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JoeChartreuse
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:07 am |
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[quote="JoeChartreuse wrote: Also, the word "pirate" is continually used for those that SC names, which is simply incorrect. Unless someone prosecutes these folks ( or simply sues them) for piracy, AND they are found guilty, they aren't pirates. I am unaware of this ever happening in ANY of the KJ suits. They are simply- again, if found guilty, unauthorized media shifters at the very worst.
--------------------------------------------------------- Harrington Law......But the last part isn't exactly right. The wide majority of the people we sue are not "media-shifters" at all. That is, they aren't "shifting" anything, or if they are, it's very little. They're acquiring it pre-shifted. .[/quote] --------------------------------------------------------- You may express that as an opinion, but since that is not what you are suing for, thus not EVER being proven in court that I know of, it is unproven, and would therefore be slanderous/libelous of those hosts accused of the same. If it were me, I would limit myself to the use of "unauthorized media shift" for both accuracy and liability purposes. This would also help reduce the repercussions of SC's actions in regard to 1:1 hosts, and those falsely accused such as disc based hosts.
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Smoothedge69
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:14 am |
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timberlea wrote: There's a huge difference between Sony, Warner, and other huge record labels that have billions in assets to a small businesses like SC and CB. The former have vast resources. It took them years and millions of dollars and they still haven't been able to stop piracy. The best that SC CB, et al can do is recoup some of their losses. That my friend is reality. Recoup their losses, then dumping them back into more lawsuits. Harrington is getting filthy rich, and SC is still languishing. What sense does that make?? And as they are playing with courts and filings the pirates are getting more numerous by the day. Look, it was my intention to go that route until you people talked me out of it. Not everyone is like me and will go on a website for info or will read the links on a manu's site. Had I not done any of those things, I would not have known, and I would have gone ahead with my original plan. I thank you all for setting me straight, but the problem still exists, and will not get better just with lawsuits. It doesn't seem that the education process is working, because the bars are still hiring these people. There are even stores around here that sell custom CDGs. You tell them what songs you want they make the disks for you. These companies aren't doing a very good job canvasing the smaller towns. It's nice that you are hitting the major cities, but I think your worse problems are happening in regular areas.
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JimHarrington
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:21 am |
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Smoothedge69 wrote: Harrington is getting filthy rich You have a VERY active imagination.
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Smoothedge69
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:44 am |
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HarringtonLaw wrote: Smoothedge69 wrote: Harrington is getting filthy rich You have a VERY active imagination. So you are doing this noble work Pro Bono? Lawyer fees are staggering, especially for mass amounts of cases. Nobody on this for4um can be that naive that they do not know you are making a killing doing this work. But, that does not concern me. Were I you, I would turn to higher purpose, and work harder toward bringing to an end the piracy, which rots away Mr. Slep's business. Until that happens, your cause is worthless, your efforts useless, and Mr. Slep's money wasted.
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JimHarrington
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:55 am |
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Smoothedge69 wrote: HarringtonLaw wrote: Smoothedge69 wrote: Harrington is getting filthy rich You have a VERY active imagination. So you are doing this noble work Pro Bono? Lawyer fees are staggering, especially for mass amounts of cases. Nobody on this for4um can be that naive that they do not know you are making a killing doing this work. But, that does not concern me. Were I you, I would turn to higher purpose, and work harder toward bringing to an end the piracy, which rots away Mr. Slep's business. Until that happens, your cause is worthless, your efforts useless, and Mr. Slep's money wasted. No one, and I mean that literally, would consider the amount of money I made last year to be anything close to getting rich, filthy or otherwise. Do you really think that he is so naive or stupid that he would persist in a situation where I was getting rich and he was going bankrupt? (On second thought, I should have ended that question after four words instead.) For most people, what hurts them isn't what they don't know. What hurts them are the things of which they are absolutely certain, but which simply aren't so.
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timberlea
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 9:55 am |
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It's easy to tell who hasn't owned or understand business. They think the sales or the fee goes directly into the owner's pockrt. What they fail to realize is out of that money the owner has to pay staff, lease/mortgage for the building or office, utilities, office furniture and supplies, professional fees, not to mention pay for their home, food, clothing, etc, etc, etc, and let's not forget most professionals have student loans to repay. All of a sudden the $100 or $500/hr doesn't sound like much. BTW the 500 would be for very senior lawyers. You don't get that right out of law school.
Of course you have the freedom to go to law school for 7 years and do the same thing. This goes for pretty well every profession.
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Lisah
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:28 am |
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timberlea wrote: It's easy to tell who hasn't owned or understand business. They think the sales or the fee goes directly into the owner's pockrt. What they fail to realize is out of that money the owner has to pay staff, lease/mortgage for the building or office, utilities, office furniture and supplies, professional fees, not to mention pay for their home, food, clothing, etc, etc, etc, and let's not forget most professionals have student loans to repay. All of a sudden the $100 or $500/hr doesn't sound like much. BTW the 500 would be for very senior lawyers. You don't get that right out of law school.
Of course you have the freedom to go to law school for 7 years and do the same thing. This goes for pretty well every profession. Isn't that the truth! When customers call wanting to know how much it will be for us to DJ their wedding, they are often shocked at the $125 per hour rate. Until they call around! They don't figure in that frequently we are the 'coordinator' of their wedding (yuck), we don't charge for set up or tear down time. AND we've set up at some pretty hard-to-get-to places, running electrical cords for 100 yards or more! The consultation time is free. The background work is free. If all that were considered in.. the price ends up to be closer to $200 for a 4 hour gig. THEN take out fuel to get there and back, wear and tear on equipment, taxes (bunches of taxes!), insurance.. list goes on and on. As for a lawyer..... ew... the schooling alone would take a decade to pay for! Then they have lots and lots of background work! I'd rather setup a gig in bum-F-egypt than to pour over books and such just to find out the CORRECT answer to one stupid question! My job is much more fun.. which is why I'm not a lawyer!! To each, their own though
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Second City Song
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:29 am |
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timberlea wrote: Of course you have the freedom to go to law school for 7 years and do the same thing.
Sounds like Smooth needs some education.
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