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If you can hear it or see it, there is always a way to capture it to pirate if one were so determined - dongle or not. If it can be played, it can be captured.

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You're all missing the point, just as Sound Choice does. Of course you're right that you can't technologically make anything piracy-proof--people pirate movies by filming the screen at the Cineplex.

But you can have a business plan that's piracy proof, by making piracy either irrelevant to your revenue stream or actually help you make money.

Not only that, once you do it, you upload it to a torrent and boom! Free stuff for the entire world!

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[color=#ffff55]Mickey J.[/color]
Alas for those who never sing, but die with all their music in them.
-- Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.

If people want to steal this stuff, they are going to do it. Spending a bunch of money trying to prevent it is wasting every penny spent. I am not saying piracy is right. It's dead wrong. I am just saying it is fact. And I don't use the FACT word often. Focus on making it easy for those who will spend TO spend is the only answer.

But in the case of encrypted files the pirated file could be traced back to the dongle, as it is adding part of the digital watermarking to the audio file.

Of course this would only work with new files utilizing this type of DRM environment. So, for example, if Sound Choice were to produce new works they could implement this to help stave off new piracy.

Never work.. To many built in loopholes..

Nothing about this is even remotely correct.

The bottom line is, IF Sound Choice gave a damn about their customers, and their customers' wants and needs, they WOULD go BACK into production, after figuring out the best way to sell their material, so it would get minimally pirated. They would STOP punishing their clientele for moving into the present and shifting over to computer, and stop treating their customers like they are criminals. Aside from that, they are going to slide further and further into irrelevancy. Over time both their product, and their legacy will fade. Discs only last a finite period of time. SC doesn't care about their customer base. They care about money, and ONLY money, which makes them a typical modern company, no better than Walmart!!

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Not if it's captured and repurposed into a new completely unrelated file unless it is embedded in the actual video itself, any watermarking could be erased.

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You guys are stuck on solving the intractable technological problem, but it's really a business problem. Give the product away and support it with advertising or add-on products. If you don't make money from sales of the product, piracy is irrelevant and may even help you.

Hey, you're a SC customer.

You haven't been sued.

You haven't been harassed.

You haven't even been investigated.

You've been offered a free audit and certification.

So, as a SC customer, based on your actual personal experience with the company, how exactly have you been treated like you're a criminal?

I'm all ears.

Mr. Harrington I agree. I have had nothing but positive experiences. Brian has always been helpful. But I have been asking for over a year when will new production begin. I will be one of your biggest customers. I will buy every disc they come out with. I even offered to buy gift cards in advance especially if they offer discounts. Can u please let me know when u predict how long it will be. I would really like to talk to u. Brian has my number. Thanks

What's wrong with Walmart?

The ONLY reason I have not been treated like a crook is because I haven't shift. If i came on here and said that I media shifted my SC, you would be on my like flies on poop, treating me like Nixon's illegitimate crack baby.

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So you have missed some- you'll get to them eventually. That IS the business plan, right?....

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" Disc based and loving it..."

Well I don't know what your experience has been, but mine has been pretty good overall. Never had an issue when I needed to call about something except once

The only complaint I have, is they were supposed to send me a replacement disc for a disc I bought from an online reputable retail chain, but still turned to be a fake. I never got it.

At the moment, someone is working really hard to try and find me a way to lease a GEM set in a way that allows me to afford it they are just waiting to hear back from Kurt.

-James

I firmly believe that people are blinded by hatred for Kurt and SC - a hatred that was inspired by and fostered by just a small number of individuals - that prevents people from allowing themselves to be open in any way to appreciating what SC/PEP is doing to stay in business.

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I don't hate any company or person, and I'm not blind nor blinded...

I did meet Kurt, and was not impressed. I've met that type individual before

Y0re mileage will vary..

Yes, I have some (a lot) S/C discs. Yes, I'm keeping them..

Not sure why anyone needs to debate this issue.. Kinda tiring..

I have brought up the same plan many times, and would be fine with it. Simply put, those who pass should not be penalized for doing nothing wrong.

As stated above, you have not chosen to do this. The answer is simple- why subtract income when you can add it- proving that customer loyalty to your product is undeserved.

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" Disc based and loving it..."

Same nonsense. No one can hate a corporate entity- it's not alive.

I do not hate either Kurt or Jim. I don't know them. I am not stupid enough to think that internet forum debates are a way to know the full range of someone's personality.

I would add that off-forum communications with Jim have always been civil and respectful- with pleasant even thrown in now and again.

As a matter of fact, the one phone call that I shared with Kurt was civil as well- though we both sort of avoided certain subjects.

Hate? Only in your your mind Chris. I'll tell you something else. I have had many off-forum phone conversations with some of those whose views on SC are completely opposed to mine, and have made some friends in the process. I also continually invite those whose views differ from mine ( and of course, those who agree) to call me.

Any "hate" here on this forum seems to be minimal to almost nonexistent.

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"No Contests, No Divas, Just A Good Time!"

" Disc based and loving it..."