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20 years.
I did not want to have to put a physical scratch in the disc ring. That leads to break down & weakens the plastic at that point which could cause cracks in the disc. When I found out they went to a ultraviolet stamp method, I immediately contacted them! CB was going to be next, but figured i'd get my larger collection out of the way first. Hopefully Digitrax will have some kind of method as well for the CB tracks.

Given the 3 choices I'll take #2
Just wondering what they would do if I were using this?

http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/stores ... =DVPCX995V

They would never see a disc.

So accounting records realting to acquisition, disposition and use of MEDIA records would be:

Acquisition: Receipts and/or bill of sales for purchases?

Dispostition: copy of bill of sale or similar if media was sold to another individual or entity?

Use of Media: Copy of forms or payment and or 1099's? Not really sure why they'd want this?

Have I missed or overlooked anything?

I have a friend that uses one of those for her show, and it is LOADED with Sound Choice. But if an inspector were to come in, they would see NO discs, whatsoever.

First, it's not a one time occurrence. Second, it's not the KJ who is benefiting from an audit but instead are being charged for doing something they should be allowed to do in the first place. I don't care how you spin it SC is trying to use ALL KJs for their own benefit at the KJs expense.

My information does in fact come from the Pre-Suit Audit agreement which I mistakenly referred to as my CNS.

However, in comparing my actual CNS forms to the one you linked (and there are some slight differences btw), there is ZERO mention of providing financial information to Sound Choice, in either my version of the CNS or the one you linked to.

Voluntary audits do not require you to show anything more than a proof of purchase.

-Chris

Again, they are not asking for your IRS records, how much you make or pay a year, or anything other than proof of purchase.

Yeah, that would be it.

Here is how that comes up. You have to remember that we use this document for several different purposes, and we audit under several different circumstances. One of the things we are occasionally having to guard against is the situation where someone buys discs to "cover" tracks that they didn't have discs for at the time of an investigation. So we will sometimes ask for documentation on when a disc was acquired. Other times, someone who is an active buyer and seller of discs might need to account for having had a disc during a show investigation that they later sold. If you had a disc but sold it--which is OK--we might ask for documentation about the date on which you sold it.

The third item is usually more important when somebody is running multiple rigs. We settled a case with a guy one time who was running 9 rigs or so. Most people that run that many systems keep track of at least some basic accounting information so that they know what each rig is producing, etc. This guy was no exception--he had a spreadsheet that he used to keep track of revenues and payments for each system. If we were running an audit on him, we'd probably want to take a look at that spreadsheet so that we could make sure he hadn't created additional systems that we didn't know about.

Again..... you are mixing VOLUNTARY audits with someone who was sued.

In a voluntary audit, you do not provide anything more than proof of purchase.

-Chris

I still really don't get the need for the financial records portion of the CNS.

Adquisition:
Is not having the original media enough to prove a purchase was made or in the very least that I would be 1:1 providing I had one copy of those tracks on one hard drive? It's good enough for an audit and initial certification, no?

Disposition:
If I sold some SC material wouldn't I want to document that as a defense if a case was ever made against me? Honestly if I was being sued by SC, I'd think they wouldn't want me to have that information.

Use of media:
If a KJ is operating illegally and working off the books and doesn't keep track of all of his/her financial records or claims he doesn't where does that leave you?

Can SC not aquire this type of information from venues?

Again we're talking about KJ's volunteering and paying for the audit, not potential pirates that were sought out and given the option of an audit at no cost. I realize the need for some of this in regards to pirate KJ's but not the one's who are trying to comply with SC's request whether they agree with it or not.

Seems to me there should be a CNS for KJ's who volunteer and another CNS for KJ's who opt to audit after being named in a suit.