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Luly @ Thu Aug 03, 2006 11:05 am wrote:
Save your jokes about Deep Throat please....  LOL


*Bites her tongue*  :whistle: hehe

Good to see you Luly.. *hug* how've you been?

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JazzyBaggz @ Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:06 pm wrote:
Luly started it!  I just took it the wrong way :P lol...


Phill, I swear I didn't start nuthin'!!!!  :shock:

Been good Jazzy....got a cold presently, but I'll survive.  I saw your comments over at the Singer's Forum.  Glad you contributed to it, you are really so musically gifted.  Good to see you around!

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Luly @ Thu Aug 03, 2006 10:24 am wrote:
Rita, I'm sorry to hear this is why you've been MIA lately.  I was wondering if you were just really busy at work.  

I've been here 2 years now and I've seen a lot of turmoil, some involving me, others involving friends.....and yeah it hasn't always been pretty.  As long as there are humans in existence, there will be conflict.  No one gets along 100% of the time...geez you even have spats with your spouse and family and you're supposed to love them more than anything! All I can say is that from what I know, there are two people involved in a debacle right now.  They are both my friends and this is THEIR dispute.  THEY should be hashing it out.  I have publicly offered my support to one of them because he continues to sub with comments allowed.  The other has listens only and has not commented lately on my subs and God knows why.  Maybe he interprets my supportive words to the other person as a brush-off to him.  Or...maybe he just ran outta time before he got to my subs.  You can't jump to conclusions cuz you never know the reasons with any certainty about why things happen here.  I probably should have just kept my comments restricted to the song, but then your personal thoughts about certain issues seem to find their way into print.  I am all for peace and I truly hope things can be hashed out.  I feel that they are two very good performers and yeah, this site really is big enough for both of them.

I have been tempted to leave once or twice before.  But if I did that, who would listen to my singing???  LOL After I spent all this money on recording equipment, I'm not gonna let it gather dust! Even with the occasional spats, I do like it here.  I have tried to ignore as much as I can when I've gotten nasty comments (luckily they've been few and far in between) and tried to be as diplomatic as I could be.  It IS hard to ignore when you feel a friend is being lambasted....but isn't it really up to that person(s) to handle it directly?  The more people get involved, the harder it is to maintain serenity.

Peace out.  :handshake:


Luly, You know I love you and had rather listen to to you sing than eat chocolate...and I love chocolate.   I really don't want to get in a debate over this.  It was an expression of my thoughts and how it's affected me on the site.  I'm sure that this stuff doesn't effect other people the same way.  I just can't see how anyone can support someone that is after another person so much that he/she will go to other peoples subs to put this one person down.  What one of these is so angry about is something that happened to another person.  That person got it over it long ago and this person should also.  I'm sorry.....but my support has a line and it was drawn recently.  I tried to talk to this person in a mature manner and I all I got back was childish and bitter responses.
This is just my reasons for staying away.  I go there to relax and enjoy some music.  I like to read the other comments to my friends.  It makes me feel good when they feel good but when they are made to feel bad then so do I.   Just from this thread alone I've learned alot.......People will jump to conclusions without knowing what's really behind any of it.  This is one time I know I didn't jump to conclusions.  I have proof of it through emails and PM's but I'm not the kind of person that would hurt another by revealing....They know who they are.  Maybe they are happy that they can affect people this way.  Some people are like that.  And I really don't mind telling them ....they stopped my fun and enjoyment.   So hopefully  they accomplished at least partly what they sat out to do.  I'm sure they are getting a big kick out it.   More power to them.  I'm a firm believer in you reap what you sow somewhere along the line.

Luv ya, Luly!

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AtM @ Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:22 pm wrote:
a10cgirl @ Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:18 pm wrote:
 I'm a firm believer in you reap what you sow somewhere along the line.

Luv ya, Luly!
I believe that too and there is a science to it not just a matter of belief or karma. :)


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a10cgirl @ Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:18 pm wrote:
Luly, You know I love you and had rather listen to to you sing than eat chocolate...and I love chocolate.   I really don't want to get in a debate over this.  It was an expression of my thoughts and how it's affected me on the site.  I'm sure that this stuff doesn't effect other people the same way.  I just can't see how anyone can support someone that is after another person so much that he/she will go to other peoples subs to put this one person down.  What one of these is so angry about is something that happened to another person.  That person got it over it long ago and this person should also.  I'm sorry.....but my support has a line and it was drawn recently.  I tried to talk to this person in a mature manner and I all I got back was childish and bitter responses.
This is just my reasons for staying away.  I go there to relax and enjoy some music.  I like to read the other comments to my friends.  It makes me feel good when they feel good but when they are made to feel bad then so do I.   Just from this thread alone I've learned alot.......People will jump to conclusions without knowing what's really behind any of it.  This is one time I know I didn't jump to conclusions.  I have proof of it through emails and PM's but I'm not the kind of person that would hurt another by revealing....They know who they are.  Maybe they are happy that they can affect people this way.  Some people are like that.  And I really don't mind telling them ....they stopped my fun and enjoyment.   So hopefully  they accomplished at least partly what they sat out to do.  I'm sure they are getting a big kick out it.   More power to them.  I'm a firm believer in you reap what you sow somewhere along the line.

Luv ya, Luly!


Rita if you love me more than chocolate, that's the highest compliment anyone can give me.  LOL Luv ya too, girlfriend.

Hon, I don't know everything behind what's happening....and frankly it's none of my business.  I just hope they can work out whatever upset them...and at the very least, if they can't work it out, then keep it civil and private so that no one else is affected by any of it.  

I wish you would reconsider.  We CAN make this fun again, hon.  Please put your feelings about this behind you and let's make the SS site about SINGING again.  Think about it, ok?   :hug:

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AtM @ Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:23 pm wrote:
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a10cgirl @ Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:18 pm wrote:
 I'm a firm believer in you reap what you sow somewhere along the line.

Luv ya, Luly!
I believe that too and there is a science to it not just a matter of belief or karma. :)


You're right, it's a fact!

Chuck, we're still waiting for another sub from ya!  :D

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Luly @ Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:28 pm wrote:
AtM @ Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:23 pm wrote:
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a10cgirl @ Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:18 pm wrote:
 I'm a firm believer in you reap what you sow somewhere along the line.

Luv ya, Luly!
I believe that too and there is a science to it not just a matter of belief or karma. :)


You're right, it's a fact!

Chuck, we're still waiting for another sub from ya!  :D
I promised Charmin I would do some country next, then I can do some other favorites after. It might be a week or more but I will, I promise.

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Rita that is my biggest complaint - no one expects everyone to like everyone else, but they really need to keep it between them. Most of us aren't there for the drama, we are there for the music. And these nasty comments are attempting to taint some really good music. I do know a lot of what is going on and have tried my best to stay out of it, because quite frankly, their personal business is just that and it doesn't belong on the comments. And due to terms I've seen used by some of the slammers, the one with the vendetta is really making the rounds. Its so sad that it has come to this, but I'm not going to let them chase me away - at worse I can just listen to the songs and leave my comments without reading other's comments - although that is a big part of the fun too - maybe I'll just skip reading the ones from those who are just here to cause trouble....I really don't care to read nasty comments. No one should ever have to post their songs for Listen Only just to avoid ridiculous fallout that has nothing to do with the songs they sing. What these idiots don't realize is that it just makes THEM look bad - and the ones they are intending to hurt definitely get my support. Most in SS really don't care about the reasons behind the arguments, I know I don't. No one is a saint, myself included, but when I go to listen to others' songs, I am there for that reason and that reason alone (although when friendships develop thats a big plus too)...and these fools who feel the need to bash are not going to stop me...I lost respect for them a long time ago and nothing they say matters to me, it just makes them look insecure and ridiculous.

Anyway these are just my rambling ADHD thoughts - hope some of it at least makes sense...my mind was all over the place when I was trying to type this so who knows what I came up with...I'm off to work - ewwwwwwww!!


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michaeljayklein @ 8/3/2006, 7:19 am wrote:
Actually awakens, there was a bunch of discussions about the "mystery" of vibrato in that thread, but feel free to open a new topic on it.  I notice in SS there are many people with great voices who  apparently do not have one (or opt not to use it).  It is handy to have and I use it a lot in my doo woop things.


Thank you Michael and Jian for your support

Wouldn't have had he courage to post a thread without both of you.


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might consider asking Phil or whoever is programming software to add a comment restriction much like PMs have.  In otherwords -- if you don't want a particular persons comments -- they will no longer be able to add any to your subs -- might work to cut down on all the problems


Awakens2music - great idea!

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I am glad to hear the warnings about SS. I will be bold when I submit again.

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Foxe @ Wed Aug 02, 2006 7:50 pm wrote:
ok.. well.. just a case in point here.. I do agree with keep it to the music comments..
but.. a couple of the comments here said that they appreciate how if someone see's someone else being attacked that friends circle and defend their friend..

well... I know about some of the stuff that has been going on and said in here.. and if you think about it.. the people attacking the other person's character or whatever... they feel they are sticking up for other people too..

so that's what I mean.. there's always going to be gang vs gang ... and who's really in the right? well ask members of Friend-set-A and they'll say they are.. Friends-set-B says they are..

who wins? that's what I meant.. two sides to every single story.. everyone is sticking up for friends or people they feel need sticking up for.. etc..

so not to start a fight.. just to make a point..

now dang it.. Where's Tig when a girl needs him? geez I've been hanging around all day and ya think he'd come find me but noooooooooooo.. Charmin!! what have you done with Tig?  :whistle:


Foxe - Oh my! Certainly didn't mean a gang of friends ganging up on another group. I was just going by my experiences in the discussion forum. We kind of police ourselfs at times. If I got out of line I'm sure one of my friends on here would let me know it. I consider Kappy a friend, but I know he wouldn't let me go all postal on someone.

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I could stand to learn some tolerance and self control, not let things bother me as much.

That is one of the reason I am here actually. I just didn't expect the drama, nor did I expect to cause some in the KS forum. I'm just a whimp sometimes. <boohoo> :D


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FOXE:  Charmin!! what have you done with Tig?


I've been keeping him, uhhh, bizzy.  :D

*Tig, you can get up for a sec and answer the KS people, they're askin' about ya*


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until Charmin gets done swinging that splittin' maul o' hers!


Hey, I would never raise that maul "against" a singer, heck no, it would be to "defend" the singers. Cause I hate this sniping crap.  And, I reallllyyyy can't carry a splitting maul in there anyhow girl, this is the internet. (It's not allowed, most popup blockers squash splitting mauls)  :wink:

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JIAN: My mix is still bad and the singing does not improved.


YOU need a whuppin'. There's no reason you should not be subbing. I should dig through all my old, OLD, SS cd's of songs I downloaded and find a song of you, and just post it myself.  :twisted: Cause I know I copied some of yours.

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SS site about SINGING again.


You know, that's one of the best things that I've read here. I say *ignore* these people who do that. They usually just want attention anyhow, so why give it to them? I know sometimes it's hard, I do recall getting bashed a time or two when I was recently new here... but I turned a deaf ear to it, and they backed off. I would still welcome any and all critiques, gosh knows I could use LOTS of pointers. But you can't ask for it, without getting a number attached, and I swore long ago not to do the numbers game again. (2 year old swear, and I've held to it too...) But, I think I could pick through the real critiques and the snipes, and get something good from it.  It's easier just to laugh- and feel sorry for- people who do that kind of thing.

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And now I can really hold you to that promise since you posted it here in a thread.  :D

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Hey BlueStainedShoes, is it still possible to download subs from SS? If it is I would like to know how because a lot of the singers a superb and it would make it a lot easier to hear more of them. :)


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Babs @ Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:23 pm wrote:

Foxe - Oh my! Certainly didn't mean a gang of friends ganging up on another group. I was just going by my experiences in the discussion forum. We kind of police ourselfs at times. If I got out of line I'm sure one of my friends on here would let me know it. I consider Kappy a friend, but I know he wouldn't let me go all postal on someone.


lol Babs.. I didn't mean "gang gang" lol.. I meant that word losely hon lol


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Cool!  :hug:

You guys are so nice from SS. I hope this invasion isn't temporary. LMAO

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I have to admit I was shocked to here such termoil in SS. Everytime
I've subbed people have been so supportive and nice.

The complaint I usually heard was people were to nice with their comments and weren't critiquing with validity. You guys sound like you have 2 extremes over there.
The really nice people and the a-h0les.  LMAO  



Maybe we can add excessive reverb to all their subs and make their replies in Chinese. hmmmm

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