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leopard lizard
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Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 8:54 am |
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I'm interested if it is something I can do with a slow and rationed internet connection (satellite).
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GeminiMALE40
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Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:03 pm |
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Bastiat wrote: Gemini – perhaps you should reread the post. I thought that the post was very clear in stating that we are seeking “beta testers” and not seeking opinions as to what you think this product is or is not. I have clearly stated that if you are interested in becoming a beta tester to post. Meaning that if you are not interested, then don’t post. Also as a result of previous posts that you’ve made, it is obvious to me at least that you are a person with some very strong opinions. That in itself does not make you a bad person but it does render you as an unsuitable candidate for being a beta tester. Before I even posted this request I had already determined that there were a few posters (none of whom other than yourself who have posted thus far) who would not be a good fit for us as beta testers and you were amongst that group of posters. Of course I’m sure you’re fine with that seeing that you aren’t interested to begin with.
The whole point of beta testing a product is to analyze the product from different perspectives and viewpoints, points of view that the developer may not have ever considered, overlooked or thought of. The developer is trying to understand what is good and what is bad about a product from an outside point of view before he/she brings it to market. For example, a seasoned KJ will see products in ways that I never could or would have, and could make suggestions that could ultimately be responsible for making or breaking a product. Even if this were an “audio” product as you’ve assumed it to be but which it is not, the idea behind beta testing is to get people to test the product and get their opinion as to how it might work in certain scenarios. In other words pointing out all of the positives and the negatives and offering ideas that could be helpful in mitigating some of the negatives.
What a beta test program is not is a venue courting individuals to dismiss the product without even knowing what it is or any of its details. With that being said the type of person that we are seeking to beta test this product is the type of person that is willing to think outside of the box and try something new or different. These are the early adopters who in the end are well rewarded for their risks and/or efforts as opposed to the naysayers of the world who are afraid to step out of their comfort zone. The product that we will be testing is different from anything anyone has ever seen in the karaoke world, but it is going to require a certain skill set that some KJs may already have or in the absence of these skills, will need to acquire. A possible peripheral benefit to KJs could be that it may help reduce some of the $50 per night KJ competition with an illegal hard drive by being able to provide a service that they can’t. Ultimately, this product could end up separating the men from the boys and providing the patrons with a karaoke experience unlike anything they've witnessed to date at the hands of a knowledgeable and experienced KJ.
Nevertheless you should feel a great deal of comfort from the fact that you are not alone in your way of thinking. When we were first pitching the Top Hits Monthly line back in the summer of 1995 to dealers and distributors it was met with much resistance, naysaying and negativity. They all said that the karaoke market had no place for current releases and that the market was made up of largely Elvis wannabes, Patsy Cline clones and the like. It was a time when there was still a measurable resistance to the CD+G format as there was still a fairly large contingent of KJs who were using Pioneer laser discs that disliked the CD+G format. Well I think that history speaks for itself and shows that there were many KJs who thought more like we did rather than that of the dealers.
So with that being said, please refrain from further comment on this topic as this post's only purpose is to seek out those who wish to become beta testers and nothing else. You are always free of course to make your views and opinions known elsewhere on this forum. I was only passing along inform I was given..If it is wrong then im sorry but that what I was told ..not my fault. As far as being a tester..I have done beta testig for several projects..and enjoy it..I wouldnt mind helping out.. Also I don't know why PHM is coming out with a new product when they should worry more about putting out better songs..just a thought not being rude
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MtnKaraoke
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Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 1:17 pm |
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GeminiMALE40 wrote: ...I just wish people would stay on topic..If you want to talk about that song* then make a post about it in its on forum.. ... *subject
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Lonman
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Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 1:22 pm |
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Joined: Mon Dec 10, 2001 3:57 pm Posts: 22978 Songs: 35 Images: 3 Location: Tacoma, WA Been Liked: 2126 times
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Is there a pot vs kettle idiom?
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MadMusicOne
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Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 6:27 pm |
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Hey Bastiat, ...I would definitely be interested. You guys helped me out a great deal, a little over a year ago, to get me caught up on my PHM Collection. Thanks again and please keep me in mind!
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MrBoo
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Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 11:39 am |
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I am interested if I fit the criteria. I may even be a good choice for alpha testing as I run shows in a private environment.
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Cueball
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Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 3:21 pm |
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Bastiat, could you possibly elaborate on what would be required of the Beta Testers you're looking for, and what kind of time range are you requesting of them?
Do they: 1. Need to be an active KJ? 2. Need to perform this testing at Live Shows, or can this be done in the privacy of their own homes? 3. Need to be PC Based as vs Disc Based? 4. Need to have an Internet Connection?
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leopard lizard
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Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 9:06 am |
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Not to hijack--went into it more on the PHM Dec releases thread--but--even though their releases are obscure I decided to sample some of the songs just for the heck of it. There are Indie songs on these releases that some people are really into, if not the mainstream karaoke crowds. But many of the songs are very upbeat, energetic and quite singable. Some of these releases might warrant a second look, especially by hosts who like to premiere songs that people might not otherwise know.
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Bastiat
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Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 2:46 pm |
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Cueball . . . I never really considered any of the criteria that you listed, but I did assume that most people nowadays have an internet connection. I think that would be a requirement so as to be able to download song, performance and show data to test the product. I cant' really divulge too much information at this point as there are still legalities that we are trying to work through as well as applying for patents, etc. and that sort of thing. I will tell you however that we have been working on this project for nearly 10 years. If I tell you any more I'll have to kill you.
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twansenne
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Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:03 am |
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Bastiat wrote: Cueball . . . I never really considered any of the criteria that you listed, but I did assume that most people nowadays have an internet connection. I think that would be a requirement so as to be able to download song, performance and show data to test the product. I cant' really divulge too much information at this point as there are still legalities that we are trying to work through as well as applying for patents, etc. and that sort of thing. I will tell you however that we have been working on this project for nearly 10 years. If I tell you any more I'll have to kill you. Being in business you should know that you should NEVER ass-u-me anything. In my rural area, yes there is HIGH speed internet available, in fact I can get a 105Mbps service from my cable company. But in some places I have done/do gigs at there is NO reliable high speed internet service, other than perhaps a bad 3G connection. And there are several areas with barely cell phone service. So perhaps qualifying your beta testers, such as cueball listed would go a LONG way to help you get testers. That being said, I am interested, but I must say it must be a product/service I might actually use, I do not want to wast my time nor yours.
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TheMechanic
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Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 12:53 pm |
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I am interested.
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flees
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Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 7:05 pm |
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I'm interested, please sign me up.
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rogerniner
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Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 1:25 am |
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Ooh, pick me, pick me!!! I am SO interested! Anything that helps move this stagnant, ass-backward karaoke business forward into the actual 21st Century is something I want to be a part of!
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GeminiMALE40
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Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 5:10 am |
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If RYOK is a taste of the new product count me out..Im not impressed with this product at all..sorry but im just being honest...but they have had a better song selection lately I will give them that
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Asmodeous
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Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 9:00 pm |
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Lyssia
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:56 am |
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* double post *
Last edited by Lyssia on Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:54 am, edited 1 time in total.
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RogerG
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 12:55 pm |
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I am interested in the beta testing
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DavidG619
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:24 pm |
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Interested, if the beta hasn't rolled out yet and you're still ISO testers for your panel.
DG
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chrisavis
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Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:57 am |
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It's Summer 2014.
Anyone from these forums involved with testing this? Not looking for details, just want to know if ANYONE at all managed to get involved with testing.
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