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Wow...  unless my math is failing... it looks like the votes are even... but the majority of posts seem to be "against"

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Karaoke:  Freedom of expression, or cruel and unusual punishment?

I'd tell the "tip hungry" bartender "SURE I'll change my policies... once you get to buying my discs, once you get to printing and stuffing my books, once you get to running the rotation fairly and listen to the whining and cajoling, once you learn sound, and buy the equipment..."

Heck, for that matter, is he going to even SPLIT the tips he gets for doing that? Not that "I" would do it, but I know some jocks that would...

What an a#$!! Is he going to give free drinks to the customers that come up biyatcin' that they hate that F*n song, and want to beat the snot outta the cheap dime-store hooker that allowed the song to be played twice, let alone three or more times? SHEEESH!

It's YOUR karaoke show. YOU control it, not the patrons, not the bartenders, not even the owners. You may have to adjust it initially, but NOBODY tells you who's going to sing, or what they're going to sing.

ditto lonman and most others here.  once in a blue moon i will let a song be duplicated but there had better be about three hours in between.  as for folks turing in multiple songs at once...we did away with slips completely.  i just have them tell me the song(s) they want to sing in order.  depending on the number of songs someone is turingin in (ie- a new singer turns in only one song and it happens to be in another singer's list of songs) i let the new singer know that someone has already turned it in to be sung, but i would check to see if the person who already turned it in would let them do it instead.  i've never had someone say "no".  then i will drop it from the original singer's que and give it to the new person.

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not sure about where you are at..but up here, no one cares much what you sing, they are busy dancing, and drinking and having a great time. As long as the music keeps playing they don't care. They are the boss paying the tab, if they want to sing a song someone else has sung...have at it, i don't care. And i don't serve drinks, and the bartender doesn't run karaoke. I don't do his job, and he don't do mine.....

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I'm with you.  I will let the person know that the song has been done, and usually they will change the song.  But just last Saturday, three women put in "Broken Wing."  (DIVAS  LOL) One at the beginning of the night, one in the middle, and one towards the end of the night.  I let the the other two know that it had already been done, and they didn't care.  I played them all, but that night I had three waves of clientele.  Only the bartenders heard it three times.

Also, I must be lucky.  The bartenders and owners NEVER tell me how to run my show.  I wouldn't allow it.

I pretty much have the belief that if a customer wants to sing a song, they have the right to.... even if someone else on the list is singing the same one. More often than not, they'll wanna change it once they realize someone else got it first, but even though it can drive me crazy sometimes, I still won't force someone to change their song if that's the one they're dying to sing. Don't get me wrong, I despise seeing the same song three times in one rotation, and I'll try to persuade them to change it if the chance comes up, but the "repeat song" people also pay my wages, so I'm not gonna force it.

Going back to Karen's post, they're STILL killing us with "Before He Cheats"! That song won't die in East TN....AAAAUGGGHHH!

No repeats here.

Now, If I could just people to sing different songs everytime they come to karaoke. That would be great to say" You can't sing anything that you sang the last 2 times you were here."

I have run contest like the song with the pot of gold and theme night to encourage people to sing different songs, but many sing the same songs night after night.

And there are too many that will sing a song again because they think they are better - which may or may not be the case, which is why I do not allow repeats.  Karaoke isn't about being better than somone else & trying to show them up.  I can't stand hearing someonec come up to me during a song & saying you have to let me sing this soon, this person sucks & I am soo much better.

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I don't know why anyone would do that. I am certainly not the second coming of George Strait, but I am now getting to be a bit better than the average singer. There is one of my best songs which I would kind of like to do at one venue, but it is one of the few another singer has. I don't want to show him up on it, so I simply don't do it, even if he isn't there at the moment. I have so many songs, and he has so few. I don't need to "correct" him. I know it wouldn't be "stealing" his song to do it, but there simply is no need and I feel that it is just better if I don't go there.

It happens very often.  And 9 out of 10 times they aren't even as good as the original singer but think they are or it's 'their' song & yell at me for letting them do it.  
First off - I tell them - no one 'owns' anything otherwise you would be out there touring & promoting.  Therefore any song is fair game for anyone - period.  So whoever gets it up first is who is going to sing it for the night.  You can put it in first next time.  Same goes for those who give me multiple slips, just because it's in your stack, don't mean it's not going to be done by someone else first, you can't reserve a song for later on in the evening by handing me a stack aof slips you might be able to get to.

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You'd probably find that you'd end up with only a couple of singers!  But I hear what you're sayin'!  It seems that some people only know as many songs as they get in a night's rotation... Or could it be that they don't want to put in a slip for a song that they have no idea how the backing is going to be?  I personally endeavour to sing a different set of songs at a venue than I did the previous two or three times I was there.... just to give a bit of variety!



Ain't it funny how some people think they 'own' the rights to perform a particular song and woe betide anyone else who sings it!  I was at a venue once and the person asked me what I was going to sing next as I was looking through the book.  When I told them the song I was thinking of writing down they said something like "Oh, you can't do that, 'so and so' always sings that".  True, 'so and so' did always sing that song, but she wasn't even there that night. Strewth!

Hey, I use compuhost as well. Love the software. However, we still find that our singers get annoyed with the rotation once it starts getting busy.

How many do you have in your first rotation?
And how do you add in your new singers?

We generally start out so slow, that it takes a good hour or so to get 10 -15 people, but once they start coming, we try to rotate a new singer in after every previous singer. But then.... you have someone who was 8th in line, now 16th.....

eeeck..

I would love to hear how others manage thier rotations and what seems to work best.

That's part of a succesful show - large rotations!  Once you get past a certain number, it does not matter LITERALLY how you do it, people will get pissed!  Just stay consistant & don't change the format throughout the night!

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I set the rotation scroll so it only shows four singers, then add them in at the fifth singer. So everyone who is currently on the display goes in the order they are shown, but the new ones can get in fairly quickly.

I am paid to keep the singers happy.   That is what i do.   So if a song gets repeated, it gets repeated.  What's the big deal?   I won't get fired for it.   The singers remain happy.   I did my job as a good KJ should.

Yes but we are also there for the bar & the general audience does not want to hear songs repeated all night as well (even singers - and especially singers that just sang the same song).

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Karaoke night is for the singers.  The reason you were hired.   So the singers are the top priority.   If they stop coming you have no "karaoke" night.   I have never seen a group of listeners start a riot over a song repeat.    Or a mass exodus.   They buy another drink and keep listening.

Well when karaoke singers start outweighing the crowd, then they can be catered to exclusively (wow this sounds like an argument in the dj side  :whistle: ).  If you have a 100 people in the bar, typically 1/4 of those people are actually singers.  I am there for bar entertainment.  Karaoke just happens to be the format.  I would not run repeats if I doing dj either or playing in a band.
When a song gets repeated in a night - especially a song that is overdone to death by the typical singer that can't then YES the rest of the crowd - even the singers & especially the one that already sang it will get bugged.
But it doesn't really matter, I haven't ever had a complaint by this & when I tell someone the song has already been done, they thank me & pick another song!  No skin off their nose either & most singers do not like to do a song in the same night especially if the original person that sang it is still there - unless again they want to try to 'show them up' or claim it's 'their' song.

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One venue I go to has an automatic system. Singers get a name and password so they can each enter one song at one of two terminals. The songs are played in the order they are put in. Once you have sung you can enter another song it will not let you enter more than one at a time. Rotation is shown on a large screen near the stage.  Most of the time they have a KJ but sometimes it seems to be running by itself.  I have seen the same songs come up for different singers very close together.

Jim-n-TN