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That's not fully true. I can give you an iron clad guarantee that I will NEVER throw a meteorite at you from the top of a ladder.

Actually, it is the fact that soundchoice has decided to sue people for using computers that would indicate the use of a computer could lead to legal problems from soundchoice, not any decisions by any court (because there are none against a KJ who owns the tracks he plays).

Much like the covenant not to sue, it's a one-sided offer with no teeth and leaves the KJ in the exact same position as prior to the offer.
In both situations (ironclad guarantee, covenant not to sue) Soundchoice can still sue if they want to sue without any consequences to Soundchoice.

What about from the next to last step from the top of that ladder?

They don't purposely sue disc based users. If they saw a computer being used, that is where I could see the mistake being as one could not tell unless they are up there watching your every step that you are playing from discs or the computer - which I think was what happened to Rodney, he uses a computer for other things BUT karaoke.

in a situation like this where the song list is at a reasonable size, would it not be better to err on the side of caution and not sue? if the situation was 100,000 tracks, sure. but a situation like his seems to be only a media shift issue, which cost SC absolutely nothing, and not worth the trouble of court and the pr issues.

There is no 'guarantee' in life in general. Might they sue you by mistake - sure, who knows, they may name you in a suit mistakenly even never playing a SC disc.
COuld you be sued from someone because your microphone shocked them - sure.
Could you be sued from someone because a song you sang created so much controversy that they cause them to have a heart attack.
Can you guarantee me that i'm not going to get hit by a falling meteroite? No, you cannot put a 100% guarantee on ANYTHING!!! It would be unrealistic to think you can.
They don't purposely sue disc based users. If they saw a computer being used, that is where I could see the mistake being as one could not tell unless they are up there watching your every step that you are playing from discs or the computer - which I think was what happened to Rodney, he uses a computer for other things BUT karaoke.

Lonman,
....This is what concerns me. I do have my actual hardware CDG Player which I wanted to eliminate from setting up (will still carry but only as back-up) since I was planning on playing my other (media-shifted karaoke library) from a software player that would play both Karaoke Files and Cdg's (For My Sound Choice Cdg's and any Singer's Legal Cdg).
....It does concern me that I would be suspicious in the eyes of an investigator and named in a lawsuit. And I know, the easiest thing to do, before anyone reminds me, would just be to drop the Sound Choice Brand. But for me, it's hard to do, they were one of the major players in my Karaoke Upbringing (back in the day). However, what I would loose in Sound Choice I probably have in other brands. It's somewhere around 4800 tracks (give or take).

....I hear ya. I don't know but Mr. Harrington might have to find the answer. I thought I read, in another thread, that someone had already posted that question and received the answer that it was approved to do so. There is software programs that will play CDG's. I was about to pull the trigger on one (purchase). The other one I have doesn't play them.

WHATEVER!!!!

I can read!

From the consent:

CONCLUSIONS OF LAW

4. As a matter of law, the elements of both trademark
infringement and federal unfair competition under § 43(a) of the
Lanham Act, 15 U.S.C. § 1125(a), are identical.

5. Leimone’s activities constitute trademark infringement
and federal unfair competition.

Comprehending "CONCLUSIONS OF LAW" is not dificult! Does the word "Law" & "Conclusion" not mean anything?????

Why are some on this forum so nit-picky?

What you are doing here is pretending that the judge decided to hold his own personal trial of this case in spite of the fact that the parties to the case came to an agreement. And then you are taking bits of the decree out of context in an effort to support your own mistaken conclusions.

Here is the context you are missing:


"The court finds that Slep-Tone and Leimone have reached agreement upon the operative facts and law "

The findings of fact were submitted by the Plaintiff and the Defendant, not the judge.

"The court finds that Slep-Tone and Leimone have reached agreement upon the operative facts and law "

The conclusions of law were submitted by the Plaintiff and the Defendant, not the judge.

"Accordingly, in view of the foregoing,"
Here is the context of the foregoing:


Every bit of this consent decree was authored by the Plaintiff and the Defendant, not the judge.

The only thing that was confirmed as valid was the agreement of the two parties as it pertains to those two parties.

Why are some on this forum so nit-picky?

....Siglos and.....will have to google. Forgot

...Just looked up and remembered calling/asking them last week. They told me "Not currently but it has been suggested by others and might be added in their future updates." So, no cdg player currently now on Compuhost.

There is no 'guarantee' in life in general. Might they sue you by mistake - sure, who knows, they may name you in a suit mistakenly even never playing a SC disc.
COuld you be sued from someone because your microphone shocked them - sure.
Could you be sued from someone because a song you sang created so much controversy that they cause them to have a heart attack.
Can you guarantee me that i'm not going to get hit by a falling meteroite? No, you cannot put a 100% guarantee on ANYTHING!!! It would be unrealistic to think you can.
They don't purposely sue disc based users. If they saw a computer being used, that is where I could see the mistake being as one could not tell unless they are up there watching your every step that you are playing from discs or the computer - which I think was what happened to Rodney, he uses a computer for other things BUT karaoke.

A company that has IP, has a choice of whether they will or will not give permission or whether they will or will not charge you to make back ups, media shift with current or future hardwear for commercial purposes. That is THEIR right.

Why are some on this forum so nit-picky?

It's the law that is nit-picky, ignoring the parts you don't like doesn't change it.
Ask a pirate.