If it can be played, it can be captured.

But in the case of encrypted files the pirated file could be traced back to the dongle, as it is adding part of the digital watermarking to the audio file.

Of course this would only work with new files utilizing this type of DRM environment. So, for example, if Sound Choice were to produce new works they could implement this to help stave off new piracy.

I don't think you understand what you are talking about. You are planning on watermarking analog audio?

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I don't think you understand what you are talking about. You are planning on watermarking analog audio?

Spread spectrum audio watermarking - SSW


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I firmly believe that people are blinded by hatred for Kurt and SC - a hatred that was inspired by and fostered by just a small number of individuals - that prevents people from allowing themselves to be open in any way to appreciating what SC/PEP is doing to stay in business.



Same nonsense. No one can hate a corporate entity- it's not alive.

I do not hate either Kurt or Jim. I don't know them. I am not stupid enough to think that internet forum debates are a way to know the full range of someone's personality.

I would add that off-forum communications with Jim have always been civil and respectful- with pleasant even thrown in now and again.

As a matter of fact, the one phone call that I shared with Kurt was civil as well- though we both sort of avoided certain subjects.

Hate? Only in your your mind Chris. I'll tell you something else. I have had many off-forum phone conversations with some of those whose views on SC are completely opposed to mine, and have made some friends in the process. I also continually invite those whose views differ from mine ( and of course, those who agree) to call me.

Any "hate" here on this forum seems to be minimal to almost nonexistent.



I intentionally used a strong word to demonstrate just how intense and unwavering people are about this. The absolute inability to accept anything but ones own truth must be attributed to something. I attach it to hate in this case because it fits well with tone of the responses. The other words that fit well are stupidity and ignorance, both of which are the groundwork for hate.

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Tho’ I don’t have over 6,000 I have 3,500 cds (1,440 sc’s) & a whole lot downloads from sbi, kv, sf & kc. Cheers!

OMG!!!! You can't use Karaoke Channel songs!!!! Are you out of your MIND!!!! Harrington will start drooling all over himself, wanting to report you to KC's representatives!!! OMG!!! Brian, how COULD you????

Disclaimer: I am being facetious. I am SURE you mean Karaoke Cloud. :D

Relax. smooth :) KC as in karaoke cloud (dt). I know kchannel’s downloads are for private use only - according to their tos. Tho’ I no longer download dt tracks due to some unresolved issues, i.e., payment receipt accountability, redownload from your history & sample bit of tracks before purchase.

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Welcome back Brian. Nice Pool Table... oh, and nice collection of disks too. :D


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Welcome back Brian!!!!! We haven't heard from you in quite a while.

Nice to be back to the old grind. :lol: ‘been inactive from the forum for 4 months. To make it short – it was just a sh**ty twist of fate that turned my world upside down. My wife was diagnosed with lymphoma cancer & I devoted my time attending to her needs mostly dr.’s appt’s & hospitalization. But all is well & good. It’s in remission after 9 chemo sessions. No regrets, definitely worth the effort.

Miss this place (especially the wits of ‘cough cough’ alan b & bazza) LOL i’m kidding. My apologies for sidetracking a bit from the topic.

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Welcome back Brian. Nice Pool Table... oh, and nice collection of disks too. :D


thanks, cue.

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Brian A wrote:
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Welcome back Brian!!!!! We haven't heard from you in quite a while.

Nice to be back to the old grind. :lol: ‘been inactive from the forum for 4 months. To make it short – it was just a sh**ty twist of fate that turned my world upside down. My wife was diagnosed with lymphoma cancer & I devoted my time attending to her needs mostly dr.’s appt’s & hospitalization. But all is well & good. It’s in remission after 9 chemo sessions. No regrets, definitely worth the effort.

Miss this place (especially the wits of ‘cough cough’ alan b & bazza) LOL i’m kidding. My apologies for sidetracking a bit from the topic.
It certainly shows you real quick what is truly important in ones life...... good choice :biggrinthumb:


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Brian, I was just wondering about what happened to you and here you are back. I'm glad you're back and that everything's ok with your wife.

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I firmly believe that people are blinded by hatred for Kurt and SC - a hatred that was inspired by and fostered by just a small number of individuals - that prevents people from allowing themselves to be open in any way to appreciating what SC/PEP is doing to stay in business.



Same nonsense. No one can hate a corporate entity- it's not alive.

I do not hate either Kurt or Jim. I don't know them. I am not stupid enough to think that internet forum debates are a way to know the full range of someone's personality.

I would add that off-forum communications with Jim have always been civil and respectful- with pleasant even thrown in now and again.

As a matter of fact, the one phone call that I shared with Kurt was civil as well- though we both sort of avoided certain subjects.

Hate? Only in your your mind Chris. I'll tell you something else. I have had many off-forum phone conversations with some of those whose views on SC are completely opposed to mine, and have made some friends in the process. I also continually invite those whose views differ from mine ( and of course, those who agree) to call me.

Any "hate" here on this forum seems to be minimal to almost nonexistent.



I intentionally used a strong word to demonstrate just how intense and unwavering people are about this. The absolute inability to accept anything but ones own truth must be attributed to something. I attach it to hate in this case because it fits well with tone of the responses. The other words that fit well are stupidity and ignorance, bit of which are the groundwork for hate.


From your post above: " The absolute inability to accept anything but ones own truth must be attributed to something."

Am I to understand that you only apply this statement to people other than yourself?

I would disagree, as I believe we all see truth through our own experience- that would include you.

Therefore the words you tacked on (Hate, ignorance, and stupidity) are simply reactions to anyone not seeing "truth" through your eyes, and have no basis in fact. You described "SC Haters" and yet there is no evidence of any here.

As for YOUR descriptions of ignorance and stupidity, it can be successfully argued that supporting a company whose only contributions to your own industry are negative might well be described in the same manner. It's certainly isn't logical.

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.....AND WELCOME BACK, Brian!

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