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					| Guess I'll have to settle for another mfg at comparable price. My loss and theirs, but I'll never go back to being disc based. 
 
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			| Paradigm Karaoke | 
				
				
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					| well, what good is buying compuhost from them if i cant play their songs on it?Selectatrack, Zoom, Sunfly customs look good right now
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			| c. staley | 
				
				
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					| How funny! First they "partner" with a CD+G software company; Compuhost.... then their "custom discs" product won't play with their own "partner's software?" Chartbuster's Web Site wrote: *Custom CD+G discs will only play in karaoke players and will not play in computers
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			| rumbolt | 
				
				
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					| BigJer wrote: Guess I'll have to settle for another mfg at comparable price. My loss and theirs, but I'll never go back to being disc based. I have many custom discs from Chartbuster and regular disc and am not having any problems playing their disc on my computer. Describe your exact problem._________________
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			| Lonman | 
				
				
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					| I had some first run customs that wouldn't import through Hoster, but was able to through Microstudio.  The last few i've bought didn't have that restriction.  It's probably the same protection system. _________________LIKE Lonman on Facebook - Lonman Productions Karaoke & my main site via my profile! 
 
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			| BigJer | 
				
				
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					| Hey Rumbolt, I'm just taking Chartbusters at their word.  Follow the link and read what they wrote on their own website. I'm not going to bother to purchase one of their custom discs to find out if I can bypass it, because it's obvious that Chartbusters no longer wishes their custom tracks to be played on computer. I sadly accept that fact.http://www.chartbusterkaraoke.com/custom-albums
 
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			| Lonman | 
				
				
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					| BigJer wrote: Hey Rumbolt, I'm just taking Chartbusters at their word.  Follow the link and read what they wrote on their own website. I'm not going to bother to purchase one of their custom discs to find out if I can bypass it, because it's obvious that Chartbusters no longer wishes their custom tracks to be played on computer. I sadly accept that fact.http://www.chartbusterkaraoke.com/custom-albumsThey've always had that blurb._________________LIKE Lonman on Facebook - Lonman Productions Karaoke & my main site via my profile! 
 
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			| hiteck | 
				
				
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					| If you're running on a pc why not opt for the MP3+G option? _________________
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			| Thunder | 
				
				
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					| hiteck wrote: If you're running on a pc why not opt for the MP3+G option? What a novel idea!  
 
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			| hiteck | 
				
				
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					| Thunder wrote: hiteck wrote: If you're running on a pc why not opt for the MP3+G option? What a novel idea!  I have my moments   _________________
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			| rumbolt | 
				
				
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					| BigJer wrote: Hey Rumbolt, I'm just taking Chartbusters at their word.  Follow the link and read what they wrote on their own website. I'm not going to bother to purchase one of their custom discs to find out if I can bypass it, because it's obvious that Chartbusters no longer wishes their custom tracks to be played on computer. I sadly accept that fact.http://www.chartbusterkaraoke.com/custom-albumsAre you playing them throught the player or ripping them to the hardirve. I just assumed you are ripping them to the hardrive. My bad._________________
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			| Thunder | 
				
				
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					| This is almost too funny!*Custom CD+G discs will only play in karaoke players and will not play in computers. This disclaimer has been used by almost every CDG manu both still in existence and those who have long been gone from the business, from way back before Computer karaoke player systems were even viable. Because at the time Computer CD drives couldn't read the graphics so you had to have a "Karaoke player" to use the disc. I guess any excuse to denigrate a manu will do!   
 
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			| Paradigm Karaoke | 
				
				
					|  Posted:  Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:49 pm  |  |  
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					| remember all the problems months back for reading deeper into things than necessary creating problems? now just taking them at face value is denigrating? the site was rebuilt a few months back, it was put in that place on purpose, not accident. it is now not necessary to have there unless they are being copy protected. are they? who knows? but if i bought one and it COULD NOT RIP...then i would have a list of people who would point the finger back at me and say "it says so right on their website"
 take it at face value and "its always been there, dont wory about it"
 dont believe it and "well they told you so"
 
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			| JoeChartreuse | 
				
				
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					| c. staley wrote: How funny! First they "partner" with a CD+G software company; Compuhost.... then their "custom discs" product won't play with their own "partner's software?" Chartbuster's Web Site wrote: *Custom CD+G discs will only play in karaoke players and will not play in computers  AWESOME!   Think about it:  Like it or not ( in other words disc based or PC) this COULD ( I mean if it were actually true) put a dent in piracy growth.  Yes, it's easy for me to say, being disc based, but maybe getting back to basics will make piracy tougher.     Unfortunately, though I think it's a great idea, I DO understand that PC hosting is a biggie now, and don't think CB will take the financial hit for it and make discs that way._________________
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			| Paradigm Karaoke | 
				
				
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					| JoeChartreuse wrote:   AWESOME!   Think about it:  Like it or not ( in other words disc based or PC) this COULD ( I mean if it were actually true) put a dent in piracy growth.  Yes, it's easy for me to say, being disc based, but maybe getting back to basics will make piracy tougher.
 Unfortunately, though I think it's a great idea, I DO understand that PC hosting is a biggie now, and don't think CB will take the financial hit for it and make discs that way.
 maybe, but remember that disc based is where the piracy started. just duping discs. i don't see it helping any more than any other idea so far for putting a dent in piracy. i would still make a copy of my discs and leave the originals at home, making me look just like the guy who made copies of his buddies discs. same issues as PC_________________
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			| Lonman | 
				
				
					|  Posted:  Tue Apr 19, 2011 2:16 pm  |  |  
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					| Only copy protection that really worked well was Sound Choice experiment with Mediacloq.  Probably more that 90% of the computers absolutely would not read those discs - nor even load them.  I know none of my cdg compatible drives worked at all.  I did have 1 older computer with an OLD Plextor, Windows 2000 & Tricerasoft CDG Ripper that I was able to sort of get work.  It took literally 15 hours to rip one 15 song disc.  However the drive only lasted for 3 discs & burned out.  My other drives would not work nor recognize the discs.Only downfall and the reason they quit using it was that many legitimate cdg karaoke players that were computer based (not a computer player) on their playback, would also not read those discs.
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			| Thunder | 
				
				
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					| Lonman wrote: Only copy protection that really worked well was Sound Choice experiment with Mediacloq.  Probably more that 90% of the computers absolutely would not read those discs - nor even load them.  I know none of my cdg compatible drives worked at all.  I did have 1 older computer with an OLD Plextor, Windows 2000 & Tricerasoft CDG Ripper that I was able to sort of get work.  It took literally 15 hours to rip one 15 song disc.  However the drive only lasted for 3 discs & burned out.  My other drives would not work nor recognize the discs.Only downfall and the reason they quit using it was that many legitimate cdg karaoke players that were computer based (not a computer player) on their playback, would also not read those discs.
 Actually the Pioneer 555 player would not read the mediaclog disc either.
 
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			| Thunder | 
				
				
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					| Paradigm Karaoke wrote: remember all the problems months back for reading deeper into things than necessary creating problems? now just taking them at face value is denigrating? the site was rebuilt a few months back, it was put in that place on purpose, not accident. it is now not necessary to have there unless they are being copy protected. are they? who knows? but if i bought one and it COULD NOT RIP...then i would have a list of people who would point the finger back at me and say "it says so right on their website"
 take it at face value and "its always been there, dont wory about it"
 dont believe it and "well they told you so"
 
 can't win on either side
 Hey I am just going by the disclaimer I have "very old" SC, CB, Pioneer etc. inserts that state exactly the same thing word for word. In fact I just stuck three CDG disc into the computer I am typing this on and you know not a single one of them would display the lyrics as they played. And this computer is less than 1 year old so the disclaimer is still valid. Rumbolt just stated that he has "many" Custom CDGs from Chartbuster and every one of them ripped to his computer. So NO I am not reading between the lines, YES I am taking his post at face value!
 
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			| Lonman | 
				
				
					|  Posted:  Tue Apr 19, 2011 3:16 pm  |  |  
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					| Thunder wrote: Lonman wrote: Only copy protection that really worked well was Sound Choice experiment with Mediacloq.  Probably more that 90% of the computers absolutely would not read those discs - nor even load them.  I know none of my cdg compatible drives worked at all.  I did have 1 older computer with an OLD Plextor, Windows 2000 & Tricerasoft CDG Ripper that I was able to sort of get work.  It took literally 15 hours to rip one 15 song disc.  However the drive only lasted for 3 discs & burned out.  My other drives would not work nor recognize the discs.Only downfall and the reason they quit using it was that many legitimate cdg karaoke players that were computer based (not a computer player) on their playback, would also not read those discs.
 Actually the Pioneer 555 player would not read the mediaclog disc either.Right but like I said that was one of the computer based players.  It was more problematic on the DVD hybrid players._________________LIKE Lonman on Facebook - Lonman Productions Karaoke & my main site via my profile! 
 
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			| JoeChartreuse | 
				
				
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					| Paradigm Karaoke wrote: JoeChartreuse wrote:   AWESOME!   Think about it:  Like it or not ( in other words disc based or PC) this COULD ( I mean if it were actually true) put a dent in piracy growth.  Yes, it's easy for me to say, being disc based, but maybe getting back to basics will make piracy tougher.
 Unfortunately, though I think it's a great idea, I DO understand that PC hosting is a biggie now, and don't think CB will take the financial hit for it and make discs that way.
 maybe, but remember that disc based is where the piracy started. just duping discs. i don't see it helping any more than any other idea so far for putting a dent in piracy. i would still make a copy of my discs and leave the originals at home, making me look just like the guy who made copies of his buddies discs. same issues as PC     Of course there would still be piracy, and it would be equally sleazy.  However the reason for the huge boom in the last few years is that MP3s can be found for FREE, weigh nothing ( 100K tracks as easy to carry as 10K) work on equipment that most have at home ( a laptop).    Though MUCH cheaper than buying discs, getting someone to burn a whole collection means hundreds of hours of work, the cost of the discs/labeling.    Those discs wouldn't be free.   In actuality, it would probably cost the same or more  for 15K tracks on discs than it would for a 100K track HD.    That's just the music.  A PC pirate can stick his music in his computer, pirate a virtual mixer, and add a mic and 2 used powered speakers- instant KJ for whatever the speakers and mic cost ( remember, he probably already had the lappy).    A disc pirate will AT LEAST have to buy a player and mixer along with the speakers.  Also, be reminded that the disc pirate won't be carrying a 100K library to each show.  Back in the day, when disc pirates were the only ones there were, they usually carried around 5-10K tracks....    .......and there were WAY FEWER pirates than today._________________
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