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so as far as anyone knows, Soundchoice might have gotten approval from a publisher who had a part stake in a song and Warner knew nothing about it.

Mind you I am just speculating here, as I'm not the one who produced the tracks in the first place.

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It's possible. You've heard of the saying "The left hand didn't know what the right hand was doing".

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It's possible. You've heard of the saying "The left hand didn't know what the right hand was doing".

That sounds like a Johnny Reverb punchline.

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you all seem to forget sound choice isn't sueing over the music....

they are sueing for the displaying of their logo on a media shifted pc!
that in itself has nothing to do with the liscensing of the music in question.

harrington law should make this point everytime they answer a question.... their vague responses are just that way on purpose.



I agree that what you say above is true, but in this case the subject was about Karaoke Express BEING Sued for distributing unlicensed music.

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Good to know. I was under the impression that neither of these two artists' tracks were ever licensed to any karaoke producer...

Learn something new every day, I guess....


Well, remember that while we think of Rod Stewart and Michael Jackson as singer-songwriters--which they are/were--each of those three songs had a co-writer, and the Copyright Act gives each joint author the right to license. Rights may therefore end up in the hands of several publishers, any of whom can license the track. Single-publisher tracks are uncommon.


So, as explained in regard to "Hotel California", we could both be right? The single artists named may not have licensed anything, but collaborators may have? No debate here, I'm just saying that is how I'm understanding it.

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won't it just be as easy as sending copies of the license paperwork to the opposing attorney? kinda like an audit, just show you have the disc (license) and pay the man for their time and you will be dismissed.

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JoeChartreuse wrote:
mightywiz wrote:
you all seem to forget sound choice isn't sueing over the music....

they are sueing for the displaying of their logo on a media shifted pc!
that in itself has nothing to do with the liscensing of the music in question.

harrington law should make this point everytime they answer a question.... their vague responses are just that way on purpose.



I agree that what you say above is true, but in this case the subject was about Sound Choice BEING Sued for music.

Where did it say SC was 'being sued' (referring to OP)?

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Paradigm Karaoke wrote:
won't it just be as easy as sending copies of the license paperwork to the opposing attorney? kinda like an audit, just show you have the disc (license) and pay the man for their time and you will be dismissed.

Then we get publishers suing the opposing publisher for releasing lol.

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won't it just be as easy as sending copies of the license paperwork to the opposing attorney? kinda like an audit, just show you have the disc (license) and pay the man for their time and you will be dismissed.

Then we get publishers suing the opposing publisher for releasing lol.


First, SC has not been sued insofar as I am aware, and certainly not in that suit.

Second, your premise doesn't make sense because even though a joint author can independently license the work, the pro rata royalty must be paid to each rights holder. That occurs as a matter of routine.

As I said before, we don't have enough information from the lawsuit itself to know what Warner is talking about. Perhaps more information will come to light.


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Paradigm Karaoke wrote:
won't it just be as easy as sending copies of the license paperwork to the opposing attorney? kinda like an audit, just show you have the disc (license) and pay the man for their time and you will be dismissed.

Then we get publishers suing the opposing publisher for releasing lol.


First, SC has not been sued insofar as I am aware, and certainly not in that suit.

Second, your premise doesn't make sense because even though a joint author can independently license the work, the pro rata royalty must be paid to each rights holder. That occurs as a matter of routine.

As I said before, we don't have enough information from the lawsuit itself to know what Warner is talking about. Perhaps more information will come to light.


Huh? I was just making a joke. :oops:

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