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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 2:28 am 
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You have 100,000 tracks?


Was that question to me? Nope, nowhere near! I have under 10,000 (with most of the duplicates removed). That sounds pretty tiny by many folks standards, but I prefer quality over quantity. And that cost me quite enough. About 200 SC discs in the collection, for most of which I paid $30 before shipping. Was paying $35 plus shipping for the first 50 or so. Did about 10 SC custom discs too. So that's about 7 grand spent on SC content.

That's ok, if it's songs they want and ask for you are better than any 100K or more competition. I'm only at 16K+(non dup'd) tracks with nearly 22 years and STILL have more than what others have touting 100K or more as far as what people WANT to sing!

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i think it was deceMy nt and the right thing to do to re-open audits temporarily. My only question is will certification still be available for Canadian hosts?

-James


Certification will be available for Canadian hosts, just as it always has been.


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i think it was deceMy nt and the right thing to do to re-open audits temporarily. My only question is will certification still be available for Canadian hosts?

-James


Certification will be available for Canadian hosts, just as it always has been.


So how much will the certifications cost now? If it is more than $150 would Kurt be willing to take a deposit and the rest when the audit is completed?

I know it's going to take you some time to get things set up properly again, but I would still like to send money when i actually get my disability money on the 1st. Or do i actually need to call PEP to set something up?

thank you for your time

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Rats i meant to send this as a pm.. please pm me with your response. thank you


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jclaydon wrote:
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i think it was deceMy nt and the right thing to do to re-open audits temporarily. My only question is will certification still be available for Canadian hosts?

-James


Certification will be available for Canadian hosts, just as it always has been.


So how much will the certifications cost now? If it is more than $150 would Kurt be willing to take a deposit and the rest when the audit is completed?

I know it's going to take you some time to get things set up properly again, but I would still like to send money when i actually get my disability money on the 1st. Or do i actually need to call PEP to set something up?

thank you for your time

-James

Rats i meant to send this as a pm.. please pm me with your response. thank you


I think we would all be interested to see what he has to say.

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Disability money? How do you run a karaoke show if you're disabled?


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Disability money? How do you run a karaoke show if you're disabled?


There are all kinds of disabilities both physical and mental.


Mine happens to be a little bit of both, but it wouldn't prrevent me from running a karaoke show once a week.

We have an absolutely great program here in Alberta, it actually ENCOURAGES you to work if you are able.

I wouldn't be able to do karaoke full time, that's for sure.. Not without a very competent assistant and a lot of help with setup and teardown.

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jclaydon wrote:
So how much will the certifications cost now? If it is more than $150 would Kurt be willing to take a deposit and the rest when the audit is completed?


Although you asked me to PM your response, I think it would be helpful to post these details:

Applications will be accepted online only.

The initial application/certification fee is $150 per system certified and must be paid with the application. Applicants will be given a provisional certification, including listing in the certified KJ list, once they have submitted a complete application. Audits will be scheduled as soon as practicable, depending on the number of applicants and the general workload. Audits are generally going to be handled via Skype.

Certifications under this new program will be valid for one year from acceptance of a completed application. Certified KJs can choose to renew at a $100 per system annual fee. Renewal will include a maintenance inspection.

Operators who are certified under the old program will continue under the terms of their prior certification.

We will have more details available when the program is ready. We expect to be up and running before the end of this month, if not sooner. We'll make an announcement here and on the PEP.rocks website when that happens.


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So how much will the certifications cost now? If it is more than $150 would Kurt be willing to take a deposit and the rest when the audit is completed?




Certifications under this new program will be valid for one year from acceptance of a completed application. Certified KJs can choose to renew at a $100 per system annual fee. Renewal will include a maintenance inspection.



So if I'm reading this correctly. The audit fee is $150.00 and then there is a yearly renewal fee of $100.00 to maintain the certification? Just wanted to clarify this.


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So if I'm reading this correctly. The audit fee is $150.00 and then there is a yearly renewal fee of $100.00 to maintain the certification? Just wanted to clarify this.


Yes. We will be doing annual "maintenance" audits under this program, thus the annual fee.


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Annual fee - not too excited about that.

It's economically feasible and I think represents a significant effort to be reasonable on your part, so thanks for that.

However, I still believe I'll just use my player and phase SC out over time with other brands.

Why? Because I still believe a 1:1 KJ ought to pay once when he buys his discs period.

If you want to audit my Sound Choice discs free and not give me any certification I'll be happy to let you see them, but I won't pay any annual fee.


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Well for me personally, one year allows me to decide if i have truly put in the effort and work it requires to be a successful host.

Maybe if i make the commitment to myself, knowing that i have a deadline if i want to have a gig that will finance the fee of paying every year, it will motivate me to try harder.

I don't know what it is that will not allow me to give up completely on becoming a karaoke host, but no matter how many times i fail, the desire is there there. Almost like some kind of long lost ache that will just not go away

plus as i have stated before, it is my own fault that i procrastinated so i pretty much view this as a consequence of that procrastination.

However, for those of you who did make a substatial investment in discs, i would strongly sugest that you contact PEP/Kurt and ask for an exception from the yearly fees. I'm not saying anything would come of it, but hey it never hurts to ask right?


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I've never been to a Lonman show, but from looking at your book I love your collection Lonnie.


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Speaking of MP3'S and loss...
The original mp3 was tested on the acapella version of "Tom's Diner" by Suzanne Vega. So how much do you really lose in an mp3?

http://www.factmag.com/2015/02/19/liste ... diner-mp3/


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Mr. Harrington how long will it be before new production. Thanks


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BigJer wrote:
Speaking of MP3'S and loss...
The original mp3 was tested on the acapella version of "Tom's Diner" by Suzanne Vega. So how much do you really lose in an mp3?

http://www.factmag.com/2015/02/19/liste ... diner-mp3/



Bazza will tell you that an MP3 is the magnificent acme of musical tracks- equal to the full sound spectrum of vinyl and the clean sound of digital CDs combined, with no loss- so no worries.... :roll:

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you would be amazed at how many of the manus and publishers actually send MP3 to get pressed onto disc instead of .wav.
....of those that are still using CD's....

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Another question for Mr. Harrington...

How do the hosts who sign up for the certification program know that the "maintenance fees" won't be bumped up in cost or frequency? Will there be any written guarantees in that regard?


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BigJer wrote:
Annual fee - not too excited about that.

It's economically feasible and I think represents a significant effort to be reasonable on your part, so thanks for that.

However, I still believe I'll just use my player and phase SC out over time with other brands.

Why? Because I still believe a 1:1 KJ ought to pay once when he buys his discs period.


You're welcome to do so. As I have said many times:

1) Become certified (or by a HELP license), or
2) Use your original discs, or
3) Don't use the product.

Any of these three options are perfectly fine with us. What is not fine with us is making a new product with our trademarks on it, then not taking the very reasonable steps we require to differentiate yourself from pirates.

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If you want to audit my Sound Choice discs free and not give me any certification I'll be happy to let you see them, but I won't pay any annual fee.


It's your choice not to become certified, and as long as you use your original discs, you have nothing to worry about. But we have set up this program to balance a variety of interests, not just yours specifically, so no, we won't be auditing you for free.


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BigJer wrote:
Another question for Mr. Harrington...

How do the hosts who sign up for the certification program know that the "maintenance fees" won't be bumped up in cost or frequency? Will there be any written guarantees in that regard?


We don't foresee any increases, but any increase would be tied to the actual cost of the audits. If you get certified, then decide not to maintain your certification because it's not cost-effective to do so, that's your choice.


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Mr. Harrington, I appreciate your promptness in answering my questions.


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