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GMiller
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:43 pm |
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Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2014 10:11 am Posts: 27 Location: NW PA Been Liked: 0 time
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OK. So we have a local bar/restaurant that hosts karaoke once a week that is one of our favorite places to go sing at when we go out. Last night about half way through the show the KJ announces that he was going to give a song a try. He doesn't sing much (at these shows anyways) but he does a really good job and has a very entertaining show. During the introduction he said that this was the new music out and he wanted to test it out. So when he announced what he was going to sing, I was stoked. Home Sweet Home by Motley Crue! I love this song. Well, needless to say as the song started playing and we were singing along I went from rocking out to kinda like WTF? The music was horrible. It hardly even sounded like the original sound track and as a matter of fact the timing was so bad at points it threw the KJ off several times affecting his performance. It had nothing to do with the singer. He was very good at the points he was able to stay in time to. I was pretty buzzed by this time in the show as it was a friend's birthday we were out for but I'm pretty sure it said it was Karaoke Choice at the beginning of the song. Does anyone have any insight into this? Is all their music like this or is this just a bad rendition of one song? I wouldn't want this song for free let alone get boned paying for it. I'm new at this and am just getting to the point where I'm ready to start building my karaoke library and would like to avoid wasting time/money with garbage like this. Just wondering what you guys think.
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jclaydon
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 12:38 am |
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No one is going to be 100% perfect, every single karaoke producer in existence, including the quality ones like Zoom and Soundchoice have produced some truly AWFUL tracks.
In general, I think karaoke version does a really good job. The only thing I could say is that I prefer to buy the tracks from karaokedownloads.ca because of the credit system.. the more credits you purchase, the cheaper the cost per track becomes.
Plus the SBI tracks are usually pretty decent as well. The best way to decide if a track is good enough for you is to LISTEN to it first, both sites have the preview function
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Lonman
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 12:43 am |
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Joined: Mon Dec 10, 2001 3:57 pm Posts: 22978 Songs: 35 Images: 3 Location: Tacoma, WA Been Liked: 2126 times
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Only 'Karaoke Choice' tracks I've heard of are the illegal tracks streamed from Youtube, although I've never actually heard the quality. Sound Choice may have been shown - but that version is very recognizable & singable. There are several other manus that produced that song as well very well. Could it have said Karaoke Cloud? Much of their pop/rock library are from the old Chartbuster library which were really hit/miss in those genres, country was their specialty in the early days. But if that song came from a generic disc set that was found on ebay or something, chances are all the tracks are done similarly.
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Paradigm Karaoke
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 2:51 am |
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Joined: Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:24 pm Posts: 5107 Location: Phoenix Az Been Liked: 1279 times
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Chartbuster did a version of it by Carrie Underwood, that may be what he pulled up on youtube. it is different enough to throw someone off.
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GMiller
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:55 am |
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Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2014 10:11 am Posts: 27 Location: NW PA Been Liked: 0 time
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Sorry guys. I see the error in my post now. It said Karaoke VERSION at the beginning of the song not "choice". I use some Karaoke choice tracks here at home sometimes and must of got confused. I have to stop posting at 2a.m. after being out all night the night before. G
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Lonman
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 11:15 am |
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Joined: Mon Dec 10, 2001 3:57 pm Posts: 22978 Songs: 35 Images: 3 Location: Tacoma, WA Been Liked: 2126 times
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GMiller wrote: Sorry guys. I see the error in my post now. It said Karaoke VERSION at the beginning of the song not "choice". I use some Karaoke choice tracks here at home sometimes and must of got confused. I have to stop posting at 2a.m. after being out all night the night before. G Surprising, Karaoke Version has only let me down a couple of times. Out of curiosity I just used one of my free coupons to download it, not sure what you are hearing it sound pretty good & the swipes are not off at all. I'm thinking he must downloaded another version by mistake - the Carrie Underwood version doesn't sound anything like the original but still has enough rock overtones.
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MrBoo
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 11:34 am |
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Joined: Tue Jul 31, 2012 3:35 am Posts: 1945 Been Liked: 427 times
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You do have to adjust to the swipes on Karaoke Version. They start early. As for the music, if it is off, contact them. They have fixed several versions of songs I have. I get a notice that there is an updated version. They are great about that sort of thing.
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GMiller
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Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 9:46 am |
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Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2014 10:11 am Posts: 27 Location: NW PA Been Liked: 0 time
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I know I'm new to the Karaoke aspect of the music business and I don't have the experience of listening and comparing a ton of different producers of karaoke music that you guys have. It just seems to me that so far the tracks I have listened to from Karaoke Version(along with many other akaraoke music makers) are just weird. They sound so mechanical and computerized. Almost like the producers recreated the music on their lap tops with Pro Tools using instrument plug-ins. It doesn't even sound like a real band playing. Who wants that? It's a shame as to what's going on with Sound Choice because in my experience they hands down have the best music at least in my favorite Genres.
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Lonman
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Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 10:05 am |
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Joined: Mon Dec 10, 2001 3:57 pm Posts: 22978 Songs: 35 Images: 3 Location: Tacoma, WA Been Liked: 2126 times
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GMiller wrote: It just seems to me that so far the tracks I have listened to from Karaoke Version(along with many other akaraoke music makers) are just weird. They sound so mechanical and computerized. Almost like the producers recreated the music on their lap tops with Pro Tools using instrument plug-ins. It doesn't even sound like a real band playing. Who wants that? Wow! Very surprising, You can occasionally hear that within any manu - some are worse at it than others, but I (and I believe probably the higher majority here) feel Karaoke Version tracks are in the upper end of quality (I also bet that ALL manus these days use computers to record and yes the lower quality manus are definitely using synth'd/midi based instruments but have heard it from some of the better ones on occasion as well). I've got a couple of stinkers from them (KV), but again that can happen with every manu - I have terrible sounding SC tracks as well (although that is pretty scarce too).
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MrBoo
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Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 10:17 am |
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KV can be hit or miss. Usually I love what they do and I think they typically try to make replications as close as possible. I think they go a lot off of sheet music which can have it's own interpretation, instead of verifying by ear. They have fixed a few where I reported issues. One thing I love about their Don't Stop Believing is the intro is in stereo and the stereo effect even comes across when played in mono. I have never liked the intro on any of the others, including SC. It just seems flat and boring. SC does a great job after that but the beginning sets the mood for this song..
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chrisavis
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Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 12:37 pm |
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Joined: Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:38 pm Posts: 6086 Images: 1 Location: Redmond, WA Been Liked: 1665 times
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+1 on Karaoke Version. They were my go to brand for over a year. But I have been using a lot more SBI/Sunfly/Mr. E in the past year because of how much I buy and to keep costs down. Still, KV will produce items no other vendor has or someone will ask for that brand now and then so that is what I get. I don't recall ever having a complaint about any of their tracks.
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Alfke
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Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:28 am |
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There is not one manufacturer that can recreate the music perfectly every time. Some cannot do it at all. Some do great versions and drop the ball on others. Sometimes there is only one version ever made, and it blows chunks.
There are big differences between each version, such as key and tempo may be different, lyrics are missing or changed, background singers are too strong, too weak or are just plain horrible. Certain instruments may be more or less pronounced.
For example, I wasn't happy with any version of the Eagles songs, so I had to pay a premium on Ebay to get the discontinued soundchoice cd 8125. Do the drunk people that sing the songs really notice the quality difference? Probably not, but I notice it.
To sum up, it would cost you a fortune to get the best version available of every song. For Home Sweet Home, I would use the SoundChoice version, or the Dangerous version.
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GMiller
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:05 pm |
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Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2014 10:11 am Posts: 27 Location: NW PA Been Liked: 0 time
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Alfke wrote: There is not one manufacturer that can recreate the music perfectly every time. I totally get this. I understand that they are cover songs and not the original artists therefore there will be some variances but so far in my limited experience sound choice has hit some songs pretty damn close. A lot closer than others. Alfke wrote: There are big differences between each version, such as key and tempo may be different, lyrics are missing or changed, background singers are too strong, too weak or are just plain horrible. Certain instruments may be more or less pronounced. For sure. Typical of any cover song or artist but what I'm referring to is, it's not even a real guitar playing on the recording! It is a computerized rendition most likely using pro tools plug-ins. That is just sad and cheap! I could see this for some pop tunes or R & B raps songs but this is MOTLEY CRUE for crying out loud. Can someone please at least pick up a REAL guitar and plug it into a marshall half stack, stick a mic in front of it and press record? I'm pretty sure this how sound choice has recorded almost all of not all of their recordings at least in this genre. My rant is that I just hope this is not the future of all karaoke music. Alfke wrote: For example, I wasn't happy with any version of the Eagles songs, so I had to pay a premium on Ebay to get the discontinued soundchoice cd 8125. Do the drunk people that sing the songs really notice the quality difference? Probably not, but I notice it.
To sum up, it would cost you a fortune to get the best version available of every song. For Home Sweet Home, I would use the SoundChoice version, or the Dangerous version.
Alfke I would love to do this but so far I have yet to find that CD. I personally don't mind paying a premium for the better music because as of now I'm only buying songs that my crew sings and the eagles are some of them. I would love to find the sound choice version of Home Sweet Home but as of yet been unable to do so. I wish their renditions were more readily available. I hope this helps. G
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Lonman
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:47 pm |
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The Sound Choice 8346 is a Headbanger disc (another great disc as well). You may be able to find a Headbanger set as well that contained most of all their HB series. Problem is with SC is much of their stuff is discontinued and getting harder and harder to find, especially when there are many kj's that have illegal libraries and snapping up available discs the second they see them to be in compliance.
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jclaydon
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 3:45 pm |
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Lonman wrote: The Sound Choice 8346 is a Headbanger disc (another great disc as well). You may be able to find a Headbanger set as well that contained most of all their HB series. Problem is with SC is much of their stuff is discontinued and getting harder and harder to find, especially when there are many kj's that have illegal libraries and snapping up available discs the second they see them to be in compliance. Tell me about it. Volume 2 just came up on ebay the other day, sold for $56. *sigh* Volume 6 i missed out on by 50 cents above my max bid, but with the shipping charges being so unreasonable to Canada now, I just couldn't afford to go higher. Guess I'll have to wait another 8 years before I find those discs again. *lol* -James
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