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This is stictly a word of mouth rumor I heard today, and was wondering if anyone knows anything:

What I heard was that a Class Action suit was filed sometime last week against SC by KJs and home users. It supposedly had something to do with their being in receipt of product sold by SC without permission/licensing. It sounded more like an EMI suit than the type KJs/home users would file.

What little I heard was lacking in detail, and I have no idea what the grounds of the suit may have been. I have yet to find it on line.

Does anyone else have any information in this regard?

Thanks in advance for any help.

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I heard several stories circulated by the cheerleaders as well that later turned out to be baloney. Yet they are free to spout the misinformation and generate fear.There seems to be no end to their boogie men as well. That is why anything you read on these forums has to be taken with a large dose of salt. All have their own reasons to spin the information, especially James. Have a nice day.

THINK for a minute. Can you guys do that?

If there really was a Class Action Lawsuit...don't you think it would be ALL OVER this forum? C'mon...there would be 20 page threads by now. We get practically daily updates about every SC lawsuit, but the BIGGEST lawsuit ever from potentially hundreds of KJ's is a deep, dark mystery?

I mean really. Are we just making things up now to fit our agenda?

I agree Bazza there is too much unfounded speculation on both sides. Still I think it is legit to come on and seek information if it is available. However the person seeking the information should always consider the source, and what the motives might be of the suppliers of the information. Have a blessed day.

After an extensive search......this is all I can find on it...
viewtopic.php?f=26&t=27324

if it's on the internet it must be true, they can't put anything on the internet that's not true!

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Somebody told somebody I know that I should listen to this Joe guy.

Now?

For the record, I have never posted anything on this board that wasn't true, unlike some people. My philosophy of public relations is that honesty is the best policy. So we talk about the good and the bad.

I have no idea whether anyone has filed a class action suit against SC or not. I doubt anyone could produce a cognizable, truth-based claim on the theory Joe suggests. The motivation to bring such a suit would be not to recover anything but to damage SC, so the most likely outcome is that they will end up paying our attorney fees. But if it happens, it happens, and we'll defend it.

and if the outcome goes the other way, then SC will be paying more than attorney fee's.

i just hate how harrington law is so one sided... but of course what do you expect as they are being paid by SC....

and as I've always said:
remember harrington law works in the best intrest of SC, not ours (the host)!

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"and as I've always said:
remember harrington law works in the best interest of SC, not ours (the host)!"

Well duh. When I hire an attorney they work for me, no else in the case. So what. He has given info on what cases have done (good or bad), and remember he doesn't have to. And what may be in the best interest of you may not be for me or Lonnie or Cue or anyone else. And he has agreed on some things that should be done that are out of his hands and he is fighting for his client, as an attorney with integrity should do.

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Bonjour ......I'm a French model.....

I was going to just let this go, but with all the discussions in here over the challenges of this entire situation, I thought I would share something that is 100% undisputable fact. First, the background:






I have been in contact with a GEM Series user who has verified that they have taken the time to view the first three discs, numbered 10001-10003, and the percentage of tracks with the blue "Pro" logo is:

0% (ZERO PERCENT)

I would, of course, encourage any GEM users on this forum to verify these results. Then, process these points of FACT as you wish. I am not going to expound on this observation in a personal way, since that would be unproductive. However, is it a stretch of the imagination that the integrity of one's position could be put into question, considering the facts and the veracity of such a position as claiming to "never" make any false statements on this forum?

Excuse me, but.......he is a lawyer.......

I don't believe you have posted something that is "100% undisputable fact."

You have posted a statement from an unnamed person, allegedly a GEM licensee, who claims that none of the tracks on the first three discs in the series have the blue logo.

I'm not at my office today, so I can't verify what this person has said. I also can't look at his discs to see if there was some defect in his set. When I am able to examine those discs, I will come back and respond to this. If I was wrong before, I will issue a correction and an apology.

"I have been in contact with a GEM Series user"

Is that the same as I have been in contact with an Ancient Astronaut Theorist. Or a friend of a friend. Perhaps this early user got an earlier or defective product. It happens and so what. If your friend doesn't like it, I'm sure SC will replace, just like most companies will replace or repair defective products. Again, it seems there is a lot of mountain building out of mole hills.

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I just pulled up my GEM series and the percentage of tracks with the Blue Sound Choice Pro Series Logo is....... 100%......That's 90 tracks. It took all of 5 mins to verify.

-Chris

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Just curious: Were they tracks from the discs numbered 10001-10003?

As an attempt to make my findings more authentic, it was also mentioned to me that the first "Blue Pro" logo that was encountered was on Disc 10004, Track 1, after which they ran into a few more non-"Blue Pro" logos, and then decided not to spend any more time on it or whatever.

Some of the responses to this are, shall we just say, interesting. But surely it is recognized that one's perspective on the importance of a subject shouldn't be used as a deflection from the position that one should take care in what amount to claiming infallibility--about ANY subject.

That point will be conceded. I suppose it is commonly accepted to be an undisputable fact until at least one other person confirms this, for all intents and purposes, which is why I put out a request for a second person with a GEM series to confirm these findings from the first three discs (10001-10003).

It seems that if even this small sampling is to be considered a "defect", it would have to be a fairly extreme stretch. I do not pretend to be an expert on disc creation/duplication, but if there are any stipulations on how these are created, and there are any significant differences in sets of discs out there, there could be a problem. If disc sets are made from different masters, whatever the source, and they contain different material, I am just not sure in how that works in conjunction with licenses to duplicate and distribute and the like.

PLEASE...I implore you all...my interjection here is merely an attempt to spur trains of thought about the different avenues involved in all of this. I do not wish to appear as a
"cheerleader" in either direction, so I trust folks will avoid labeling me in either direction. I just have always felt that the instigator of situations such as all this have a certain standard they should be held to, and having a "think tank" such as this can be beneficial to all involved.