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Weird Al does it, but it's not really ethical... wink wink

Proof that alien life does exist! Obviously this man is from another planet.

Bastiat you can't believe that you can take my original music and make it karaoke and then call it your own? Do you think that?

This is the problem with Karaoke on the other side of things.
Manufacturers use someone else's product and create something out of it like introducing a product like some kind of "License not to sue your (@$%&#!)" crap.

But the truth is these guys are brilliant... just in the wrong fashion. They take a billion dollar idea and market it the absolute wrong way.

It's nothing but a WIN, WIN WIN if the karaoke brands took their "License not to sue your (@$%&#!)" and exchanged it to "License to play our (@$%&#!)" they can make steady streams of income and grow the karaoke market... because:

1) We "the musicians" actually get paid for "OUR creations" ,
2) The KJ's make money for providing their professional services by playing and promoting "Our creations"
3) The Producers/Manufacturers make money on the licensing and "NOT the MUSIC".

Here's another truth:
MUSICIANS AND SONGWRITERS AND BANDS HATE KARAOKE!!!

Now there's a whole nother discussion in itself.

Only the ones who have an inferiority complex and the garage band's being replaced with Karaoke because it's cheaper for bars to pay for a karaoke host than a real band. Case in point, I had a messaging back and forth with Jonathan Cain of Journey about how Karaoke helps the fans learn their songs to be able to sing along at the concerts and not long after that Karaoke Version exploded with Journey songs, After All These Years, City Of Hope, Mother, Father and Paitiently to name a few. So not every artist hates Karaoke.
I sent a letter to the widow of Dan Fogelberg and told her how her husband's songs and legacy could live on through the Fan's ability to pay tribute to him by having his songs on Karaoke. I believe that was around the time that Dan's name came off the no fly list. At least I haven't seen it on recent lists and there has been some releases of new Fogelberg songs on Karaoke Version and karaoke.net.

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The Line Array Experiment is over. Nothing to see here. Move along.

How has SC repaid the loyalty of their customers? If anything they have made things more difficult for a host to run a show in public. That is why so many hosts have gone the private party route. There is more money to make and you don't have to worry about PEP. At the end of all of this SC actually took advantage of their loyal customers. Obtaining advance payments from hosts and never delivering the disc product that was promised. Are there really loyal SC customers out there? I just wonder. As I remember the president of MM was caught pressing discs without paying the proper fees. That is why MM went out of business, not pirates, they were pirates themselves, like so many other defunct manus.

Dude! those are words that only a shady KJ would say. Do you have something to hide sir... ? ? Dude you just exposed yourself!!! Hello... there's goes another one.

Pirates have no say... end of discussion...
Licensed KJ's have nothing to hide and support everyone in the business.

THIS cracked me up for HOURS!!

I'm new to this thread and i've learned....

KNF (Sue) is married to Vinnie. They DO speak a lot alike and seemingly DO NOT READ what others' actually post.

I simply cannot believe that Vinnie gave these bogus song-requests to PEP without R-E-A-D-I-N-G the titles! ...and more ensued that were "requested".....McFly! MCFLY!!!!

Earthling has always been my HERO on KS!

Nothing against Vinnie or "Sue" (btw i think they're the same person) because i do admire their Uber Optimism, but to think that PEP/SC would or could ever produce tracks again after Kurt personally claiming bankruptcy, PEP repeatedly losing court cases and being mocked by judges, their lead lawyer quitting, SC formerly being sued for illegal activity, no formal facilities to produce new tracks, failing to get enough monetary support to make new tracks a couple of years ago, and the advent of NEW successful karaoke companies who understand the technological needs of karaoke hosts today...

Right there's more than a few reasons why i would never support, believe, or trust SC/PEP/SLEP/ or newest incarnation there-of ever again. Their former products were excellent, but so were Radio Shacks'.

Dude, you couldn't be more wrong about Lone Ranger. He is totally disc based and doesn't even use Sound Choice products. And wrong. While certified KJs have nothing to hide, they don't support each and every KJ in the business. I for one do not support anyone who has a loaded hard drive and will not support those who use You Tube Karaoke or any other means to cheat the system and make a legal KJs pay lower because they don't have the overhead to pay for legitimate hosts do. That includes idiots who think that the home subscription to KaraFun can be used by a so called professional Karaoke Host. In fact I will gladly try to take their shows away from them. Anyone who can prove that they have discs or receipts showing purchase of downloads or professional streaming subscriptions I will leave alone. But pirates and unprofessionals are fair game in my eyes.

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The Line Array Experiment is over. Nothing to see here. Move along.

He' trollin'.

OK He got me on this!!!

I removed the submissions from Sound Choice submissions.

On a positive note: Congrats to Bruno Mars for winning the Song of the year and is up for R&B Album of the year.

Just like all the videos Chip submitted, those also nothing but sarcasm. He couldn't care less if they put out another track or not, he doesnt use nor will use a SC track ever.
You also say you were here before, under what name did you post here under then??

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I forgot the name I used but I provided a ton of tech support/ marketing for Frank Crowders software including Design/development and Distribution of DJPro Karaoke player.

Lonnie between you & I let's cut that crap about any kj's "Not" using SC tracks at their shows. Trust me on this. My wife & I attend many shows, many in US with 99% kj's have and use them.

I said this before and I'll say it to you directly. 99% (Ninety Nine Percent) including Licensed and non-Licensed kj's. I would not use a high percentage like this if I only attended just a couple of shows.

I'm not a karaoke police but I firmly believe in supporting companies that are still in business just like you stand up for karaoke.net, I have to show support for my favorite company.

God, it must be moody sunday today, smile everyone... smile...

Hey now...i know i'm not the sharpest tool in the shed but because lack of many responses to those funny song "requests", i thought maybe a few people may have missed the harmless HUMOR and the WIT and INTELLIGENCE Earthling always displays.

Vinnie, he didn't embarrass you. You kinda missed the humor and harmless sarcasm in it because you were TOO BUSY responding instead of listening to reply.

I believe you skim over other peoples' posts and don't try to comprehend them or where they're coming from...

And if you've been on this forum for so long, then you KNOW it's downright STOOPID to call someone phallic names because it will get you BANNED.

Mama always told me... "You got 2 ears and 1 mouth...so listen twice as much as you talk and you might learn somethin'! "

Besides, Earthling is a respected member in this forum and you should apologize for the name calling.

I'll admit, He got me... & I'm Sorry... bricken brackin... bricken brackin!!!

Well there cousinvinnie ... in the first place it's highly unlikely that I would ever have any interest in taking your "original" song and "make it karaoke", whatever that's supposed to mean. Most karaoke labels/producers create sound-a-like recordings of musical compositions which is usually the most popular recorded version of that composition.

Secondly, the sound-a-like recording, or any recording of any arrangement of that composition is the sole property of the company that produced the sound recording.

Thirdly, in the United States we have a provision in Section 115 of the copyright code referred to as the "compulsory" provision whereby I can record your original song, and that recording becomes MY intellectual property and there isn't a damn thing you can do about it. If you were a real musician you would know these things, but obviously you're talking through the wrong orifice, and you don't need anyone else to embarrass you as you're doing a pretty good job of that all by yourself.

Finally, most real musicians that I know have nothing at all against karaoke. The only "musicians" that I've ever ran into who hate karaoke are those who feel threatened by it, which means that there's a high probability that they suck as musicians to begin with. I was a professional musician for 20 years or so before I got into making karaoke recordings, and for which I OWN the copyrights to nearly 7,000 of those recordings of mostly other people's music. The hundreds of musicians and singers that I hired over the course of 20 years were quite happy with the opportunities that karaoke had given them to supplement and in some cases greatly supplement their income as musicians and singers.

You really should learn a little about the industry you claim to be a part of before you spout off about things you obviously know absolutely nothing about.

Just remember one thing so everyone is clear. I am the smarter one. wink! (Yes she's asleep and not reading any of this... Sorry Sue... If you read this... It was Johnreynolds... Johnreynolds made me type this.)

You make karaoke songs? and what about the "under authority of the copyright owner" is that why most of the karaoke labels got shut down because of this Interpretation...?? Hey everyone makes mistakes Look at how many interpretations of bible verses that are executed the wrong way.

Let me explain it to you the easier way my friend... My stuff goes out on the market, you make my stuff karaoke because I gave you the authorization (The go ahead), then you distribute it the way you like and give me some yum yum in return. Dude! this is standard. You still own (@$%&#!). So basically it takes approx 5 minutes to remaster a track and make a karaoke song (Times 7000) ya you wasted that time cuz you don't own any of it. In fact I can request those tracks to be removed from the MUSIC world system and you are the guy who loses out.

On a positive note: Bruno Mars just won the R&B Album of the year along with his award for Song of the year.

Out of personal and professional respect i didn't quote your un-edited response.

Way to MAN- UP and apologize

Well it's good to know Sue actually sleeps. She's always so high-energy!

In the first place I'm not your friend. Yes I made karaoke songs. You might recognize them under the Pop Hits Monthly, Top Hits Monthly, Sing It Now, Rising Star, UKKaraoke, American Gold and a few other labels all owned by Stellar Records. You are totally clueless as to how music licensing works so please don't try to b.s. your way through this.

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