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new ruling in a Florida Middle District case. And some real surprises

Don't make it sound like some earth-shattering precedent when it's a simply another default judgement. (Whoopie-F/N-do)

Yes Chip it was one of many DEFAULT cases SC has won. Why? Because the DEFENADANTS failed to appear. Why did they fail to appear? I daresay they knew they didn't have a case, otherwise they would have fought.

The reason that MOST of those charged do not answer the court is because they cant prove they own the music they were playing. I suspect MOST have also listened to bottom feeding TROLLS that have advised many to just ignore the lawsuits as "SC will never take a case all the way" and then changed their advise to "just don't use SC"

timberlea wrote:

Sounds like you're describing the similar DEFAULT case Cavs won against the "pirate manufacturer" Chartbuster Karaoke.... remember them? The same ones that didn't bother to respond.. and why? Because to use your words; "they didn't have a case, otherwise they would have fought." And they suckered how many KJ's into believing they were legitimate? Even going as far as "certifying" them?.....

It is to laugh.

earthling....read back on this forum and you will find those statements...also you can check other websites and forums as well. As it is not polite to post other sites PM me and I can give you sites to look at. If I have time I will go back to posts here when I first joined and point you to posts telling people to ignore the lawsuits and posts advising people to erase HD's if caught. Unfortunately "the other karaoke forum" was "scrubbed" when it changed hands so the screenshots I have from it can not be verified. But there are other websites where you can still see for yourself

you may wish to start reading with "the 411 0n letters of intent" thread and see how many falsehoods have been disproved.

c. staley wrote:

timberlea wrote:

The entity that CAVS sued was defunct at the time the suit was filed. So try again.

Author:	kjathena [ Mon Sep 03, 2012 10:34 pm ]
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new ruling in a Florida Middle District case. And some real surprises. http://www.pdf-archive.com/2012/09/04/s ... f-schenck/ discuss

Author:	karaokegod73 [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 2:09 am ]
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Did they have any disks? You didn't spell scary or expensive properly.

Author:	Paradigm Karaoke [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 2:30 am ]
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doesn't sound like they had any discs. nail 'em to the wall.

Author:	c. staley [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:38 am ]
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kjathena wrote: new ruling in a Florida Middle District case. And some real surprises Sure.... first of all, your desire/desperation to turn nothing into something, is amazing. It is an amended DEFAULT judgement, not a "new ruling." If it was anything worth mentioning at all, HarringtonLaw would have been the first to toot his own horn. Don't make it sound like some earth-shattering precedent when it's a simply another default judgement. (Whoopie-F/N-do) You are talking about a company whose sole business model is to sue $100/night (or less) Karaoke Jockeys for "piracy" when they -- themselves -- have a legal history of being sued by publishers for copyright infringement (a.k.a. "piracy"). When that doesn't work, they sue the clubs who really don't know the difference (or even care) because they might happen to have a pocket -- not a deep one -- or an insurance policy. Especially their cronies - Piracy Recovery, LLC - who has never produced a track, never sold a track, never did anything other than sue for many of the tracks that had no business (or license) being made in the first place. Nothing more than bottom-feeding-trolls. It's a pretty sad existence if you ask me. I'd be embarrassed as h*ll if that was the only way I could make a living. A meter-maid has a much more honorable profession.

Author:	timberlea [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:47 am ]
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Yes Chip it was one of many DEFAULT cases SC has won. Why? Because the DEFENADANTS failed to appear. Why did they fail to appear? I daresay they knew they didn't have a case, otherwise they would have fought.

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Author:	JimHarrington [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 6:38 am ]
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c. staley wrote: Don't make it sound like some earth-shattering precedent when it's a simply another default judgement. (Whoopie-F/N-do) It was amended because the judge held an evidentiary hearing to help him decide what the proper damage award should be. It's not everything, but it's not nothing, either.

Author:	dave [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:41 am ]
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Even if that default judgement is meaningless--it is just priceless the look on a pirates face when they see that 44,000 dollar award. It is fun having copies of that. Thanks Athena

Author:	kjathena [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:38 am ]
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personally I think the order for the marshals to seize the drives if not turned over (and the pirates being charged for the seizure) is almost better than the amount of the award being increased by more than 4 times the original award. At least this judge finally gets it and is putting some teeth behind his awards. The reason that MOST of those charged do not answer the court is because they cant prove they own the music they were playing. I suspect MOST have also listened to bottom feeding TROLLS that have advised many to just ignore the lawsuits as "SC will never take a case all the way" and then changed their advise to "just don't use SC" Double check ANY suggestion listed on any forum of board or be willing to pay the costs. And yes I am a bad speller

Author:	jdmeister [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:46 am ]
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Firefox browser has spell check built in..

Author:	kjathena [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:02 am ]
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yes JD and I do try and use it for most posts...I was just excited to post this and did not check I thought proper spelling was not a requirement of the forum has this changed ?

Author:	c. staley [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:10 am ]
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timberlea wrote: Yes Chip it was one of many DEFAULT cases SC has won. Why? Because the DEFENADANTS failed to appear. Why did they fail to appear? I daresay they knew they didn't have a case, otherwise they would have fought. Sounds like you're describing the similar DEFAULT case Cavs won against the "pirate manufacturer" Chartbuster Karaoke.... remember them? The same ones that didn't bother to respond.. and why? Because to use your words; "they didn't have a case, otherwise they would have fought." And they suckered how many KJ's into believing they were legitimate? Even going as far as "certifying" them?..... It is to laugh.

Author:	earthling12357 [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:03 am ]
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kjathena wrote: The reason that MOST of those charged do not answer the court is because they cant prove they own the music they were playing. I suspect MOST have also listened to bottom feeding TROLLS that have advised many to just ignore the lawsuits as "SC will never take a case all the way" and then changed their advise to "just don't use SC" I have never seen, nor have I been able to locate any instance anywhere of anyone suggesting a lawsuit be ignored. I don't believe there is any basis in fact for that statement.

Author:	JimHarrington [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:07 am ]
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c. staley wrote: timberlea wrote: Yes Chip it was one of many DEFAULT cases SC has won. Why? Because the DEFENADANTS failed to appear. Why did they fail to appear? I daresay they knew they didn't have a case, otherwise they would have fought. Sounds like you're describing the similar DEFAULT case Cavs won against the "pirate manufacturer" Chartbuster Karaoke.... remember them? The same ones that didn't bother to respond.. and why? Because to use your words; "they didn't have a case, otherwise they would have fought." And they suckered how many KJ's into believing they were legitimate? Even going as far as "certifying" them?..... It is to laugh. The entity that CAVS sued was defunct at the time the suit was filed. So try again.

Author:	kjathena [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:14 am ]
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earthling....read back on this forum and you will find those statements...also you can check other websites and forums as well. As it is not polite to post other sites PM me and I can give you sites to look at. If I have time I will go back to posts here when I first joined and point you to posts telling people to ignore the lawsuits and posts advising people to erase HD's if caught. Unfortunately "the other karaoke forum" was "scrubbed" when it changed hands so the screenshots I have from it can not be verified. But there are other websites where you can still see for yourself

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Author:	kjathena [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:46 am ]
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you may wish to start reading with "the 411 0n letters of intent" thread and see how many falsehoods have been disproved. I will look deeper as I have time. Off to an appointment right now. You may wish to check the threads I posted on when I first came to this site back in 2009 or 2010....you will find the info. I will not post other sites here as I do not wish to be banned

Author:	Second City Song [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:46 pm ]
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kjathena wrote: you may wish to start reading with "the 411 0n letters of intent" thread and see how many falsehoods have been disproved. Thanks Athena. Many who posted in that thread, including the OP, has been proven wrong in many of their posts if one looks in hindsight. viewtopic.php?f=26&t=20238

Author:	earthling12357 [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:01 pm ]
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So, where's the quote in that thread from someone who advocates ignoring a lawsuit? It does not exist.

Author:	c. staley [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:37 pm ]
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HarringtonLaw wrote: c. staley wrote: timberlea wrote: Yes Chip it was one of many DEFAULT cases SC has won. Why? Because the DEFENADANTS failed to appear. Why did they fail to appear? I daresay they knew they didn't have a case, otherwise they would have fought. Sounds like you're describing the similar DEFAULT case Cavs won against the "pirate manufacturer" Chartbuster Karaoke.... remember them? The same ones that didn't bother to respond.. and why? Because to use your words; "they didn't have a case, otherwise they would have fought." And they suckered how many KJ's into believing they were legitimate? Even going as far as "certifying" them?..... It is to laugh. The entity that CAVS sued was defunct at the time the suit was filed. So try again. Again a load of pure misinformation from HarringtonLaw. Tennessee Production Center was sued in October 18, 2011 - case 2:11-cv-08612, still "certifying" KJs, still selling hard drives, announced early this year that there was "big news that would change the way you thought about karaoke".... and didn't even stop distributing until MAY 10, 2012. And just like the pirates in the default judgment above, Tennessee Production Center hid their assets and disappeared like a cockroach when you turn the light on... If you expect the readership here to allow you any credibility, you need to stop misleading them.