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I'm thinking that All Star is just the first of the last....

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here is the original complaint:
http://fcdcfcjs.co.franklin.oh.us/CaseInformationOnline/imageLinkProcessor.pdf?coords=eq8mzW1cHnJEBsVB3rj1jED1ZjrJ5ZQxcdNwGjDoiiQ1x%2FJSJFpYJbcy%2BSTPYxLRihTljIhpnD6vMZy7FcgByRnapTgy1CJUVriyKRV3xNN%2FTLUWip%2BeXN6dvzmBGp3jGpnB1ccmVMPhaQxxNX%2FimpjYD37EQpB4Uv5BMAt5p1E%3D

hopefully it will open for you.

it's brother sueing brother for not paying the other brother his share of the business.
they have a 50/50 split. and he used 150,000 to pay personal expenses...
threats, hope the brother dies in surgery, glue all over the plantiffs desk.

brotherly love going on there!

you gotta read this, sounds like the plantiff just wants the other brother out of the business and hopefully it will be back to business.

buy the way, if you hit the next button on the webpage it will go to the next page with
the complaint on it.

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But we were told that piracy did All Star in.. No mention of any of this in the OP. Selective truth at work??

as I stated before, speculation!

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There is a great deal of speculation in the posts on here. So, just a couple of quick facts...

The brothers (Rick and Doug) are suing each other. The brothers have a long history of "disagreement". Doug asked for a Receiver and the court said yes. Ultimately, the Receiver decided to sell the Companies' assets. The court said okay fine. There are bidders currently. The sale hearing date was supposed to be the 7th of May but is not the 16th of May.

What oceantracks (aka TH) has said may (or may not) be actual facts because he is not privy to the majority of information. Rick spoke to him recently via telephone. What Rick says, however, may not necessarily be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

The best responses on here are the ones talking about the Clerk of Court website. The court documents tell a great deal of what is really happening.

This is truly a "nutshell" version. If you want all of the dirty details, you'll have some reading to do on the Franklin County Clerk of Courts website. Feel free to PM me.

Most notable is that if the company sells (and it looks like it will) the All Star Karaoke brand will most likely survive although other aspects of the business may not.

Not mutually exclusive!

The fact that ASK also has it's own internal problems within the "family" doesn't change the fact that the karaoke business has hit new lows in the US, which is why Pocketsongs is doing little to no new production either ( I worked for them for many years), and note that Stellar Records has gone under as well. All of these companies have really nice, music loving people behind them, they really do. I have been producing tracks for many years, with many of them. They are trying their best to succeed but it just isn't the field it used to be. I can only tell you what the owners of these companies say to me all the time. I just make music...I'm not on the business side whatsoever.

If the new owners of ASK continue the company with new productions, that will be great and hopefully I will be involved, but right now no one really knows yet. The only thing we do know is that the existing ASK is no more.

TH

No the proper term is..."discretion" It was and is ...not my business to spread "family" matters business around, however the difficulties the business was experiencing from
all the factors previously mentioned I feel were fair to post. All of which....have been relayed to me by those who run the business.

TH

So based on what Moongear pointed out, you have until Friday to get your All Star cards redeemed... After that I wouls suspect that the site goes down until the new owner(s) get things sorted out.

Perhaps, but if it does go down, it would likely only be down for a short while.

There is also a scenario that will keep one of the brother's in control. If that happens then it will be back to business as usual with likely no down time.

And there may be info available about the sale of another company in the next day or two.

I wonder if that will be Party Tyme.

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...Well, I see the site is still up and running as of today.
However, I did cash in the remaining 46 credits that I had
by this past Friday, based on the rumors here of them
shutting down.

This really saddens me. I had a subscription to All Star. The tracks were well made. Thanks for the info oceantracks!
I think it's about time the laws in the US were modified to help support US made karaoke companies. I don't believe piracy is the only issue.

This could be a really good way (a rumor) for everyone to cash in credits and start spending again As long as credits exist spending stops. Everyone here has cashed in and if something new becomes available, in the future, they will have to purchase it with new money....not credits.

Sort of like an old stock market saying "buy on rumor sell on news"

Well, not everyone. I said that I started to place an order, but due to the fact that certain options were not available before I completed the order, I held off on making it. I am still waiting for later this week (so that I can speak directly with someone from All Star (and NOT KW).

Court was Friday. It started out with the Motion to Dismiss provided by the two brothers and was followed by objection. After back and forth debate, the judge ultimately overruled the objection and granted the motion to dismiss.

What does this mean? Doug has succeeded in buying out his Brother's (Rick) shares. He now has control of the Companies and plans to be in the office today.

Supporting documentation is on the Franklin County Clerk of Courts website.

On a different note, this would have been a pretty elaborate "rumor". For mrmarog to state that this may have simply been a ploy to increase says is not only ignorant, it is laughable. While many people on this forum "boo hoo" about their precious $20 codes, others have been worrying about whether or not they will have a job, how they will support their families and a list of other uncertainties. The situation has been quite real and has been much more far reaching than whether or not you will be able to get your songs.

Interesting if even HALF of the stuff that was in the original complaint is true, and the case was dismissed,
then that means that All Star could very well still be in trouble. While I don't have any information as regards to the details,

filing a false police report is a serious matter, so I doubt anyone would be foolish enough to do that.

I would not want anyone accused of gross mis-management and embezzlement running any company that I had dealings
with.

I can only hope that things will work out for the best for everyone involved. It would be a real
shame to another karaoke company go under due to the completely stupid and unfair laws in North America.

-James

Hey Moongear,
...This thread was started by poster "oceantracks." Not only did he/she explain his/her past working
relationships with All Star, he/she also gave us a little heads up (rumor) about the potential closing
of All Star. Some of us have been good paying customers of All Star. Personally, I have over 1804
All Star Tracks (roughly a little over 100+ Downloads and the rest are from Discs). I also have
another 80+ All Star Duplicate CDGs (from Lot Purchases). Several of us KJs have been good
paying customers over the years, not pirates are some are.

...From the looks of your profile, you state you had worked for All Star for several years. The All Star
Brand has been a solid performer for most of us here and we appreciate it. Am sure you're well aware
of what piracy has done to the industry. Not to mention of all the previous Karaoke Producers that
come and gone for various reasons. Plus, all of the lawsuits filed by various parties. I would only hope
you could understand where we're coming from when we get a little gun shy as the rumors start
flying about lawsuits or Karaoke Producers closing their doors. Not to mention, several of us have
purchased cards but perhaps not used all of our credits. I can have sympathy for any business
closing and employees losing their jobs/incomes but as customers/businesses ourselves, we also
lose. Most of us KJs are part time but some are full time. Regardless, it never feels good to prepay
for a product and possibly not get refunded for unused credits, be it $20.00 or $200.00+.

...While you called out mrmarog and the rest of us Precious All Star Song Credit Holders, it kinda feels
like a slight slap in the face. Although I don't personally know mrmarog, except from this site. He
appears to be one of the good guys. One who actually purchases legal content. As for the internal
"Family Fued" at All Star, I'm not really interested in it. As a customer, I've always felt like All Star
had great Customer Service and enjoyed speaking with the people there. With that being said, if my
money is no longer good there, from the sound of your post, I guess I'll find another outlet.

...Nevertheless, I wish you and everyone else at All Star, the best in the Future! Good Luck!

Ignorant and laughable you're kidding me! The karaoke industry has proven that it many will stoop to any level to sell a product. I know nothing personally about ASK and truly hope they are doing well and that they will succeed, but a publicity stunt to sell a product would not be unheard of. The accusations in the complaint are so bazaar that it sounds made up. Just my 2 cents worth

I have to second what Mad Music said. Being able to obtain songs and stay competitive is a livelihood for many on here. I don't want to see any karaoke producer in the US go down and in this economy I can certainly sympathize with people not wanting to lose their jobs. But we don't want to lose ours, either, so obviously we will express concern over events that may affect our business.