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I believe that part of the audit agreement is agreeing to submit to future audits.

So if you're audited and pass, and are audited again (innocent once not good enough), who pays for the audit? Is it the KJ again? If so, you'd be agreeing to a lifetime of potential continuous probation and extortion.

As far as I know you have to report to them every time you increase your SC collection by 2%.

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None of this probing should be necessary, if you weren't ever proven to be stealing tracks. This is why I don't believe SC can be successful in the future if they sell new music, with the anti-KJ view they appear to have. They feel we are all criminals (shows in their GEM advertising and their agreements) and if we're not guilty yet we will be eventually. This attitude should keep most away from buying any more SC than they already own.

It will keep me away, that's for sure.

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I have had the GEM series for almost two years (Set #1). I have never been audited (paid or otherwise). I have never been called. I have never been visited (and they know where I am, obviously). And I don't expect to be as I am not pirating the music or multi-rigging.

Do not confuse those that are caught, settle and become GEM users with those like me who obtained the GEM set proactively in order to enhance their library. The paranoia around SC is simply amazing to me.

Also do not confuse those that were sued, settled, and certified with those of us that pro-actively certify.

I can't say whether SC has sent anyone to follow up or not, but I can say that I would expect them to. I imagine there are many that certify (by either means) and then start to creep back towards their old ways (in the case of pirates) or simply don't take it seriously enough or fall into temptation (in the case of the pro-active types).

-Chris

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It would seem that kind of confusion is inevitable since the purpose of the Gem set is to offer a settlement option to pirates. Even Soundchoice's own advertising points out that the only reason to aquire the Gem set is to "keep you from having to walk the plank" because the "dog ate my discs".

You are now part of the small minority of Gem users who purchased without being sued.
As the settlements from lawsuits continue to grow, the distinction between those who purchased without legal pressures and those who purchased because they were busted for piracy will diminish.

In the future, it shall be known far and wide that he who displays the blue Soundchoice logo was once a dishonest pirate and probably still is....



See what I mean?

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This is like saying safe driver courses are ONLY for those that have been arrested for drunk driving. Forget those who take it proactively to reduce insurance costs.



A guess on many levels as you have no idea of the numbers. Ass-U-Me, etc.



I can play this game!

"In the future, it shall be known far and wide that all who refuse to play SC songs are pirates attempting to avoid prosecution."

See how that whole "broad brush" thing works?

The difference is of course, that earthling has showed you a prime example of it in the quote from Chris Avis. Your statement above is nothing more than your game.

Besides, just as you have proactively purchased the gems series, why do you automatically paint those who proactively choose to avoid any prosecution as "Pirates?"

Your broad brush has a slight twist in the handle.

Any new music will only be available to GEM owners & certified KJ's from what I understand.

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The sentence that was excluded from my quote is key to the point I was making. Sound Choice's continued monitoring of even those that voluntarily chose an audit should be expected and not be an exception.

People are people and they succumb to temptation.

-Chris

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Where'd that come from?

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My statements, opinions and conclusions are based on my own personal experiences, observations, research and/or just my own $.02. I'm not a "cheerleader", but that doesn't make me a Pirate.

Harrington has alluded to it more than once now.

-Chris

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On this board or another?

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Another.

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I was going to ask the same questions. That doesn't sound very fair to someone like me (who is ODB and un-certified).

By the time the next new release is ready, we will also have the ODB certification program up and running. We're just waiting on the programming on that, by the way.

If customers should be expected to be monitored like criminals then they shouldn't reasonably expect to have any customers.

Funny thing...I worked for GE for a number of years and software vendors monitored them (via on-site audits)as they knew that large companies often "over install" software....GE did not feel like they were being treated as criminals....they understood that the actions of others made it necessary for the vendors to double check. GE was a multi-billion dollar company....here we have single operators and small multi-op companies complaining of the same type of monitoring. Does this seem strange to anyone else here?

Just saying
Athena

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One would think that a huge company NEEDS to be watched, not a one person company. NOTHING excuses the behavior of Sound Choice.

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