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Steven Kaplan
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:57 am |
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Yet we ALL experienced the "light grey" font, so again, my question.. are we ALL infected ? or was that just a different issue all-together unrelated ? Reason I tend to doubt that is because these problems happened at the exact same time.. I was NOT able to sign into this site on my SBC however I was able to sign in on America Online saturday of last weekend.. At that time fonts were light grey, 15 minutes prior everything was normal. Correlation ? or not ? Now font has been restored to white, I can sign on via a few ISP's, yet steadily NOT from America Online. How would that be my system ? UNLESS the larger ISP's are infected. Or, an erratic virus IS affecting only specific areas of certain ISP browsers on individual systems. IOW... AOL is affected, and as we speak this would be spreading in Yahoo and soon all hell will break loose ? Given the insidious nature of viruses how can one say ? This would likely be known, would it not if it affected AOL browsers as a virus ? Again, Computer programming knowledge is not me forte.. Might as well give Rainman a scalpel and ask him to perform a neurosurgery task.
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Steven Kaplan
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:15 am |
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I'm going to shutup and let Site administration, and those with quite a sophisticated knowledge of ISP/ phpBB and Lord knows what other knowledge is needed to trouble-shoot this. Only those that made changes to the site might know what changes were made, and what the affects might be. IF this eludes Administration, I haven't a clue. I just tried a few options to attempt to help furnish possibilities regarding entry to the site. Basics.
Quote: your right...might not be your system!!! Could be an ISP Problem.
That's how it currently appears to site individuals working on this. Yet as we both know, that doesn't necessarily preclude "Virus" either. So we are at square one.
Electrical Storm just temporarily knocked out my power so I need to do a LOT of unplugging. Later all, Hailing as we speak (Hey Bill, You might want to drive up to CT for "the big one", heck... See you in Oz) byeee !!!
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Foxe
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:25 am |
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well in reality.. I wonder if even if a "wrong" ip was entered in to the banning system if it might prevent all users on that particular system from accessing the site?
like this.. I've found a lot of spam originates with a .ru domain.. so on my board I've blocked anyone that has that domain from being a member.. yes.. I realize there could be SOME legit people trying to get there.. but there was more spam than legit coming in..
so.. I wonder what happens if you block a main IP address of a network's service? I don't know.. just tossing it out there.. :whistle:
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MorganLeFey
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:32 am |
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heya Cindy, Phil has the screen shots of my tracerts and ipconfig etc. that was one of the first things Meep suggested I do. It has to be their prob not mine for it to be so widespread
http://www.freeproxyserver.net
give joyce that...its what I am using to connect with...its not a perfect situation but its better than being locked out with zero response from admin to emails
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Steven Kaplan
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:53 am |
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That's what I was wondering as well Cindy, and there's A LOT of merit to that point. IE.. I can access this site from my current ISP, but isn't SBCGlobal.net actually YAHOO ? I believe it is. Not being too familiar with Dyanamic vs Static IP addresses this is where I'm confused assuming this is a IPv4 issue and not more advanced. Assuming I had *cable*, and no router (with several computers) to firewall my home-setup, cable would give me a Static IP address correct ? I'd always be recogniseable to Karaokescene. Where as DSL (which is what I have) as well as dial-up connect (via America Online sized) provider would be Dynamic IP (I go thru different nodes and would not have a stationary IP according to what KS's computer can notice I assume). Why this might be so intricate is that I know my IP address is dynamic, however I can ALWAYS log on easily NOW using my standard bookmarked www.karaokescene.com address. I haven't since yesterday been able to access via America Online once, OR a different Yahoo dynamic IP since yesterday either, and I have tried multiple times. Thing is, I'm still dynamic whether I access using Netscape (which always works currently) or SBC.. Might this be as specific as certain geographic areas, subnets ? Netscape although dynamic for *me* has not been a problem at all. Vicki mentioned something interesting that MAY or may not help, but she mentioned that she needs to access via a site with A LOT of spamming and banners going on, her home site can't access here. I wonder if somebody put a particular type of finicky filter on this site (that's not working well given types of access needed, and did this around the time the font adjustment took place). At least as of a few days back Phill mentioned the font change was deliberate (at least he believed a new designer was tweaking the site therefore the change would not have been virus or random). Since around that same time access probs started, and Phill and a designer might not have all things coordinated yet, I wonder if this is some finicky problem that creates a domino affect with a slight tweak. Here's the thing, not sure how tough it was for Phill to adjust the font color back to white, but wouldn't it be bizarre if reversing what he did back to light grey enabled those that suddenly can't access the site to do-so ? Few were having access probs with the grey font right ? Are these possibly totally unrelated ? OR CAN they be related given the nature of the probs ? There are a few sites that seem unaffected. As I mentioned currently SBCGlobal, and Netscape although dynamic seem unaffected.
If this gets into those subnet mask thingies this has got to be tough :shock:
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MorganLeFey
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:11 pm |
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it would make sense that its the "tweaker's" rooster-up Kappy. It would certainly be a good place to start. I can connect at work, that is a different isp but obviously I cant in fairness to my employer, sit on this forum while they are paying me a salary.
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Steven Kaplan
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:26 pm |
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Quote: it would make sense that its the "tweaker's" rooster-up Kappy
Seems likely, reason being, WHY would anybody knowingly wish to switch a visible display font to barely visible light grey on similar grey tone background anyway ? That is likely some type of fallout from a different tweak all-together.
Vicki, can you switch your HOME Internet Explorer Netscape Browser ? That should work too.
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Steven Kaplan
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:41 pm |
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Would it be helpful to pass on (to those having access probs you are in Email contact with) the following possible options ?
Vicki (outside of the USA) is able to access Karoakescene via
http://www.freeproxyserver.net
I have had luck accessing using
Netscape (assuming I switch my Internet Exporer browser to Netscape, and DO NOT
attempt to access from America Online. Google and Netscape if you are
on America Online might timeout and not reach Karaokescene)
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Foxe
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:11 pm |
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OK. well fact is for Vicki that...
if she conceals her IP address.. assigned to her by her ISP.. then she can get to the site..
there's a post here from Phill last month stating that the karaokescene EMAILS had been blacklisted by Comcast as a spammer..
Do you suppose that a database somewhere on the Net has added KS's info to their database as a spammer and baddy site.. and Verizon and possibly SBC and whomever else use their lists to "protect" their customers?
I work for an ISP reseller.. our provider had been going thru a list provider to blacklist emails.. heck.. some of our customers have gotten our entire domain blocked from AOL before because of sending out spam messages, don't think it dealt with surfing.. but you know.. in today's day and age anything is possible I suppose.
JVJ and SyberChick had this happen to them last year or so... somehow it got resolved but it took months if I remember correctly...
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MorganLeFey
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:11 pm |
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Steven Kaplan @ Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:26 am wrote: Quote: it would make sense that its the "tweaker's" rooster-up Kappy Seems likely, reason being, WHY would anybody knowing wish to switch a visible display font to barely visible anyway ? That is likely some type of fallout from a different tweak all-together. Vicki, can you switch your HOME Internet Explorer Netscape Browser ? That should work too.
meep gave me an alternative browser to attempt connection but to no avail, I simply cannot cannect via this computer except via a proxy server
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MorganLeFey
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:46 pm |
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ok Cindy here is what you asked for I think 
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Foxe
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 2:00 pm |
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MorganLeFey
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 2:02 pm |
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grrr
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Steven Kaplan
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 2:03 pm |
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Quote: Do you suppose that a database somewhere on the Net has added KS's info to their database as a spammer and baddy site.. and Verizon and possibly SBC and whomever else use their lists to "protect" their customers?
That's certainly a possibility Cindy. What we do know is that Verizon HAS admitted to having site problems so either way, that would be a possibility for Verizon with or without a block, the problems are also sporadic. As for America Online, that makes perfect sense, BUT, I wonder if anybody on this site *IS* able to connect from America Online. (I can't assume that what works for me or even my area for that matter is indicative of ALL America Online users (we just don't know yet). I wonder what sites ARE having these problems connecting ? I wonder how many ? Is it just Verizon, and America Online ? Because it also APPEARS to be certain Yahoo areas.
I wonder what browsers or ISP's are affected. OR, can ANYBODY connect to this site from America Online ?
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MorganLeFey
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 2:04 pm |
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hope u can see it now
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Foxe
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 2:08 pm |
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yep hon.. I see it now.. ty..
well Kappy.. different connection points will use different DNS servers tho too.. usually an ISP doles out a default DNS server of servers that are closest to you.. to give you teh quickest response times..
so yeah.. you'd be using different DNS servers especially when using different ISP's.. (it's not browser related.. its your initial connection related)..
The same ISP (such as AOL) can have hundreds, thousands of DNS servers located across the globe..
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Foxe
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 2:12 pm |
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Vicki.. YOUR isp is able to resolve to the same address as mine..
but like I posted in the other thread I think.. one of the hops along the way.. I'm wondering if it's getting "lost" on the Net.. since it's not seeing this forum address at the same .194 addresses.. so that might go along with why your ISP can't seem to see a problem either.. their dns seems able to resolve..
well the cruddy thing is.. Sat until now.. well in my calculations that is past 72 hrs.. so.. wonder how long till every one catches up..
and I wonder if Verizon has any part of their network not having issues right now.. sounds like they're having cellular tower issues in my area since Friday.. :no:
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