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I guess we disagree...in my opinion the requirement to load the discs to a HD makes them a specialized computer...even if the input device is a remote control or keypad on the unit. I do find they are good for home use, we have one set up in the game room of my daughter's house.

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Of course it's a computer. It has a CPU. It has memory. It has hard drive storage. It has a display. It has an user input device.

By ANY modern definition, that's a computer. It's just a very limited one-trick-pony "karaoke computer for dummies".

Then you should be able to run it no problem. With your short attention span it would be too much for you to have to sit and load one, I don't think you could do it.

My my...touched a nerve I see. How exactly, do you think songs are loaded on a "real" computer? Try not to use the Romans as an example.

There is really no simpler system than a PC based system running good hosting software.

I can type any part of a Artist or Title or DiscID and pull up a track in less than 2 seconds.

type "bos ama" and I can find "Boston - Amanda"
type "boston" and every track with boston in the artist or title field comes up.
type "amanda" and every track with amanda in the artist or title field comes up.

I frequently have people ask me what tracks I have by a specific artist. I just type in the artist name and show them. Or "Do you have that track by Mariah Carey? I think it is somethingsomethingsomething 'heartbreak'"? I just type "Mariah Heart" and I find "Bringin' on the Heartbreak".

Once I had someone ask me for a song from a specific Sound Choice disc. He gave me the DiscID which I typed in and then we found the song that way.

If the system or karaoke software can't do that, then I will not use it.

-Chris

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I thought you said the jukebox was a real computer, now it's not Bazza? Chris you are doing a lot of the work punching in everything for someone. All my patron does is pickup the book find the song and give me the number, he does the looking I just put in the number. That is why it is one of the simplest systems to use.

No different than loading a computer. It took me approx. 4 months to fully rip all my cdg's, around 4 hours per day. Only thing about cavs jukebox (JB99/JB199) that I would never use one - their lyrics always lagged a bit throwing the singer off. Plus you HAVE to use a generic numbering system in order to use it, so no being able to identify a manu in the number for the books.

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I can search by number, title or artist or a combo of all. A computer offers the ability to search for a song if they only know a portion of the title. I had as scenario a few weeks back, where a singer couldn't find a duet song in the book, they knew Garth Brooks sang on it and had something to do with Heart in the title. I just typed in Garth Heart & the song they wanted popped up. Since the duet was listed under Trisha Yearwood (which they couldn't remember her name) they couldn't find it, but they gave me enough to go on to find the song with a quick search - Garth Heart = Trisha Yearwood & Garth Brooks - Like We Never Had A Broken Heart. You cannot do that quickly with no computer. However you cannot do that with the limited computer ability of a cavs either.

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Never had one complaint about the Jukebox lagging, it is what they call synced in real time, at least the U-Best Media ones, those are the only ones I have ever used. That might have something to do with the CAVS product, I remember the few times I used the 203 it was fine for the formatted discs (SGDG's), other discs played on it had a lag time problem.

I use KJ pro for my books there is manu identification space and all songs in the book have a manu I.D. like DK, no problem.

I never said anything of the sort, but nice try. Both a PC and your magic box are computers. One is just crippled so it can't do anything else.

And KJ Pro is going away.....

-Chris

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I don't think that will matter much Chris since I'm not going to be making anymore books from now until October.

Using the expression "real computer" indicates to me you don't feel the jukebox is a real computer, despite what you indicated before. Contrast it with your "of course it's a real computer" statement from above.

Can you change the software on your magic box if another company makes a better app? Can you run a Karaoke file renamer program? Can you run your book creation software? Can you play videos? Can you search iCroons for music? Can you buy downloads with it at a show? Can you re-purpose this box to do ANYTHING else when you quit karaoke?

Nope. I would say "real computer" doesnt apply here.

Then of course it's not a "real computer" is it? Like I maintained in the first place, it being more disc based than a computer based.

Those jukes are real computers (just like a calculator, a gaming system, a or anything else that has a processor). But they are limited to the task they are programmed to do only. Just because you cannot do anything other than what they are intended does not mean they aren't a computer. But the cavs 203 is not technically a jukebox type system unless you get and load the optional hard drive to load and store the music on the system. The scdg doesn't count as 'self contained media'. It's still a disc you have to load and unload when done.
Useless tidbit. Most hand held calculators today have more computer processing power in them than the original computers that were in the space capsules and space shuttles of the 50's-70's.

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You maybe right Lonnie I think of it being disc based, however, since it plays discs and stores discs that is really it's primary function, almost it's sole function.

Yet some, like StingRay\Karaoke Channel, use the same type warning but this time they really mean it..

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Whether you have it in writing or not, venues that pay their ASCAP/BMI/SESAC fees render the public performances of that material "authorized."




Yeah, James, address that. If that is the case, then how can Karaoke Channel get away with suing people for using their products in public? You told me, yourself, that if one of your inspectors saw KC material being played you would send that info off the them and the offending KJ would be sued.

BUT, if it a case where venue paying Pro fees renders the playing of that material authorized then I would become one of Karaoke Channel's best customers!!! That would also make PCDJ's songs authorized, and Karafun's songs. There would be no more question about U.K> music, either. So is this what you are telling us?


Please, I do not want this question answered by ANYONE other than James Harrington. Thank you.

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