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I met thunder when I went down to Charlotte to get my audit done. He and Virgin are two different guys.

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The Line Array Experiment is over. Nothing to see here. Move along.

If I want you to know I'll tell you. Where are yours? I'd love to come to your show and see if you know how to push a button and click a mouse.

Where are you, there is no way for me to tell, although I don't worry about where the most horrible shows are anyway. Who are you? You know my name what are you afraid of? The majority of people going to my website are trolls and lower life trying to undercut an established gig, but Big Jim has never been able to take a show from me for even offering $100 a night just to get in the door. Never heard of shaner and the others mentioned run some ancient style old folkes karaoke with more static and dead air than I can deal with.

Go on and have your fun, the only people here with negative comments obviously are not educated enough for me to exchange an inteligent thought with. I have plenty of shows and they are the best in town IMHO. I have seen so many lame shows usually I try to forget them asap.

I have not slandered anyone, truth is the truth. When the kj has 4 cd books and he thumbs through them I can tell what brands they are. There was no way he bought every SC song over night! Plus they wouldn't fit in 4-100cd cases now would they.

I don't need to defend what I have done or why, it's my decision as is what disks I chose to purchase. I have no need to ever buy another SC CB PHM disk as I have plenty and my updates are my concern but be assured I am more up to date than most.

I will continue to put on great shows that are a mix of a REAL DJ and karaoke. Instead of running your mouth run your show half as good as I do and you may get all the hi-fives I get every night. I am not talking about the old folkes home either!

You hard core Karaoke guys are too full of yourselves, love drama and sound more like a bunch of 15 year old high schools girls pointing fingers and doing your best to get your friends in trouble. There is not one KJ or dj in th USA with just a little something in their closet so when taking a shot at me take a look at the MIRROR. I am ashamed to be amongst a sad sad group of over the hill loosers.

wow, sound choice really did upset that guy

and apparently so did some of the people here.

although this has been insightful, as someone new to this business, I didn't realize that both male and female KJ's had "times of the month"

Not only SC, but CB and PHM also. But as I've said, you can tell a Heinz pickle but you can't tell them much.

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I like that but it is so true!

? I Don't know you but apparently you know the Thunder guy and Spankme. Are you in their area?

Hello Nigel ,

Allow me to introduce myself. I run a large Sound and lighting Production company in Richmond and also we happen to have a couple Karaoke gigs because we enjoy them. I am also a DJ and happen to work with some of the top DJ's in the City of richmond..Ever Heard of Dj Ghozt, Waldo , Tech, or Tony T? Those are the guys that work gigs for me and are my friends. Ever been to the hottest club in town, Offthehooka? That is where my guys DJ weekly. I would like you to stop by a show so we can chat, shouldn't be hard for you to find me, I am one of those " Shaner Boys " Moon referred to. I have no ill will towards you, and have never met you. You haven't developed a great reputation locally,i think due to these absurd posts.

This business is about having fun, and you've lost complete sight of that and are letting this anger at Sound Choice Consume you. I take offense to the comment that Karaoke hosts aren't DJ's , I happen to be a DJ that runs Karaoke so you'd be hard pressed to use that statement at our shows. And " OLD PERSON KARAOKE? " What a laugh, you really don't know who we are. We are all in our 20's , we're a production company and we only use EV gear. For Live Sound we have Phoenix rigs, for Karaoke we have Tour X rigs. We DJ top 40 at our shows and run 4000 watt dual 18's. Some Old Person show huh? We are the show all of the other karaoke hosts come to hang out and sing because they like the quality of our system. Come on out on a Friday night and introduce yourself , first drinks on me, i'll listen , treat ya fair, but i'd like to hear from your mouth what exactly you've got going on. I consider most of the hosts in Richmond friends, i feel we can all learn from each other and i'll treat you no differently. We have some things in common...you like to VJ which i do a lot of at the High School and College Events we DJ, and you apparently have some karaoke shows locally although we have VERY different views of karaoke, I have a feeling we'd get along if you could let this hatred of the Karaoke industry go. Just my 2 cents but i doubt you'd disagree you've let it consume you. I've met Kurt of Sound Choice, as well as Debbi and Norbert of Chartbuster and they aren't the evil people you make them out to be, just seems to me you rubbed them the wrong way. I've also attended one of Thunders shows, which was not anything like you described. It was a great setup and we had a lot of fun, and you yourself at one time attended, you are again taking something out on someone for personal reasons. It is the lowest of lows bashing someones show like you have all over the internet, i will tell you that you'll gain no respect from me for that.

I would just like to offer a possible explanation as to why someone might have unopened copies of the foundation sets. Some people have purchased multiple copies of discs because they run multiple shows on the same evening and bought multiple sets of discs in an effort to be "legal" in the eyes of Sound Choice and other manufacturers. If I had FOUR complete sets of discs because my company ran FOUR separate shows on Friday nights; why would I open up ALL FOUR sets of discs when it came time to rip them to a hard drive for ease of use? I would rip ONE set of discs and leave the other THREE sets of discs unopened in case I ever wanted to sell them. After ripping ONE set of discs to a hard drive; I would then just clone that hard drive THREE times so I would have a complete set of MY LEGALLY purchased tracks to run my shows with. Does Sound Choice expect a KJ to open up every disc and rip each song FOUR separate times????

LET'S GET REAL PEOPLE.

Thank you Brucefan for showing these guys some intelect, Cheers to you.



You drove all the way to Charlottesville to see a karaoke show, you are a fan.

I want to formally appologize to all of you for ranting and raving, I will admit to letting some comments get out of hand. I am not the evil person you may think, just a pissed of DJ upset about being wrongfully accused, how would you feel? I already offered to show my disks two years ago.

I do have some penned up anger towards SC for other than reasons I've mentioned. Although there are many facts which a majority of KJ's (not ones that have bowed down to sc)and I agree with like; Laws in place to protect DJ's from swindling manus hoping to squeez an extra buck out of you years after purchasing a professional compilation targeted towards the working professional, called FAIR USE LAW. In this it states nowhere that ten years after purchasing a disk that you have to drive to Charlotte NC and prove you still have the disk. In my case I have brought all my disks to every show before the first time I played to prove to the club that I own what I play. Now as far as giving them my system for fourty hours and letting someone itemize every entry on my personal computer that's different. If you come to a gig of mine, I play a SC song and you ask if I can produce that disk I'll do it! Shut the front door! I have never advertised that I have more SC or any other disks for that matter than I personally own. That said, SC has slandered me to no extent, has cost me fair income, has made my collection of karaoke disks value decrease as a result. The only reason I bought them was to get a return from them. CB and PHM have no quarrel with me because I have talked to them and they know what I do and don't have generally and my reason for not continuing to buy from them "at this point" is merely the bottom line. I had to decide who I was going to buy my latest updates from and they didn't meet the price point although I do have all the updates for PHM and CB through Dec2010 and I will buy CB 100 packs each year. I will say that I love CB for there awesome country versions and PHM for some awesome pop and rock. As far as SC they are done and what I have of theres is of value to me only when it's a song I don't have on another brand "PERIOD" that said my collection of SC has lost it's value and with unknown business practices by SC in the future the bottom could fall out if they decide to cut throat the market with their Gem series. DK use to cost me $30 a disk and when they went out of business you could buy them for penny's on the dollar, now they are sought after and fetch $5-15ea but every DK song can be purchased on SCDG for $120 so the value of the original DK disks are collector value only! SGB were $22.99 when I was buying them and now they are less than a buck each SCDG all tracks for $30, so on a so forth. As long as SC can linger around selling fear they will continue doing so. I will state unequivocally that I am against Piracy, I don't know the right way to handle it but I think SC's way is not the smart way. Everyone of you who have either paid or were left out of the dragnet, side with them 'cause it doesn't effect you. You tote the flag for a non existant homeland. Good for you, I applaud you in helping to stop the sell of loaded hard drives on craigslist, I think that's the best we can do for now beside having club owners ask to see your disks and be more on the honor system than the THIRD RICH. As I still see it we live in a free country where you have the right to express yourself, the right to fight tyranny and until it becomes a federal matter play the disks you own without having Sound Choice tell you "we didn't authorize you to play our music"! Not to mention let me see your hard drive! SC stole music from big music companies for years, after getting speared they have come after us. Not an excuse for piracy or a witch hunt where anyone you accuse is guilty until proven innocent. If you support what SC has done you do not support what our founding fathers built America on, Democracy and Freedom, Remember that when there is none left to be had because of people like you who sell out the constitution every day!

You mentioned thunder, Seriously? Must be some other thunder around! My gripe with him comes from stumbling across a forum where he had been bashing me for months before I caught a glimpse, he accused me of not owning a single disk and coppying an exact duplicate to my other system, really. He had no idea obviously that I was ever going to see it or he wouldn't have stuck his neck out like that and calling places of my employ and threatening legal action if they didn't fire me, that was when I broke my silence. Back in the day my one big mistake was to let Steve copy a brand new disk I had just bought that had a song I wanted to sing on it, he didn't have. So of course he has run the course with that one. He has floundered at several gigs that have called me to take over so he is sour grapes. Now much time has passed and he has had plenty of time to build a solid collection of SC disks but what I said before is the truth at that time. What he has is none of my business in turn mine is to him and you. If I decide to brandish my collection it is my decision. If a club asks that I show my disks before I can work there, it's how I roll.

As a DJ back then everyone would share a little something and even Promo Only will tell you today they don't care if you share some music with another DJ, not your hard drive,(no dj I know is stupid enough to not have an extensive collection of original disks, not to say there aren't plenty out there making money off hijacked HDD's) a few songs, as the music is promotional anyway and the more it is played the more records sell to the public, there are millions of public and few DJ's. When you turn your radio on your hear music for free as promotion to get you to buy the hard copy. Radio stations don't pay for disks but they pay when they play a song, a very small fee. In turn many record companies let karaoke manus produce their rip-off for no charge what so ever in hopes of promotion. This is why SC had so many songs on disks you had never heard of,(I have SC9016 in front of me right now see if you can recognize any of these songs; About you now-Sugarbabes, All around me-Flyleaf, Big casino- Jimmy eat world, Her Eyes-Pat Monaghan etc) they were free. When they did pay the fees were very minimal, often as low as $100 and not usually more than $500 because then the karaoke company would refuse or do like SC and produce the song anyway especially if they had already produced the song before asking permission.
Karaoke on the other hand sell to a select professionl for hire group, general public don't usually purchase expensive karaoke disks, they go to best buy/Walmart and get it there. Back in the day Karaoke manus would make there own versions of popular songs without even asking permission and sell them for $26.95 a pop to me. According to a reliable source the Eagles SC8125 disk, even if you have the original in your hand is not legal to be played in public, therefore SC sold an unusable item to working professionals. SC covered there asses by pasting on every CD; Warning: blah blah blah unauthorized public performance is a violation. I remember seeing inserts stating you cannot copy SC to your hard drive without permission! How's that working out for you? Fair Use Law! I don't need permission even if it says so on the disk. It's like saying you can buy this new CD but only you and your kids can listen to it without additional permissions. SC through June 2009, CB, PHM are clearly the pennicle of the karaoke industry in the USA. According to my sources CB and PHM are not going to strong arm anyone and as long as you have 95% accuracy on your HDD you are safe from further action. I know all you sainted ones who stand on the hill next to Moses will have something to say about this so if you are one of the special people who have SC contracts just skip this. BTW just because you have a deal with them doesn't make you any better than anyone else, you just paid more to brag, boast and belittle. I hate to say it but it does seem as though KJ's on forums bash others because they paid for the right to. And you know what you can do with that Pickle?

I have no intentions of malice towards anyone, I got in this business because I attended so many horrible shows where namely the sound was so bad I couldn't even stay more than five minutes with ringing ears. The vocals were nothing but distortion and people running it could barely run a clock radio not to mention a pro rig. Karaoke had a bad reputation for being a nightmare and has improved very little in the past several years.

I use QSC(mains) EV(mains, Mics and subs) Mackie(subs) I have Tour-x 2152's as well for bigger shows. I use DBX,BBE and Monster, compression, equalization, sonic maximizer and stage two power conditioners.

I will come to the Hooka tonight and bring as many SC disks as I can carry in two hands. Please all the big mouths come and gawk. 700 in two cases.

I too have many KJ friends usually the pathetic ones don't like me because I shoot from the hip, it's the american way. If you smell like doo-doo I am not afraid to tell you so. My biggest complaints at karaoke are distorted, hollow vocals and piercing unequalized mids.

Again I want to formally appologize to all of you for ranting, raving and entertaining you without karaoke playing in the background. Have a Blessed day, I will pray for you

If that was so, you should have let him tell us that. Now we know that's the reason!

Nickel and Joe won't be around long. They add nothing of value to this forum, just entertainment value from the standpoint of wondering how low they will stoop with their namecalling. In fact, I would heavily guess they are one and the same.

The little digs at making karaoke sound stupid and small. Don't like it, don't host, don't sing, don't attend.

Anybody that constantly slams the manus for wanting to go after the pirates just don't get it. Whether they are going about it the best way or not, something has to be done or we will all be out of business. Can't work for $50 a show and that's how it will end up as we don't have 150,000 songs! Karaoke is entertainment, it's fun for the people who like to go so it does have it's important worth in the state of things.

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KingBing Entertainment C'mon Up! I have a song for you!!! [font=MS Sans Serif][/font]

Don't let your mind wander, it's far too small to be let out on its own.

Actually, I ran the Audio and video production for the ACCS conference at the Double Tree Hotel in Charlotessville last year and we decided to go out and see what Charlottesville nightlife had to offer. It just happened to be Thunders show we went to and had a great time. I don't remember the name of the place but it was an irish pub. I had never met him, and have only seen his show once, but i only speak honestly and we had a great time with no complaints.

As far as OfftheHooka tonight, my guys will be Dj'ing both the upstairs and downstairs levels but i will actually be running Karaoke at Plaza Tapatia ( formerly Nacho Mama's ) in Mechanicsville from 10-2, feel free to stop by. But honestly you don't need to prove anything to me with your discs, i just want these rants online to stop. You can bring your discs if you'd like but i'm not accusing you of anything. You're welcome to come by if you'd like , have a drink, and we can step outside and talk. Or, if you do go to OfftheHooka it's a lot of fun also , and it'll just be Dj's spinning which it sounds like you enjoy more than Karaoke anyways.

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I will try to make it out there, a bit of a ride for me. I am going to just leave this whole banter alone, it is counter productive and just gets me more upset when people make these idiotic comments like some backwood nightmare from 1865, when people didn't know what to call their feet (hay foot, straw foot) now that's illiterate. I don't really care about thunder and I am glad you had a great time at Mcgrady's I have been there too many times back when it was Sharky's. I am totally ready to bury the hatchet on that one. I just want to go do my job and if I suck at that then call me to the carpet, I will make a change, don't speculate about my library, in fact my books ar no where near as big as nard's or jim's and I probably have $20,000 tied up in disks, I have been buying and selling for awhile but need to start selling more and get away from KJ totally, it's so much more work than DJ'ing. Drunks pulling on your arm all night, dropping mics and breaking cords a stands.... I have done it because it has been so much fun for a long time but this whole SC thing has just left me sickend and people like moonr, dannyg and athena prove there is no hope for IQ's in here.

To Thunder, I am sorry I snapped back and I am truly sorry, everyone has a bad show once in awhile, maybe I was having a bad day. You will never hear anything more about it. So lets stop this nonsense and be adults.

The good old days of karaoke being a big party are going away, between the popo and just plain lack of interest it's fading away, cash out while you can.

I never looked at it that way I was under the impression that you had to actually be 1:1 with your library so whatever was on your hard drive had to actually be from the disc you are using for that system. I never considered the fact that I could just copy from one drive to the other and never open the disc I have for the second system.

I guess my question on this is what would an auditor say when you have two or more systems laid out and you have all of these unopened disc and he wants to see the disc for song SC7521-14 in system two, three, four and five, do you just show him the same disc from system one five times or will you have to start opening up all those brand new disc packs?

Karma works on everybody Nigel.....And I've never been to Iran...it is a long way from Florida

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I don't want you to go out of your way Nigel, but i'll tell ya what, in the future come on out sometime i'll buy ya a drink. I'm sorry you've been burned by Karaoke but i truly believe it can still be a lot of fun. I don't have the largest karaoke collection in town by far but i honestly don't feel that is what's important about Karaoke. Just try to have fun with it, maybe you need to step away from it for a lil while and then come back ( 4 years ago i stopped Karaoke for a year because i had honestly gotten tired of it, And then i came back and i've been loving it again ever since ). You may just need a little break and then you'll be ready to jump back into it. I don't believe it's dying out, but we will see.

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The kid of justice you practice is straight out of the third world. Where I live you are innocent until proven guilty. Not guilty because someone who envy's you said so!

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PRO CHARTBUSTER, POP HITS MONTHLY, ANTI COMMUNIST AND SOUND CHOICE! ONCE YOU BUY A PAIR OF PANTS LEVI'S DOESN'T COME BACK 3 MONTHS LATER WANTING MORE MONEY BECAUSE YOU'RE STILL WEARING THEM TO WORK!

I dont envy you Nigel.....I pity you

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"if a man has integrity, nothing else matters, If a man has no integrity, nothing else matters."
Lee McGuffey

Loneavenger, I didn't catch your name. I will do my damndest to get there tonight with my fiancee, she hates karaoke but I will try to get her to hang out some and maybe get a few friends to join us.

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PRO CHARTBUSTER, POP HITS MONTHLY, ANTI COMMUNIST AND SOUND CHOICE! ONCE YOU BUY A PAIR OF PANTS LEVI'S DOESN'T COME BACK 3 MONTHS LATER WANTING MORE MONEY BECAUSE YOU'RE STILL WEARING THEM TO WORK!

No, but if you make a copy of their jeans they sure will.

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