I can see where DTE should be auditing their own brand, shouldn't CB auditing be done by WWD/PR, since they are the ones filing suits on questionable old CB product?
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| Author: | gretchen [ Mon Jul 15, 2013 7:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | CB and DigiTrax Certifications |
Hello All! I know that some of you don't care to hear about this but, we are going to start an audit process for all that are interested. It will take about a month to get up an running. We will be putting a website together that lists all of the Certified CB and DigiTrax KJs. If this is something you would be interested in please PM me or send me an email. If this is something you would NOT be interested in please no negativity. We are getting A LOT of requests for audits so we are working on putting that new program in place right now. -Gretcjem |
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| Author: | kjathena [ Mon Jul 15, 2013 7:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CB and DigiTrax Certifications |
YIPEEE...yes interested but boy will it be alot of work as we haven't even finished processing all the "close out" discs we purchased. |
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| Author: | Smoothedge69 [ Mon Jul 15, 2013 7:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CB and DigiTrax Certifications |
Hey Gretchen, do I need to certify my Dave Matthews disc?? How long with the new certifications be good for?? Personally, I think yearly audits are a bit much. Will those of us that download from DTE have to certify, or do you know who owns those tracks?? Thanks. |
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| Author: | gretchen [ Mon Jul 15, 2013 7:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CB and DigiTrax Certifications |
Smoothedge69 wrote: Hey Gretchen, do I need to certify my Dave Matthews disc?? How long with the new certifications be good for?? Personally, I think yearly audits are a bit much. Will those of us that download from DTE have to certify, or do you know who owns those tracks?? Thanks. Smooth, The choice of if you want to do the audit is up to you. We are not strong arming anyone into getting Certified. It is for peace of mind. Your one CB disc is fine. If you would like to certify your DTE tracks we can do that. We cannot certify any other manus other than the CB and DTE brands. If you have any other questions please let me know. -Gretchen |
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| Author: | Smoothedge69 [ Mon Jul 15, 2013 7:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CB and DigiTrax Certifications |
gretchen wrote: Smoothedge69 wrote: Hey Gretchen, do I need to certify my Dave Matthews disc?? How long with the new certifications be good for?? Personally, I think yearly audits are a bit much. Will those of us that download from DTE have to certify, or do you know who owns those tracks?? Thanks. Smooth, The choice of if you want to do the audit is up to you. We are not strong arming anyone into getting Certified. It is for peace of mind. Your one CB disc is fine. If you would like to certify your DTE tracks we can do that. We cannot certify any other manus other than the CB and DTE brands. If you have any other questions please let me know. -Gretchen Do you guys still hold Sweet Georgia Brown?? Am I in any danger if my Dave Matthews disc is on my computer? |
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| Author: | The Lone Ranger [ Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CB and DigiTrax Certifications |
| I can see where DTE should be auditing their own brand, shouldn't CB auditing be done by WWD/PR, since they are the ones filing suits on questionable old CB product?
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| Author: | mightywiz [ Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CB and DigiTrax Certifications |
The Lone Ranger wrote: 8) I can see where DTE should be auditing their own brand, shouldn't CB auditing be done by WWD/PR, since they are the ones filing suits on questionable old CB product? do you still really think that DTE & PR LLC are different entities? must not be if DTE can offer the audit for the CB disc's. that aside, I would be interested in getting a certification of my CB disc's only got about 400 or so... |
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| Author: | gretchen [ Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CB and DigiTrax Certifications |
Smooth, As long as you are complying with the 1:1 ratio you are fine. I work hand in hand with PR. They are a separate company. Both DTE and PR have hired someone to take care of the Audits for them since they are so lengthy. Since I am familiar with both CB and DTE they asked me to get the word out there and help with the auditor any way that I could. -Gretchen |
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| Author: | gretchen [ Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CB and DigiTrax Certifications |
Oh, and no we do not own Sweet Georgia Brown. |
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| Author: | kjathena [ Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CB and DigiTrax Certifications |
As far as that goes...all it would take is a contract signed by those who own the rights to have anyone do audits....all the Manus (SC,CB new PR, Stellar, SF,Zoom and even Pioneer,JVC and MM et al ) could have a central agent do audits IF they could all agree on the details. |
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| Author: | Smoothedge69 [ Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CB and DigiTrax Certifications |
kjathena wrote: As far as that goes...all it would take is a contract signed by those who own the rights to have anyone do audits....all the Manus (SC,CB new PR, Stellar, SF,Zoom and even Pioneer,JVC and MM et al ) could have a central agent do audits IF they could all agree on the details. Athena, STOP pushing to have everyone do audits. Idon't want to be plagued by yearly audits, thank you!!! |
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| Author: | Smoothedge69 [ Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CB and DigiTrax Certifications |
gretchen wrote: Smooth, As long as you are complying with the 1:1 ratio you are fine. I work hand in hand with PR. They are a separate company. Both DTE and PR have hired someone to take care of the Audits for them since they are so lengthy. Since I am familiar with both CB and DTE they asked me to get the word out there and help with the auditor any way that I could. -Gretchen Thanks, Gretchen. |
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| Author: | JoeChartreuse [ Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CB and DigiTrax Certifications |
Smoothedge69 wrote: [Do you guys still hold Sweet Georgia Brown?? Am I in any danger if my Dave Matthews disc is on my computer? Smooth, they never held SGB, as Gretchen has mentioned here. That was just a rumor started here on the forum. As for the audit itself, while I have no need of it, I see no problem with it as long as one is not required to sign documentaion similar to the life/business/legal give away that SC requires, and that the audit is completely VOLUNTARY- that is, no use of PR to push it. Under those two conditions, I figure whatever makes the KJ happy..... |
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| Author: | Smoothedge69 [ Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CB and DigiTrax Certifications |
JoeChartreuse wrote: Smoothedge69 wrote: [Do you guys still hold Sweet Georgia Brown?? Am I in any danger if my Dave Matthews disc is on my computer? Smooth, they never held SGB, as Gretchen has mentioned here. That was just a rumor started here on the forum. As for the audit itself, while I have no need of it, I see no problem with it as long as one is not required to sign documentaion similar to the life/business/legal give away that SC requires, and that the audit is completely VOLUNTARY- that is, no use of PR to push it. Under those two conditions, I figure whatever makes the KJ happy..... As of April 3, 2012, I got an e-mail from Gretchen answering my question about ripping SGB, and their ownership of it. At that point they DID own it. "Bobby, Sorry I am just now getting back to you. You can put the SGB discs on your lap top as long as you keep the discs. We allow a one to one ratio for discs and digital systems. As far as the KJMP, there are no requirements needed to start with that program. You just need the compuhost software, and the KJMP and you are good to go. If there is anything else I can help you with please let me know. Thanks, Gretchen" |
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| Author: | kjathena [ Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CB and DigiTrax Certifications |
Smoothedge69 wrote: kjathena wrote: As far as that goes...all it would take is a contract signed by those who own the rights to have anyone do audits....all the Manus (SC,CB new PR, Stellar, SF,Zoom and even Pioneer,JVC and MM et al ) could have a central agent do audits IF they could all agree on the details. .Athena, STOP pushing to have everyone do audits. Idon't want to be plagued by yearly audits, thank you!!! Smoothedge, Until another method is developed(that works) I see no option to audits is the only way and yes I do feel ALL manus should have an audit process. That is the only way I see to rid this industry of those who STEAL and cause harm to all involved. |
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| Author: | Smoothedge69 [ Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CB and DigiTrax Certifications |
kjathena wrote: Smoothedge69 wrote: kjathena wrote: As far as that goes...all it would take is a contract signed by those who own the rights to have anyone do audits....all the Manus (SC,CB new PR, Stellar, SF,Zoom and even Pioneer,JVC and MM et al ) could have a central agent do audits IF they could all agree on the details. .Athena, STOP pushing to have everyone do audits. Idon't want to be plagued by yearly audits, thank you!!! Smoothedge, Until another method is developed I see (that works) no option to audits is the only way and yes I do feel ALL manus should have an audit process. That is the only way I see to rid this industry of those who STEAL and cause harm to all involved. I'm not going to spend $100 something dollars a year for that inconvenience. Sorry, but it's a waste of money. I don't need an audit to do the right thing. |
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| Author: | kjathena [ Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CB and DigiTrax Certifications |
Smoothedge, I have no reason to think you do.....but the majority do. You, yourself at one point were ready to just buy a HD and you changed your mind after finding out why you shouldnt and what could happen if you did. I agree it is not fair to have to pay for others actions.  I do not like having to remove my shoes and wait in horrid lines when I fly either, just because others have committed acts of terrorism 
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| Author: | gretchen [ Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CB and DigiTrax Certifications |
As of April 3, 2012, I got an e-mail from Gretchen answering my question about ripping SGB, and their ownership of it. At that point they DID own it. "Bobby, Sorry I am just now getting back to you. You can put the SGB discs on your lap top as long as you keep the discs. We allow a one to one ratio for discs and digital systems. As far as the KJMP, there are no requirements needed to start with that program. You just need the compuhost software, and the KJMP and you are good to go. If there is anything else I can help you with please let me know. Thanks, Gretchen"[/quote] I was told by the former owner of CB that they did in fact own SGB. It turns out that is NOT the case. DTE does NOT own SGB. When CB went under I investigated further. I apologize for all of the confusion. |
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| Author: | Smoothedge69 [ Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CB and DigiTrax Certifications |
gretchen wrote: As of April 3, 2012, I got an e-mail from Gretchen answering my question about ripping SGB, and their ownership of it. At that point they DID own it. "Bobby, Sorry I am just now getting back to you. You can put the SGB discs on your lap top as long as you keep the discs. We allow a one to one ratio for discs and digital systems. As far as the KJMP, there are no requirements needed to start with that program. You just need the compuhost software, and the KJMP and you are good to go. If there is anything else I can help you with please let me know. Thanks, Gretchen" I was told by the former owner of CB that they did in fact own SGB. It turns out that is NOT the case. DTE does NOT own SGB. When CB went under I investigated further. I apologize for all of the confusion.[/quote]  > Oh, ok. Thanks for the clarification, Gretchen. WOW. .
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| Author: | The Lone Ranger [ Mon Jul 15, 2013 1:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CB and DigiTrax Certifications |
| Say it ain't so smooth CB didn't lie to you and Gretchen, did they? What bothers me about this audit process is that it would seem that an outside agency will be conducting the audits on behalf of DTE/CB/WWD/PR, rather than keeping in house. This reminds me of APS fiasco where you hire an outside company to do something for you. I would hope that there would be proper oversight for this auditing, and the hired auditors would be following certain guidelines. By the time this system is in place I really won't need one.
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