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I am the ONLY SANE 1 HERE

I think one of the things this story shows is even though some think SC is heavy handed, their stance is understandable. Now in this case the offender is an idiot for posting what he or she posted, there are many others trying to stay under the radar.

Now most of the people here I will presume to be honest and shift 1:1, however, unless an audit is conducted, there is no way to know if someone is 1:1. I know, I know, they can take your word and we all know that pirates and offenders are honest. They will say "Why yes Mr Harrington I run on computer and have no discs or bought any tracks".

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You can be strange but not a stranger

you cant use I tunes for commercial use sorry, Read your agreement.

Timberlea I would think you would open a Tim Hortens Eh?

There are Tim Horton's within spitting distance anywhere in a metropolitan area. We have no Popeye's here.

There are jobs out there and even if not, it doesn't give you the right to steal.

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You can be strange but not a stranger

Piracy is bad. Don't do it.

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I am the ONLY SANE 1 HERE

So others run illegally, that gives you the right to AND admit you are freely going to do so? Nice piece of work!

If they are in production, then they will replace them. If not, then either delete them from your list or look for replacement discs from stores or used like e-bay. Just like everyone else!

Take care of your discs and there will be no problem. I have discs I bought in 94 that still look and play perfectly today. Using anything other than jewel cases to store discs are going to be the death of a disc - scratching the underside which can be fixed and the printed side - which makes them unuseable. Underside scratches can be fixed with a small CD resurfacer like the JFJ Easy Pro.


Conservatives/Liberals, doesn't make a bit of difference, equal opportunity doesn't mean you get to steal your way into business. THAT'S a crock! You said it, it does take at least SOME money to be able to make money. There are basic equipment needs & basic core music that any karaoke company does need that can be purchased cheaply. For $5000 you can get a pretty decent sound system AND a decent core music selection.
If you buy COmpuhost for your laptop and then purchase the Chartbuster Hard drive for like $199, then you only buy your songs as needed, purchasing a block of credits, then each credit equals one song you can unlock from the hard drive, no shelling out thousands in a lump sum. Only get what you need. At first you will probably be buying most of your songs nightly - figure approx 60 songs in a 4 hour block.

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No the piracy exists because people want something for nothing. These people are commonly referred to as thieves!
There are plenty of karaoke packs you can buy cheaply on E-Bay like the Foundations & Essential packs. Alot cheaper like the Supercores and Sweet Georgia Brown - although the quality isn't very good.


There are plenty of legal sources for DJ music that you still have to PURCHASE from - they are called cd's (which are really cheap for older stock these days). Pawn Shops and swap meets are another great source for cheap used discs. Here is a great article on how to become a 'legal' dj
http://www.ehow.com/how_5028666_start-l ... iness.html

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You people don't care, so why bother posting this??

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We are actually being kind to you. You have come here with a sense of entitlement. We have all made our way on our own.

You want to make some money? Scrub toilets. Pass out flyers for Subway. Deliver pizzas. Get off your @ss and stop whining and do what you need to do to be a decent human being. If you're a thief, you don't deserve respect, so don't expect to get it. You just came here to justify your decision to steal. People have already given you information on getting some discs cheaply, but you're not interested, because you've already decided you're going to steal.

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Birdofsong

KIND?? KIND??? I think not!!That's right, more condescension!! I haven't decided a damned thing BECAUSE of you people. Pat yourselves on the back!!



BTW, I see you lurking there Harrington. Go ahead, tell me what vehicle I drive. I DARE you!!!

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No the RIAA & publiching houses do that.

Oh sorry for the accusation, it was based on this quote from you Giving the assumption that you would steal it, make your own cdg's UNTIL you could afford to buy. My apologies if I took all that out of context.


How bout borrowing from a family member. Again the Compuhost player for the laptop & Chartbuster hard drive would be a perfect start. Nothing major cash out of pocket & buy what you need only.

We are ALL for helping others get going, but not if they make the claims they are going to 'do what they have to do' ie downloading illegally. This will garner no support and what most every KJ here is fighting against!


Again understanding only goes so far. Becoming a thief to make a business doesn't garner any understanding!
Size of library means squat! Having what people want means everything. I compete with people that tout 100K libraries & people come to my meager 13K (over 20 years) show because I actually take the time to find and buy what the singers want that the other shows don't.

Another factor you should consider, many bars don't pay a whole lot anymore - especially if you aren't established, don't know where you are or how the karaoke market is doing there. Around here, you are LUCKY to find a place that will pay as high as $100, even less for inexperience. Also with the gas prices predicted to bo over $5 this summer, this directly cuts into peoples entertainment funds & generally they don't go out to support bars and shows. So you may find it even harder to find bars willing to hire a company that would still make it worth your time & effort. Just some of the flipside of the business to ponder.

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My favorite song to sing is Slow and Easy from Whitesnake.

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Chartbuster already does that. They have a hard drive that allows you to pay to unlock only the songs you want. I'm pretty sure someone mentioned it already to you in this thread.

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Birdofsong

There is nothing to fight. The manus all know we'd love to download directly from them, however whether they want to pay for the additional licensing to cover downloaded content for commercial use is another story. They've been asked and told how much better they'd do, and i'm sure they know it as well. 3 Years ago, you wouldn't have seen ANY digital content from the Big 3, today they all have digital libraries that cost considerably less then purchasing discs. Chartbusters team up with Compuhost with their entire library on a hard drive and you only buy/unlock what you need on the spot is the closest you can get to being able to download. $500 gets you a great hosting software and over 12,000 songs available to purchase. Once purchased, they are yours. Cheapest way to build your library without having to buy a bunch of discs of songs you don't want nor need.
Yes it would be great to say "i'll have it by your next turn", but in reality, that isn't the case. I have to settle for telling them, I will have it for you soon - which I usually come through often times. So custom discs are the perfect solution for buying individual song requests, instead of buying 15 different discs for that 1 song one each, you buy a 15 song disc of exactly the 15 songs you need. Again, no more buying a bunch of discs of songs you don't want nor need.


Yep it would be great, and the companies know that we want it, but again, it's up to them to pay for licensing.
As far as outlets, many of the illegal sites are out of country and our laws cannot touch them. They do what they can in this country and have got some sites shut down, problem is more pop up as quickly as they are taken out. Same with the E-Bay/Craigslist listings, as soon as anyone sees those drives, they post links here so we can all flag the item as illegal and they get taken down as well.

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SEVERAL times over. Cheapest way to get into the business legally, and not have to fork out tons of cash up front! But I do not think he's hearing it.

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Um, Smooth, I think you should find another source of income. A KJ company isn't as easy as you might have thought. Using the word 'company' kinda sticks in my throat because the ones I know of are hardly big enough to call a 'company'... mostly we are small one-man businesses. AND we are hurting from people that think it's fun to go out and do karaoke shows with illegal music.... this has brought the price that we can ask down by at least half! My 'company' has been in business for 30 years, we started karaoke about 20 years ago. The time and effort spent to build up our karaoke and dj libraries is extensive, not to mention the cost. Twenty years ago one laser disc was $85 (somebody correct this if I'm shy on this amount), we bought 60 of them over time and now they, while not useless, are not being used because players are extinct (I know, look on ebay.. done that ) but be also don't want to haul them around... Anyway, my point is that we have put in our 'time', invested greatly to a family business. The owner of this business is 60 years old and just about to lose his home BECAUSE of the lack of work now (illegal KJ's and the like undercutting our prices big time!). What is he going to do? Go out and sweep floors? He is going to keep at it with the hundreds of thousands of dollars invested, and hopefully when/if the kj/dj market improves, he'll be able to retire? Um...maybe when he's 80?

So, what I'm telling you is... you don't have what it takes to start a kj business right now.. there are jobs out there, maybe not what you want to do, but they're better than nothing.. babysit if you have to!! You hit a nerve with us here because all we really saw was how you're borrowing libraries (illegal), downloading (illegal), making your own(?) (also illegal)... all this hits a sore nerve with us here! Listen to Mr. Harrington, he is here to answer our legal questions... to help us stay legal and out of trouble BECAUSE the laws are confusing.. he gave you good advice, don't push it or you won't own anything for the rest of your life...your venues could be in trouble for hiring you as well.
So, do whatever you can do (collect cans for goshsakes!), put a dollar in the cookie jar every time you get $20, and when you have the money to do it right, then come back and we'll be happy to help you.

(You posted a new msg while I was typing this one.. there are so many more things for you to learn, Grasshopper)

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> It's CB. I hate CB. Their PHM series is garbage. The renditions are terrible. Are All Hits disks still available? How about DK?

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Would've LOVED to find a place that sold them that cheap, I was paying $120-150 per disc.

Rip them!

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