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Since SC is the one with the plan, and it's designed to make THEM money (both in recovering losses and in improvement of the environment for selling new music), it really should be at their expense. Although it may help slightly (depending on market), it is not meant to bring more money to the KJs who are paying.

Absolutely I would. The KJs never asked for this. This was a plan by SC to make sure that KJs are doing the right thing, they should be paying for it. The fact that they have raised the price from $125 to $150 is proof that this is not a "service" for the KJs. So, yes, were it MY company I would take the hit, as good will toward my customers. True customers have already enriched Sound Choice's pockets by buying their products. Asking them to pay more for something they didn't even ask for, and really doesn't do much for them is above and beyond. Certification has helped SOME KJs. What does the KJ get? He/she gets a promissory note that they won't get sued for one year. Big deal. $150 buys them "protection" from a lawsuit for one year. SC should, at the very least, give the voluntary audit for free. They will still make money from future purchases by said KJs. And they will make their money on lawsuits from track thieves.

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What I think is fair is that the KJ should pay the "FEE" if found guilty of some crime. If the KJ is found not guilty; then Sound Choice should have to pay the accused 100 times the "FEE"

, $15,000 buys a lot of karaoke discs.

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we are being told we have to take it.
the entire reason for this is the pirates, trying to get money back from them. i did not steal anything, i did not cost them a dime, why should i have to pay for the ones who did? do the audits, if one is not compliant, charge em, if they are walk away and say thank you.

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I didn't do that, either. Again, I didn't cause the problem, and I shouldn't have to bear the cost.

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This is beginning to remind me of the Maury Povich show. You know the shows that I'm talking about. The ones where some woman accuses some guy of getting her pregnant and swears up and down that he is the only guy who can possibly be the father of her child. Well, the DNA tests come back and the poor guy is not the father and a month later the same woman is back on the show accusing the next guy of being the father and of course; he's not the father either. Sound Choice is out there accusing every KJ with a computer of being "the baby daddy" with no consequences for Sound Choice when they are wrong. At least Maury Povich doesn't ask the innocent falsely accused to pay for their own DNA testing. How much mud is Sound Choice going to be allowed to sling before someone files a defamation law suit against them for millions of dollars?

You just can't go around accusing people of a crime willy nilly and force the accused to prove his innocence. It is up to the accuser to have proof that the person is guilty; not the other way around.

What would happen to a woman who just went around accusing every guy that she didn't like of raping her? After a number of cases being found to be without merit; the accuser becomes known as the girl who cried wolf and god forbid that she ever really was raped; the powers that be would be hard pressed to believe her story when it was actually true.

Because Sound Choice believes that every KJ with a PC has ripped them off; they run around filing law suits against just about everyone within their wide net with no fear of having to pay the consequences when they are wrong. Maybe that is why those Las Vegas Casino law suits were abandoned by Sound Choice? Someone finally had the financial backing to stand up and fight the good fight and Sound Choice tucked their tail between their legs and slithered away.

Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you were computer based and had made copies of your Sound Choice discs.

My apologies.

That's the thing with the way they are doing it they convince you that you have committed a crime even if you have disks, merely by media shifting the disks, even at 1:1 ratio which causes them ZERO losses...but you have made a "counterfeit" copy of their logo and display it. So they are declaring us all guilty of something, to try to get money from everyone instead of just thieves.

Why can't everyone think like that

I purchased a pretty decent cg+g set but a lot of my karaoke songs come off YOUTUBE. Is that illegal? They are not the original songs by the original artists but like "karaoke versions" if you will. Every one I've downloaded does not even have vocals on it. Many even say they are by a particular person or it appears to be like the real deal karaoke version. I download them in their existing format then convert them to AVI using Any Video Converter from windows. It was a free software download. I use it to convert all kinds of files I have on my hard drive. Movies etc.. Or I use RealPlayer to convert to AVI. I don't submit those downloaded songs on my profile because my karaoke player does not record to that format. I can only record using a disc or Mp3+g format with my low budget player/recorder. I don't have the software to convert to Mp3+g. Just sharing and wondering.

Folks when I said would you be willing to take the hit I meant if you were manufacturing IP, would you just let it be misused/stolen/unauthorized copied and not do anything, losing thousands of dollars?

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onegirlup...
Yes using tracks from Youtube is illegal...if you read the youtube terms of service it does state as much. Do yourself a favor and buy the tracks you use before you get in any trouble.

Bright Blessings
Athena

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Karaokegod73,
You are confusing civil and criminal cases...in civil court you are not innocent until proven guilty in this country...that only applies in criminal cases.

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Athena

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If you aren't paying for the track (from authorized sources), then yes it's illegal to use.

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The person who sold them to you has indeed broken the law.
You won't be breaking the law, however, until you play them in a public venue.

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I don't use my collections for anything except for home use. I am a CA RDA so no, I do not do Karaoke for a job nor do I plan to do so anytime soon. LoL... Yes I do karaoke out in public sometimes too but not as a KJ or whatever a Karaoke DJ is labeled. Thanks for the good information to all. Much appreciated! <3

PS I bought my cd+g sets online from Karaoke Warehouse. I also bought a Judds collection single cd on Amazon. I don't know if they are 'legal' or not as I did not compile nor produce the discs. Thanks again folks!

Victoria,
if you are using them for "home use" then I doubt anyone would come after you and you would be safe.
Blessings
Athena

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CD+G sets bought from Karaoke Warehouse and/or Amazon are most likely legal even in a public setting. As long as you didn't make a copy of the disc and use it in a public setting. Using the original media is fine..take your disc's to karaoke shows and have the KJ play them for you to sing to. Don't let anyone else make a copy of it....that is illegal

As said above, downloads from YouTube are not legal. The person that posts them on YouTube in the first place, most likely broke copy-write law. Use those downloads at home and you will be fine... use them in a public setting (this includes posting online), and you would be breaking the law since you did not pay for the right to publicly perform said media.

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