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I am not one of them. I paid for my discs. I will not pay more to have some monkey look at them and mark them.

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I am the ONLY SANE 1 HERE

That's the solution all the KJ's should roll over and play dead, but then if they did who would buy the manus products? Quite a problem you want the pirates to stop stealing so you can sell to them. It is rather pointless isn't Smoothedge, when you stop and think about it.

Out of curiosity....

How many times do you think you have to state your position before you think we all understand what your position is?

-Chris

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-Chris

Until you people wake up and finally realize that you have been DUPED into believing that these audit policies are ridiculous, shameful, and unethical, and that charging for them is even MORE unethical.

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I am the ONLY SANE 1 HERE

Most people recognize that "thing I don't like" is not the same as "thing that is unethical."

We all know you don't like the program.

But just as a curiosity...if I could arrange for you to be audited and certified free of charge, would you be interested?

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But just as a curiosity...if I could arrange for you to be audited and certified free of charge, would you be interested?[/quote]

I can hear the Jepoardy theme song playing......or some suspence music, like.....da da da....da da da......come on Smooth, don't look a gift horse in the moo moo....

That wouldn't change my position. SC is a vendor, not a government agency. I don't believe a vendor should be inspecting and auditing their customers.

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Unfortunately, Smooth, the government believes differently and the power for producers to do so is in Federal legislation, which *gasp* the government enacted.

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You can be strange but not a stranger

Most of the laws that you refer to are very old laws and they protect the rights holders from people making copies of their stuff and then selling multiple copies of them. They were not put into place to stop someone from putting copies of files that he or she owns onto a computer for ease of use. Personal computers weren't even around when most of those laws were enacted. The cheerleaders will always feel one way and the freedom fighters will feel another way. That's why there needs to be a new judgement on the exact situations that KJs find themselves in... something dated in the last year or two maybe. I don't think Sound Choice wants this issue to be cleared up. The seem to thrive on the muddy waters that exist at this time. That's why all of those cases in Las Vegas just disappeared. They couldn't afford to go to court and lose to even one KJ but they could afford to have one of their own lawyers abscond with their money. Funny how they have no problem going after someone who transfers his own files to a PC but some of their own lawyers seem to be allowed to steal from them with impunity. Professional courtesy I guess!

Much easier to go after the lower fruit on the tree that's making a hundred bucks a night a couple of nights a week than go after the big payday from the hard drive sellers and the lawyers that are making the big money. What a shame!

I wasn't duped. If I was duped then I would have lost money on the certification. I have actually made money by being certified.

The point I was trying to make is that you are complaining to complain. What the manufacturers are doing with certification is neither unethical nor is it illegal. You just don't like it and you make sure we know this with almost daily posts complaining about it. I hardly want to stifle free communications or suggest you don't have a right to post what you will, but you aren't contributing anything beneficial to the karaoke community with non-stop complaints about something you claim has no impact on you at all anyway.

-Chris

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The cases in Las Vegas did not "disappear." There were a number of defendants who had not been served within the 120-day limit and were voluntarily dismissed (we'll re-sue them later), but the case is ongoing, and there are quite a few defendants in it still. Discovery is ongoing.

I thought the ones that were dismissed were done so in a way that would not allow Sound Choice to re-file.

I guess you thought wrong or believed certain people's propaganda.

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You have your propagandists and we have ours. But I'm still waiting for a recent court decision to clear it all up.

That was Los Angeles that was dismissed with prejudice

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To Harrington Law--as per your post--yes on the free audit--when?
You should throw that out to all K.J.s

OOOH! OOOHH! ME! ME! }}} hand waving wildly in the air{{{


Um......no. Don't mind the audit- but you will have to pay me for my time. Smallest private event is $125/hour, four hour minimum.

Of course, if I am not compliant ( which would be "1", I guess, since I am OMD-based), you could charge me back in a lawsuit. In other words, you pay for my time if I am compliant, or you can sue for yours if you find a discrepancy. Wouldn't that be fair?

One condition: Since it is well known that I have trust issues with SC, my fee would have to be paid in advance- Kind of like a client attempting to book without enough time to send a deposit. There would be no show for a customer, so the time is the only thing being paid for.

The point of this post is that a Karaoke Host's product is both their expertise and their TIME. One does not run a successful business giving away their product for free to anyone who asks.

Yes, the IRS can get away with it (twice, in my case) because they are a government agency. SC is just another public entity. Want my time? No problem- as long as you pay for it like everyone else.

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"No Contests, No Divas, Just A Good Time!"

" Disc based and loving it..."

The Government gives them the powers, just like bounty hunters have an old federal law that protects them, when going after people skipping bail. Many times the bounty hunters have hurt innocent people in trying to recapture, the bail jumpers. Many times the government grants these powers because they cannot be bothered enforcing every statue. They do not have the resources, and in the case of karaoke piracy, it is viewed as a civil matter and not a criminal one.

Do me a favor James this time during your Discovery process, make sure you know who you are suing properly identify them and find out where they live so you won't have any problem serving them. It would save you time and money.

What say Jim Bob?......at least to the important ones that sail these treacherous forums.....