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Author:  JoeChartreuse [ Sat Feb 28, 2015 10:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: what happened to Harringtonlaw's post

I believe that thread disappeared right after I brought Jim's partnership in PEP to light. Don't know if that or your post had anything to do with it. Jim may simply have requested it's removal himself.

Author:  KarenB [ Sun Mar 01, 2015 3:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: what happened to Harringtonlaw's post

There seems to be a couple of threads missing plus a couple that are locked all of a sudden.

Author:  JimHarrington [ Sun Mar 01, 2015 5:33 am ]
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I did not request the removal of the thread and was surprised to see it gone.

Author:  jdmeister [ Sun Mar 01, 2015 8:10 am ]
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Sadly, the site administration (Owner) decided those threads were unpaid advertisements.

Per site administration instructions, they where locked and moved to a holding area.

<---The left side of every web page has a list of paying advertisers.

We ask that you support them whenever you can.

Anyone wishing to become a paying advertiser can PM Phill Cross or email (webmaster@karaokescene.com) for instructions and rates.

Thank you for your support.

Author:  chrisavis [ Sun Mar 01, 2015 8:35 am ]
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Wow.....

I suggest that by removing the post, the site loses revenue since fewer people will see the ads that would have been displayed if the post were there.

Of course I use AdBlock Plus so I haven't see ads on any site in years.

Author:  jdmeister [ Sun Mar 01, 2015 9:00 am ]
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True up to a point, however, advertisements normally require approval of the owner, and an agreement on rates.
Not fair to paying customers, eh?

Author:  leopard lizard [ Sun Mar 01, 2015 9:26 am ]
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Is this to be a new across the board policy? I'm thinking of other threads such as the one where the new owners of Pocket Songs announced the return of that company. There were also a lot of threads where Gretchen used to answer questions about DTE. On the one hand, I could see how other advertisers might want the new Pocket Songs to pay for an ad and make their announcement that w. But on the other, many of these threads have to do with policy changes that are being clarified via question and answer. The Gem thread seemed to be more along that line, especially as it was a response to accusations made about the product.

We get a lot of information by having manufacturers on the forum and I would hate to lose that. If someone were to start a thread about a specific brand of mixer and the manufacturer chimed in then would that post be deleted as an advertisement or would it only be deleted if it was the manufacturer who started the thread? What about the people announcing their new songbook services or asking for beta testers? It seems like this will be a fine line between being fair and us losing information--especially as up to now, the other advertisers were free to join the forum and chime in on threads.

Author:  Insane KJ [ Sun Mar 01, 2015 11:43 am ]
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Then this thread should be removed as well, even if it is a FREE OFFER.

It is still advertising a service.

viewtopic.php?f=26&t=31399

EDIT: I apologize for referring the linked thread above as spam. I see mckyj57's point below. Thank you.

Author:  mckyj57 [ Sun Mar 01, 2015 12:10 pm ]
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Insane KJ wrote:
Then this thread should be removed as well, even if it is a FREE OFFER.

It is still advertising a service.

viewtopic.php?f=26&t=31399

You are quite tiresome at times.

There are lines to walk. When one company's discussions are dominating a forum, and specific information tending to promote their product is posted by a company representative, I can see that a line has been crossed. Yes, people want to discuss some things. I suggest you go right ahead; no one is suggesting that you can't start a new thread.

Author:  Paradigm Karaoke [ Sun Mar 01, 2015 7:25 pm ]
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Insane KJ wrote:
Then this thread should be removed as well, even if it is a FREE OFFER.

It is still advertising a service.

viewtopic.php?f=26&t=31399

again....the adults are discussing business here, i'm sure your boss has things for you to do.

Author:  Insane KJ [ Mon Mar 02, 2015 12:03 am ]
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mckyj57 wrote:
Insane KJ wrote:
Then this thread should be removed as well, even if it is a FREE OFFER.

It is still advertising a service.

viewtopic.php?f=26&t=31399

You are quite tiresome at times.

There are lines to walk. When one company's discussions are dominating a forum, and specific information tending to promote their product is posted by a company representative, I can see that a line has been crossed. Yes, people want to discuss some things. I suggest you go right ahead; no one is suggesting that you can't start a new thread.


You are quite correct and I see your point. My apologies.

I have taken your suggestion and created a new thread here.

viewtopic.php?f=26&t=31413

Thank you.

Author:  Insane KJ [ Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:51 am ]
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Insane KJ wrote:
mckyj57 wrote:
Insane KJ wrote:
Then this thread should be removed as well, even if it is a FREE OFFER.

It is still advertising a service.

viewtopic.php?f=26&t=31399

You are quite tiresome at times.

There are lines to walk. When one company's discussions are dominating a forum, and specific information tending to promote their product is posted by a company representative, I can see that a line has been crossed. Yes, people want to discuss some things. I suggest you go right ahead; no one is suggesting that you can't start a new thread.


You are quite correct and I see your point. My apologies.

I have taken your suggestion and created a new thread here.

viewtopic.php?f=26&t=31413

Thank you.


The new thread I created was removed due to that I placed a link to the PEP site. The administrators have told me in PM this is not allowed.

If people want any information on how to reach that site for info on getting permission to make authorized copies of SC discs, you can google 'Phoenix Entertainment Partners'.

Thank you.

Author:  Smoothedge69 [ Mon Mar 02, 2015 3:24 pm ]
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That should tell Harrington and Kurt something. People are so sick of them and their way of doing business that NOW they can't even post about that business here, of all places. I think many people are tired of SC trying to get money for nothing. The new HELP program is just that. It is money for nothing. They aren't providing any content. You can get your songs from any source, including torrents. The program doesn't include any new material, whether this is ever any or not. So, all you get is "protection" from lawsuits. That is money for nothing. People are tired of it. They WERE a great Karaoke company, in their day, and for the time they were producing music. That time is long passed, and they have been surpassed by quite a few other companies, both in content, AND quality. AND, NO other company, except PRLLC, is looking to make money for nothing.

Author:  JoeChartreuse [ Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:34 am ]
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bazinga wrote:
James made a statement of guarantee that the KJs who paid for the GEM set will be guaranteed not to lose their money should a recall be in order..


Not quite. He made a claim for that guarantee ONLY for KJs who become GEM renters SINCE THE INCEPTION OF Phoenix Entertainment.


Anyone who paid to use GEMS from SLEP-TONE is not covered his statement. In other words, the BEST customers are the ones that might get stuck.

Example: I believe DannyG2006 was the very first too have enough faith and loyalty to the SC brand to pay for the use of GEMS. He's not covered- at leastnot by what Jim posted.

Author:  Cueball [ Tue Mar 03, 2015 1:47 am ]
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JoeChartreuse wrote:
Not quite. He made a claim for that guarantee ONLY for KJs who become GEM renters SINCE THE INCEPTION OF Phoenix Entertainment.
Not quite... He stipulated you had to have purchased the GEM series on or after 2/25/2015.

Author:  Bazza [ Tue Mar 03, 2015 9:59 am ]
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(SIGH)

I've been hearing this line for the last 4.5 years. And as I have said every time someone cries "THEY WILL TAKE THEM AWAY!", I will be the first to eat crow and let you know what I get a knock on my door demanding my GEM set back.

Don't hold your breath....

Author:  MtnKaraoke [ Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:12 am ]
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I believe our "fact fabricator" is on temporary leave, but I will point out that Bazza's avatar shows the "very first too have enough faith and loyalty to the SC brand to pay for the use of GEMS."

I also acquired my GEM before DannyG.

I have a satisfactory business relationship with SC and as a no-charge certified KJ and GEM licensee I don't have anything to fear except fear itself... and maybe people who don't check their facts.

Author:  Cueball [ Tue Mar 10, 2015 1:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: what happened to Harringtonlaw's post

bazinga wrote:
OK it's coming up on 5 days and James, you have still not commented on my questions. You seem to be very selective about what you comment on. :roll:
Have you tried dropping him a PM to ask him to reply?

Author:  JimHarrington [ Tue Mar 10, 2015 9:44 am ]
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bazinga wrote:
James - I was just asking you if SC/PEP will include on the GEM Series Agreement what you stated on this forum as far as the reimbursement is concerned if the GEM is recalled.


Yes, it is being added to new GEM Series agreements entered into after February 25, 2015.

bazinga wrote:
James I also wanted to hear your comment on SC's video and "they" actually saying it's ok to email and share the karaoke songs to friends and relatives on this post:

viewtopic.php?f=26&t=31367


My only comment is to say that 100% of our anti-piracy efforts have been focused on commercial activities. Emailing a friend or relative a recording of you singing does not strike me as a commercial activity.

Author:  JimHarrington [ Wed Mar 11, 2015 4:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: what happened to Harringtonlaw's post

bazinga wrote:
HarringtonLaw wrote:
bazinga wrote:
James - I was just asking you if SC/PEP will include on the GEM Series Agreement what you stated on this forum as far as the reimbursement is concerned if the GEM is recalled.


Yes, it is being added to new GEM Series agreements entered into after February 25, 2015.

bazinga wrote:
James I also wanted to hear your comment on SC's video and "they" actually saying it's ok to email and share the karaoke songs to friends and relatives on this post:

viewtopic.php?f=26&t=31367


My only comment is to say that 100% of our anti-piracy efforts have been focused on commercial activities. Emailing a friend or relative a recording of you singing does not strike me as a commercial activity.

It says to email the song, because according to the video that SC made the song is a digital format that can be easily shared. If I remember correctly it made no reference to a recording of yourself.


You don't remember correctly. It specifically says "record your performances" just before it talks about emailing the recordings. Again, emailing a recording of your performance to family and friends is not a commercial activity.

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