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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 8:43 am 
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Paradigm Karaoke wrote:
here is an interresting funny....

Harrington Law, P.C.
12245 Nations Ford Road, Suite 506
Pineville, NC 28134

Sound Choice
12245 Nations Ford Road, Suite 505
Pineville, NC 28134

don't know what happened to
14100 South Lakes Dr


SC moved to different offices a year and a half ago. I sublease office space from SC, since it is my main (but not only) client.


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But it still don't mean it was ever because of manu offered mp3g's is what I was getting at. Most of what is available came from ripped discs originally. Maybe today mp3g downloads may be the case, but that isn't how it started!



It wasn't offering mp3s that did it. It was putting whole calague's worth in accessible cyberspace.

Btw, by hard media I don't neccesarily mean small sized media.

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Hard media won't stop piracy. It won't even dent it.

People take hand held video cameras and cell phones into movie theaters and record movies on the day of release.
DVD screeners - the versions supposedly sent only to critics and reviewers - are uploaded to Torrents before movies come out.
The 3rd or 4th Harry Potter book was scanned in by hand and uploaded to Torrents BEFORE it was released in print.
People were copying record albums to cassette tape essentially from day one (which is the tipping point for all modern digital piracy btw)

All modern entertainment from music, to movies, to TV, to books, to video games can be reproduced as 0's and 1's. The cat is out of the bag with the technology we have today.

And it won't get better......ever.

3D Printer technology is booming. In 10 years, home users will be able to produce things that used to take millions in capital expenditures for overseas factories and labor. Let your mind run wild.......All of you ODB hosts will be able to print the entire Sound Choice disc catalog - ON DISCS - that you print yourselves.

Technology is a one of the great enablers in that your everyday, common person can do things that were impossible without tons of money and resources. But it also makes it more difficult for certain industries to maintain control over original ideas and intellectual property.

The karaoke companies are NOT to blame for the piracy of their own material in any way, shape or form because technology has enabled those with ill intent to do it no matter what protections are put in place.

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By the way- going back to do's posts, Jim is WAY overdue on "the big announcement" -again. Just sayin'.........


We're testing the new website today. It will be ready to go live either later today or tomorrow, depending on whether it passes our tests, and we'll make our announcement then.



Dum, dum, dum...Another One Bites The Dust.......


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Waiting on one last test and approval on the credit card processing. Can't be helped. It will happen tomorrow.


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OK My final guess is that u will be able to buy individual songs in digital format. Mr Harrington do I get a prize if I'm right or maybe some free gift cards for digital downloads.


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Doesn't Select karaoke sell tracks in the U.S.A. as an international partner from a company that is overseas. Does anyone know. Thanks


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OK My final guess is that u will be able to buy individual songs in digital format. Mr Harrington do I get a prize if I'm right or maybe some free gift cards for digital downloads.



You are probably right, but I hope -at best - it will not be downloaded, but rather on some (large?) Protected hard media like a drive unit.

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Doesn't Select karaoke sell tracks in the U.S.A. as an international partner from a company that is overseas. Does anyone know. Thanks


Selectkaraoke is merely a "skin" on the Tricera site that resembles the Selectatrack site. Content is the same as the other TS sites.

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OK My final guess is that u will be able to buy individual songs in digital format. Mr Harrington do I get a prize if I'm right or maybe some free gift cards for digital downloads.


Not a chance. SC doesn't have the rights to sell digital downloads. They only had the rights to produce discs and even that license is no longer valid.

My guess is that some Gem discs are going to suddenly/magically appear for sale. So maybe I can get the prize if I'm right :)


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I hope -at best - it will not be downloaded, but rather on some (large?) Protected hard media like a drive unit.


:lol: Wow, you must be joking. Right? Joe you really need to get over your fear/obsession with downloads. In case you haven't noticed, downloads are the industry standard for music distribution and aren't going away.

Besides. If you want a Large, Protected, Hard Media library from SC they already have one. That would be called GEM. :wink:


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Bazza wrote:
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I hope -at best - it will not be downloaded, but rather on some (large?) Protected hard media like a drive unit.


:lol: Wow, you must be joking. Right? Joe you really need to get over your fear/obsession with downloads. In case you haven't noticed, downloads are the industry standard for music distribution and aren't going away.

Besides. If you want a Large, Protected, Hard Media library from SC they already have one. That would be called GEM. :wink:


It absolutely boggles my mind that anyone (even a luddite!) would continue to suggest that physical media be the way to distribute content. The market place proves this to be true no matter what people want to believe.

I asked before - What karaoke manufacturers are even left that produce physical media? I don't mean custom discs either.

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Well, there's Disney and I think Daywind. I couldn't keep a show going on that, though.


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Bazza wrote:
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I hope -at best - it will not be downloaded, but rather on some (large?) Protected hard media like a drive unit.


:lol: Wow, you must be joking. Right? Joe you really need to get over your fear/obsession with downloads. In case you haven't noticed, downloads are the industry standard for music distribution and aren't going away.

Besides. If you want a Large, Protected, Hard Media library from SC they already have one. That would be called GEM. :wink:


How do you see GEM discs as protected? They play on anything and have no copyright imbedded copyright protection.

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I hope -at best - it will not be downloaded, but rather on some (large?) Protected hard media like a drive unit.


:lol: Wow, you must be joking. Right? Joe you really need to get over your fear/obsession with downloads. In case you haven't noticed, downloads are the industry standard for music distribution and aren't going away.

Besides. If you want a Large, Protected, Hard Media library from SC they already have one. That would be called GEM. :wink:


It absolutely boggles my mind that anyone (even a luddite!) would continue to suggest that physical media be the way to distribute content. The market place proves this to be true no matter what people want to believe.

I asked before - What karaoke manufacturers are even left that produce physical media? I don't mean custom discs either.

SyberSound / Party Tyme, Singers Solution (ick), and if you do the work, you can find brands still producing overseas and selling here. The UK is not the only exporter, and never was. One of the things that keeps me ahead of my competitors. There are quality brands out there that I have never seen mentioned here.

Just a matter of doing the research.

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How do you see GEM discs as protected? They play on anything and have no copyright imbedded copyright protection.

How can you have been told 1000 times that there is no such thing as copy protection, and then turn around and say something like this?

Then, when people point out the misinformation you spew, you call them a troll. The mind literally boggles.

Let's get this straight. 1) there is no "copyright imbedded copyright protection". And 2) You are the troll.

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A copy protection scheme does not have to be unbreakable, that is absolutely impossible. All it has to do, is make it so that it is easier to pay for material than it is to steal it.

As for what gives a gem series protection. MP3S can be traceable, so if you are the one who took a GEM series, and then put it online, they will be able to trace it back to your license.

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Waiting on one last test and approval on the credit card processing. Can't be helped. It will happen tomorrow.



Ummmm....STEEEEERIKE.....FOUR???


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JoeChartreuse wrote:
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I hope -at best - it will not be downloaded, but rather on some (large?) Protected hard media like a drive unit.


:lol: Wow, you must be joking. Right? Joe you really need to get over your fear/obsession with downloads. In case you haven't noticed, downloads are the industry standard for music distribution and aren't going away.

Besides. If you want a Large, Protected, Hard Media library from SC they already have one. That would be called GEM. :wink:


How do you see GEM discs as protected? They play on anything and have no copyright imbedded copyright protection.

it has more protection than any others so far. the mp3 is embedded with a "watermark" of sorts and if i remember correctly, doesn't the graphics portion also have a visible mark on it?

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JoeChartreuse wrote:
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I hope -at best - it will not be downloaded, but rather on some (large?) Protected hard media like a drive unit.


:lol: Wow, you must be joking. Right? Joe you really need to get over your fear/obsession with downloads. In case you haven't noticed, downloads are the industry standard for music distribution and aren't going away.

Besides. If you want a Large, Protected, Hard Media library from SC they already have one. That would be called GEM. :wink:


How do you see GEM discs as protected? They play on anything and have no copyright imbedded copyright protection.


They're not protected in the sense of there being something that physically prevents them from being stolen. That's impossible. If they can be used, they can be stolen.

They're protected because we know exactly who is supposed to have every single GEM disc in existence. If we encounter GEM tracks being played by someone who isn't supposed to have them, it's very easy for us to prove in court that the user stole the material.


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Waiting on one last test and approval on the credit card processing. Can't be helped. It will happen tomorrow.



Ummmm....STEEEEERIKE.....FOUR???


I'm as frustrated as you are, but I can't make this move any faster. We're still waiting on the credit card stuff.


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