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PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:23 am 
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Was given this link last night, checked it out and just about ran screaming from the PC........ 32,000 songs???????????


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... K:MEWAX:IT


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Have fun and look at some of the other stuff they are selling. You can get these 35,000 plus 15,000 in Spanish for $7.99.

I got a kick out of the ad for cloned websites. These are copies of the scripts for producing websites like some of the famous ones on the internet. They say they use different logos so as not to break copyright law.

http://cgi.ebay.com/40-CLONE-websites-n ... ltDomain_0

Hard to believe people actually do this stuff, huh? I guess it's not all karaoke!

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Some of the most worthless ads show up on eBay

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Note: These are not CD's, but it is all downloadable material.
These songs are only to be played on your PC with Windows XP, Vista or Windows 7 (if you have another OS or operating system, the please ask me and I will see if yours is compatible. These songs are in .kar and .mid formats.

· You simply install the software which you can get for free online (links are included) and these tracks to your home PC or laptop, plug in a microphone, select the track you want and the free software does the rest. All you need is included in this purchase. Easy as 123!


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"These songs are in .kar and .mid formats."

35,000 Midi files. Nice. :roll:


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For a better sound, you may connect your PC to your stereo system or simply enjoy them with your PC speakers.

Sorry, but there is NOTHING that is going to help kar and midi files sound any better.
LMAO!


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Going to upset someone.

Midi has a far worse press than it deserves.
Many film score backing tracks are exclusively Midi.

You will find Chart hits that are Midi.
Karaoke tracks that are Midi.

For a good while now excellent Midi sound modules have been available.
In the hands of a competent musician...
You wouldn't know the difference.


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But I can almost guarantee that the MIDI/KAR files in question are probably not good quality considering the price.


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These 36,000 songs have been done by aspiring musicians with two pennies to rub together.
It is probably been a collection from 20,ooo musicians.
There may be 1000 good if played through a good sound module.

I agree the quality of these may be questionable.
But there is good stuff out there.


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Dont forget you can get the whole SC collection for a couple of hundred.


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jerry12x @ 18th August 2010, 7:11 am wrote:
Dont forget you can get the whole SC collection for a couple of hundred.


and they too use MIDI

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What people don't realise is that great producers like trevor horne
A bit dated now. (Frankie goes to Hollywood)
Did Midi.

Midi. Get up to date guys.

Bad is only bad with a bad musician.


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These songs are in .kar and .mid formats


Well, at least the seller is honest enough to say that he hasn't paid for the rights to any of these songs. Nice of him to include a freeware copy of KaraFun. I can't really tell what he's selling, some kind of download membership, I guess, but I want no part of it.

While good music can be played with MIDI, what goes into a .mid file is not the music, just the signals that tell the synth what to do. Until the composer has actually put it together into music, .wav, .mp3 or whatever, there is no way to predict what it will sound like.

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Midi is just a signal that shows which note, instrument number and length. Pitch
changing is also supported. The quality of the output depends upon the quality
of the samples in your midi patch set. Even then, the sound is 'dry' and needs
further processing (reverb, compression, gating, limiting etc).
Much of the music you've been buying for the last 25 years is midi based, but
it sounds different when put through 10 grand synths and effects processors.


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jerry12x @ Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:47 pm wrote:
What people don't realise is that great producers like trevor horne
A bit dated now. (Frankie goes to Hollywood)
Did Midi.

Midi. Get up to date guys.

Bad is only bad with a bad musician.


Midi is actually more popular now than it's ever been. With the advent of digital recording suites like ProTools, you can use midi to recreate an amazingly realistic sounding concert grand piano, 12 piece rock drum kit, and just about any other instrument you can think of.

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letitrip @ Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:02 am wrote:
jerry12x @ Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:47 pm wrote:
What people don't realise is that great producers like trevor horne
A bit dated now. (Frankie goes to Hollywood)
Did Midi.

Midi. Get up to date guys.

Bad is only bad with a bad musician.


Midi is actually more popular now than it's ever been. With the advent of digital recording suites like ProTools, you can use midi to recreate an amazingly realistic sounding concert grand piano, 12 piece rock drum kit, and just about any other instrument you can think of.

Problem is, when applied to karaoke (kar and midi files), the result is usually less than satisfactory.


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I've yet to hear any MIDI electric guitar tracks that sound like anything but pure, 100% sh!t.

Drums, banjo, acoustic guitar, piano, harp, plenty of good sounding MIDI instrument sounds.. but it just can't get the electric guitar.. especially not a distorted rock guitar sound.

The other thing MIDI really tends to suck at is guitar bends.

MIDI sure has improved since the days I used to put together sequences on a Mac Classic running into a Roland SC-7 Sound Canvas circa 1992.. but again.. not anything i'd want to use for anything requiring electric guitar.

But 35,000 songs for $5? Hell.. even if you found 10 songs out of the 35,000 that didn't completely suck, you'd have gotten your moneys worth.


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Diafella & Cheese.

You are showing your ignorance now.

You do actually need a sound module to hear it through.


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Midi is just using a recorded sample of a musical note. How good the midi depends on if that recorded sample is well recorded and done professionally and is appropriate for the track being made. A midi composition dependent only on the samples provided automatically by windows95 is probably going to be pretty poor. On the other hand the big music studios can get some very good (and appropriate) samples to work into a composition that they wish to make.

Unfortunately most "Midi" karaoke is going to be done by a person running on free software and systems far from the professional best.

Regardless of how the MIDI karaoke was made the fact that it is Midi does not change the fact that royalties should have been paid to the artists same as if the song was done with insturments. At this price I would bet no on that count.


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jerry12x @ Wed Aug 18, 2010 6:32 pm wrote:
Diafella & Cheese.

You are showing your ignorance now.

You do actually need a sound module to hear it through.


Correct, it sounds bad because they are not using the proper tools :roll: The .kar & .mid has nothing to do...

Like Jian said, even SC uses midi and in many tracks I should say :wink:


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Sure MIDI files are just the sheet music essentially. Use your Midi files on your Korg synthesizer and Yamaha drum machine, etc, and it might sound pretty good.

But on a PC using the built-in Windows MIDI engine? :lol: :lol: :lol:


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