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All those who have been wrongfully named (also referred to as being sued) in a Lawsuit by Sound Choice please step forward and tell us about it.

IN MY OPINION... The arguments in this Forum about the SC Lawsuits keep going around in circles, and some of the people here keep bringing up the same few names as examples to make their point, and it's gotten old. Mr Harrington insists that the mistakes made in naming people in their Lawsuits have been minimal and have been rectified immediately (upon discovery of such). I'd be curious to know how minimal.

I'd like to hear from some new people that have been named/sued by SC. Tell us what happened to get you named in the first place, and if your case has been resolved. If you can (and are willing to) talk any further about it, tell us how it was resolved, and whether or not it was resolved to your satisfaction. Did it affect you in any way?

Now obviously, I don't expect to hear from any of the truly illegal KJ/Operators out there, and I'm sure most of these people (who I am looking for to post) don't even read this Forum (or they would have chimed in a long time ago). Each of you here (in this Forum ) probably know of some KJs that were named/sued by SC. How about sending them in this direction, and ask them to post about it here?

Just speaking up, but i'm willing to bet that those who got named by mistake are not many. It seems the same 2 that keep getting named as 'points' have everything already taken care of & are continuing business as usual. I would think (just my opinion) out of all the lawsuits that have been filed to date, if their were any more true 'disc' users mistakenly named, it surely wouldv'e been brought up somewhere.

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I wasn't just referring to Disc-based Operators... I was referring to both (Disc-based and HD-based).

I am of the same belief as you. I opened this topic thread to see if there are more out there, and if they are willing (or able and willing) to describe what happened with their case/s. It would also be interesting to hear first-hand from other HD-based KJs that are 1:1, who were sued/named just because they are using a HD (like we heard from KJAthena).

I doubt that they are able to speak up even if they wanted to. (confidentiality agreement of some sort). HarringtonLaw and I have already gone 'round 'n 'round on that one.... there are HD users that were voluntarily dismissed with no audit or anything else. His continual prodding for names from me was simply so that he could drag them into court again....

It might be just as effective for you to contact them privately and individually rather than expect them all to come here to answer you publicly. You'll find that even those that were sued and voluntarily dismissed WITH prejudice won't discuss it publicly either.

I understand the nature of this thread but I think it's structured in a way that will never garner any real responses at all. And at that point, it would be unfair to claim; "See? I told you so."

If you had an auditorium of people would you get a better response if you handed them all a slip of paper and told them to write "yes" or "no" if they suffered from hemorrhoids and the responses quietly collected, OR if you challenged, dared or demanded that they walk up and write their name on a chalkboard on stage?

"Just because they were using a HD" means that they weren't wrongfully sued.

Don't assume that everyone that was sued with a legal library is a member of this forum, either. This is only a small cross section of the Karaoke world.

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Nevermind..... Not worth the bytes 'n bits....

I am going to warn everyone in band as well as some out-of-band -- picking fights will not be tolerated. Think before you post -- the posting privilege you save may be yours.

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[color=#ffff55]Mickey J.[/color]
Alas for those who never sing, but die with all their music in them.
-- Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.

Maybe, maybe not. Some might be able to talk about it, others might not (whether they be not willing or not able to).








You did notice that I wrote the following?....






Mr. Harrington... I realize that my Topic Thread Title reads "Wrongfully sued," but kindly do NOT quote me out of text...

Of all the people on this Board, I have never heard anyone say they were treated badly or that any issue was unresolved by SC. I've heard there have been problems but have been resolved satisfactory in a professional, polite manner. Even Rodney, from reports on here, has no ill-will towards SC after what happened to him.

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I'm sorry that my post came across as brusque. That was unintentional, and now that I read your post again, I see what you are referring to.

Our position is--and has been from the beginning--that playing SC tracks from a hard drive without permission, even if you are 1:1, is still an infringement. If it is an infringement, then the term "wrongfully sued" does not apply. I don't want anyone to get the impression that being sued is wrongful, if you were playing SC from a hard drive without permission but while 1:1.

Maybe it's time to modernize. Little by little other brands are allowing their customers to shift without consequence, some are even allowing downloads. It's time you got with the program.

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I am the ONLY SANE 1 HERE

Then you've never seen a post by Jennifer Price....

I believe a few of the terms she used were not exactly what you'd call "complimentary."

Can I get a Moderator to edit my Title? If you can, please remove the word "Wrongfully" from the title.

Did I say anything about being treated badly or issues being unresolved?




Smoothedge, this topic thread is NOT about that. Stay on topic!

Ask nicely, and maybe I will.

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I am the ONLY SANE 1 HERE

How about: "Hosts with completely legal libraries sued by SC, only to have their suit dropped afterward"?

That should remove any nits that needed picking.

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" Disc based and loving it..."

I sum it up this way -

When I see something more than 1-2% of the lawsuits filed against hosts that should not have been filed then I will start to question if Sound Choice is doing their homework or not.

When someone can point to more than the same small handful people that were wrongfully sued, I will start listening to further arguments against what Sound Choice is doing.

When someone can definitively prove that Sound Choice actions are actually harming the industry AS A WHOLE, then I will begin questioning why Sound Choice is doing what they are doing.

Until, then, I will continue to be Sound Choice's partner in the industry, leverage my good standing with them and the other manufacturers, and grow my business. Those that want to fight against system and complain about how things are instead of taking an active role in helping fix the problem have no one to blame but themselves when the pirates flourish and steamroll their area. Those that secure their own little bubble and watch "safely" from within as other good, hard working people struggle, are as much a part of the problem as the pirates.


-Chris

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-Chris

That's a bit messed up. So either submit to SC and do everything they want or be part of the problem??? So you are now dictating to us what vendor we should use, because they are trying to stop the problem?? REALLY?? And who are you to tell me that the rest of us aren't good hard working people because we do not want to submit to SC rule?? I will tell you this, when the day comes that I start running my show it will be just that, MY SHOW, not SC's show. I will not be a franchise for them, not will I submit to audits and all that crap!! That would be like submitting to audits from Estwing for using their hammers. No thanks!! There is enough GOVERNMENT oversight over us all. I will not put up with VENDOR oversight.

You talk about getting your current gig because of the lawsuits, well guess what, SC has never been in this area. They aren't helping us. They are helping just the bigger cities. They may NEVER get to this area, or any of the other small towns, and you know what, we will manage without them. Karaoke has done well around here for years without SC intervention.

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I am the ONLY SANE 1 HERE

Read my post again.

I state what *I* will do if someone can satisfy 3 conditions
I state what *I* am doing right now, and will continue to do until those conditions are met.
I call out the naysayers and those that watch and do nothing.

From Merriam-Webster:

"retarded - slow or limited in intellectual or emotional development or academic progress"


-Chris

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-Chris