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DannyG2006
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TomSea @ Tue Nov 13, 2007 8:18 pm wrote: mckyj57...  here we go... I use Power karaoke burner to do my ripping, burning, so I already have that end of the process. I do all of that 'heavy work' on my desktop, including Karaoke CDG creator pro. Sounds like Winamp may be the thing. Navigate, play, key change. I think the gigmaster will only change key if I'm playing through IT'S player. for the most part, it will become my amplifier/speakers. You guys have been so helpful! If you want rotation look into www.autokdj.com which is a free winamp plugin. Does everything that Compuhost does.
Roxbox gives you a spot in the rotation for singers discs that they bring in.
Each software has features that might not be available on others. RoxBox is the only one out there with a multiplex function in the winamp plugins arena.
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:15 am |
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Main Karaoke Playing Software I Use:
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium - It came with the Notebook
Winamp Pro v5.5 - player
- Sound Ouput is Configured to go out to External Alesis Mixer via USB
- Auto Gain Control Enabled, all songs are auto-gain calculated
- Equalizer Enabled
- Playlists created for Rock, Country, Oldies, & SoundBites
- All Karaoke Songs Have Genre set to Karaoke for fast searching
- SoundBite Playlist: Laugh.wav, Aplause.wav, Cheers.wav, Record Scratch.wav, Toilet Flush.wav
Winamp Plugins:
AutoKDJ v1.4Beta - Intelligent Rotation Manager with Remote Kiosk Option not yet enabled
KJAmp CDG Plugin - CDG Viewer (1 copy for KDJ display and another for Singer Display) - Image Overlay Feature Working, -Forced CDG Background Color Configured (For Overlays)
Stereo Tool 2.10 - Highly Effective Compressor / Limiter Tool (Smoothes out Volume)
DSP Key/MPX v0.3 for Winamp 2 (DSP_ECHO.dll) - Multiplex Vocal Removal Tool (Borrowed from RoxBox Demo)
PaceMaker v2.1 - Tempo and Pitch Controller
Mildrop2 - Audio Visualization - with Sprite image insertion feature for Advertising
VoiceFX v1.2 - Automated Voice Over Fader Plugin
MuchFX2 - For Stacking Multiple DSPs Together
Second Copy of Winamp Pro 5.5 Installed in a seperate Folder with some Renamed Files so I can keep it's settings more seperated from the other Winamp. - Used for Preview of songs through headphones connected the laptops internal Audio card. No extra plugins installed on this winamp.
Third copy of Winamp Pro 5.5 With all the plugins and some extra plugins for Cross Fading between amps, BMP counting, and Speed adjustments... Used for DJ parties only. I don't need it for Karaoke.
Other Software I Use:
AudioGraber v1.83 - ripping CDG to MP3+G
EditCDG 1.2 - For cleaning out the Karaoke Snow from CDGs
Drempels v1.5 - Animated Desktop Visualization (Programmable Filter Overlay Software)
MultiShow v1.1 - Background Slideshow for Multiple Monitors for Advertising Between Sets
PaintShopPro 7 - For creating Cool Logos for Advertising
Microsoft Access 2000 - For Creating Nice Karaoke Song Books
Microsoft Excel 2000 - For Prepairing my Song List for the Access Database
Microsoft Internet Explorer 7 - Used to access AutoKDJ Next Singer List and to purchase Digital Download Karaoke
Equipment:
HP DV6000 Notebook - 1.6GHz Turion64X2, 2GB DDR2 667 - Display Color Depth is set to 16 Bit (Medium) Color for use with Kjamp CDG Plugin Overlay effects.
Alesis Multimix 8 USB - USB Soundcard / 8 Channel Live Sound Mixer with 99 DSP Effects
Sony 400 Watt Surround Sound Receive
200 Watt Powered JBL Woofer with Built-in Crossover
2 Small Home Stereo Speakers... on their way out.
Giant Mitsubishi Projection TV with S-video in - Audience Screen
LCD TV mounted on a speaker stand - Singers Screen
2 Cheap Nady Remote Microphones
Embarq DSL Always On Internet Service
Media:
CDG Discs purchased from Walmart or Guitar Center
Audio CDs from Costco - Used for background/filler music
Digital Karaoke Downloads from Tricerasoft.com and BuyKaraoke.com
It's a small setup. I can't show you all the Drempels overlay.. I can't seem to get a screen shot of it.
Most all of the KDJs here in Medford Oregon use RoxBox. Prier to that it was Sax & Dotty. I've tried lots of demo's, Tricerasoft Swift Elite 4, Tricerasoft JustKaraoke, MTU, Sax & Dotty, RoxBox, Sack O Nuts, KaraFun, and others. None of them have everthing I wan't. Tricerasoft Swift Elite 4 has a nice SoundBite button pad. Sax & Dotty has a nice Next Singer window. Karafun has greate graphics and the ability to play 2 tracks simultaniously. (only works if the volal track and non vocal track are in perfect sync. Editing the tracks to get them into synked sometimes helps but is difficult) MTU has some interesting Ripping software. JustKaraoke has easy access to digital download Karaoke from Tricersoft (But Tricerasoft only has about 10,000 tracks including lots of duplicates). Yeah, they all have various features but none have everything the way I like it.
I basically use AutoKDJ in Winamp and lots of plugins. It sounds and looks good. I doesn't have all the features I want but it is easy to use, looks good, and sounds good. If I could change something, it would be... a faster for CPU. 2GHz does it better. With nTune drivers I can overclock to this speed but it is very hard on my 65 Watt powersupply.
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knightshow
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:27 am |
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exweedfarmer @ Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:34 pm wrote: When you wrote "I personally can't stand ANY computerized rotation programs such as Hoster, SaxNDottys or any of the others. The kj spends far too much time dealing with all the little bells and whistles rather than having the program just play the file." I think that was a bad rap. The original Sacks-O-Nuts you could still use if you were blind drunk, I know because I have done it many times. All I had to do was click play and once in a while I had to click the stop button to update the singers lists from the kiosks and the buttons were really big. There was nothing the least bit cumbersome about it. True enough there were a lot of optional bells and whistles that could be used during the show but you didn't have to. That version of SON has been retired because it won't run on Vista and the new one has dual players so it won't be as easy to use, but I don't think it is fair to lump all hosting software together. There was about ten thousands things wrong with SON 2.2 but being hard to use at the gig was not one of them. There's probably some active software out there that can make the same claim. that's all good and fine, weed, but what I gave was a personal recommendation. I didn't give a bad rap. I said I didn't like them, and gave specific reasons why. You go on with a story of SON and the bugs and problems it had, but rotation wasn't one of them...
why would I want to force myself to use a product I'm not happy with, when all my needs are being met with what I work with. Again, I gave a clear and concise reason why I personally feel that you don't need the rotation part. I'm not the only kj in the world that thinks this way. Others might like options (like you did with SON), but not the whole package.
I personally like clubdjpro, but feel their audio mixing levels should be much more than a standard treble, bass, midrange three slider bars. It's not enough to make me NOT want to use the program, though. But I have YET to have found a reason why I don't like the free winamp and the plugins.
What works for me won't work for others... and vice versa.
That's HARDLY giving them "a bad rap". Now if I'd have said bad things about the software specifically such as lag times, time it took to queue up, move folks in rotation, etc...
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 2:30 pm |
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knightshow @ Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:27 am wrote: that's all good and fine, weed, but what I gave was a personal recommendation. I didn't give a bad rap. I said I didn't like them, and gave specific reasons why. You go on with a story of SON and the bugs and problems it had, but rotation wasn't one of them...
why would I want to force myself to use a product I'm not happy with, when all my needs are being met with what I work with. Again, I gave a clear and concise reason why I personally feel that you don't need the rotation part. I'm not the only kj in the world that thinks this way. Others might like options (like you did with SON), but not the whole package.
I personally like clubdjpro, but feel their audio mixing levels should be much more than a standard treble, bass, midrange three slider bars. It's not enough to make me NOT want to use the program, though. But I have YET to have found a reason why I don't like the free winamp and the plugins.
What works for me won't work for others... and vice versa.
That's HARDLY giving them "a bad rap". Now if I'd have said bad things about the software specifically such as lag times, time it took to queue up, move folks in rotation, etc...
You are certainly entitled to your opinion. You're certainly entitled to run your show any way you like. No arguement.
But I understood you to say that you didn't use software because it was hard to use and you couldn't just push play and have it work. If that is not what you said, sorry, my bad. Did I misunderstand?
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 10:01 pm |
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I said I can't "stand it" and that I don't agree with the need for it for myself personally. NOT that I don't understand how to use it.
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DannyG2006
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:48 pm |
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Okay I am lazy. I'd rather have a computer do my work for me so that I can spend more time chatting with some drop dead gorgeous Bombshell that has the misfortune to walk into my bar. .
Actually I am very work oriented but like the advantages that I have with the tools that are present for me. Any tool that makes my life easier and allows me to have more time to interact with my singers, I am all for - short of having the show completely run by the machine. I still enjoy getting on the mike and announcing who is singing next.
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Hi Tom,
I'm new to this forum as of 11/19. I did not see an actual full answer to your post. I use Siglos as a secondary KJ program along with RoxBox. And I like it for the reason that I can play CD-G disks from my CD/DVD drive using Siglos, while RoxBox let me play my CDG and MP3 files from an external hard drive. When a guest singer want to sing one of their songs, even though I probably have it, I want them to feel comfortable using their disk. I simply put the disk in while I'm playing some other music. If I have an internet connection the list of songs comes up in the song list. If not the singer usually knows what track number their song is. Once I plug the song in and it comes up on the Siglos player screen (small) I pause the MP3 song I have playing on RoxBox, then double click to Siglos player screen and it pops up large on the singers screen ready to be sung by my guest singer. When the song is over I un-pause the MP3 song in RoxBox and I'm ready to rock and roll with the next singers. I can also load my sound effects into Siglos (applause, toilet flush, etc) and play them at any time. I hope this helps. 
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DannyG2006
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:30 pm |
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This reply runs on a bunch of ifs. If you have a drive that is cdg compatable, if you want to shell out $25 for the Disc plugin for winamp (made by the original MP3+G plugin for winamp) then you should be able to play from roxbox itself using their song request system. You need to go into the .ini file for RoxBox and tell it what the CD-rom drive's letter is but once you do this you need only to type in the track number of the song you want to play.
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You seem to have a good grasp on your use of video overlay. I also use autokdj and am new to kmplayer using the overlay. I have windows vista and have thus far not been able to use the overlay. If you can help, it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
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Now I'm confused. Both Johnny and I are thinking of switching to computerized hosting and he was going to use PCKJ, and I have been telling hin, no most people on the forum says that Compuhost is the best. yet on this one no one has even mentioned it. Someone please explain?
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BlueRose @ Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:39 am wrote: Now I'm confused. Both Johnny and I are thinking of switching to computerized hosting and he was going to use PCKJ, and I have been telling hin, no most people on the forum says that Compuhost is the best. yet on this one no one has even mentioned it. Someone please explain?
Because someone resurrected an over-two-year-old thread that was started before CompuHost really came out.
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[align=center]RoxBox RoxBox RoxBox.[/align]
Frank is currently working on multiple songs per singer and he is replacing Winamp with his sound engine. He is probably the only one that gives phone support. I have used/tried them all at one time or another. This is the most efficient and has the most features by far.
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Quote: Now I'm confused. Both Johnny and I are thinking of switching to computerized hosting and he was going to use PCKJ, and I have been telling hin, no most people on the forum says that Compuhost is the best. yet on this one no one has even mentioned it. Someone please explain?
If you are thinking about starting out with computerized Karaoke, Go to The MTU website. They are one of the sponsors of this board, and I am using their Newest and Greatest Karaoke Hosting programs. Hoster 4.0 has Just been released, and it is one Heck of a program. At least check it out....... http://www.mtu.com
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EElvis @ Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:05 am wrote: Quote: Now I'm confused. Both Johnny and I are thinking of switching to computerized hosting and he was going to use PCKJ, and I have been telling hin, no most people on the forum says that Compuhost is the best. yet on this one no one has even mentioned it. Someone please explain? If you are thinking about starting out with computerized Karaoke, Go to The MTU website. They are onevof the sponsors of this board, and I am using their Newest and Greatest Karaoke Hosting programs. Hoster 4.0 has Just been released, and it is one Heck of a program. At least check it out....... http://www.mtu.comPardon me, but I simply don't see what you are talking about when you make such claims. I'm an avid Compuhost supporter and user, however I'm always receptive to something better.
So, to help me make a fair evaluation of the "latest and greatest" hoster, can you help me with a few IMPORTANT issues I found while evaluating Hoster 4.0?
1. Where is the Filler Music? Or are you still supposed to add filler music manually between singers as the old version did?
2. I'm unable to see how each singer has their own queue, in other words, can you add unlimited songs to each singer without each song occupying a space in the playlist?
2. In comparing the scroller, I find that Hoster's scroller is NOT smooth at all when compared to CompuHost, nor does it display the upcoming Performers as CompuHost does, is there a setting I'm missing?
I've got a few more questions, however I'll reference the help docs some more in hopes of an answer.
So far I'm not impressed, maybe I'm missing something?
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Quote: Pardon me, but I simply don't see what you are talking about when you make such claims MY CLAIMS ARE I USE IT, AND IT IS A HECK OF A PROGRAM. I am not MTU, and Don't sell MTU products. I am a very Satisfied user, and have been so for better than 5 years. Aparrently Quote: I'm an avid Compuhost supporter and user If you don't like the program more power to you.
My suggestion is to try it, and make up your mind for yourself.
However, It requires internet explorer 7, and Windows media player 11 or 12 to work properly.
Sheez......
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DannyG2006 @ Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:22 pm wrote: EElvis @ Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:50 pm wrote: Quote: Pardon me, but I simply don't see what you are talking about when you make such claims MY CLAIMS ARE I USE IT, AND IT IS A HECK OF A PROGRAM. I am not MTU, and Don't sell MTU products. I am a very Satisfied user, and have been so for better than 5 years. Aparrently Quote: I'm an avid Compuhost supporter and user If you don't like the program more power to you. My suggestion is to try it, and make up your mind for yourself.However, It requires internet explorer 7, and Windows media player 11 or 12 to work properly. Sheez...... sorry for the double post. Meant to edit the prior one.
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RLC @ Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:28 pm wrote: DannyG2006 @ Sat Feb 25, 2006 11:48 am wrote: Prefer RoxBox which soon will be KJAMP. The new KJAMP has supposedy been "coming out" for well over a year now.  I am starting to wonder if it will ever happen? Any insight Danny? I stopped waiting for it when I got my Vista Laptop and hearing some horror stories about the compatability between the winamp based hosting softwares and Vista.
I have moved onto CompuHost which has by far more features than RoxBox does.
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EElvis @ Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:50 pm wrote: Quote: Pardon me, but I simply don't see what you are talking about when you make such claims MY CLAIMS ARE I USE IT, AND IT IS A HECK OF A PROGRAM. I am not MTU, and Don't sell MTU products. I am a very Satisfied user, and have been so for better than 5 years. Aparrently Quote: I'm an avid Compuhost supporter and user If you don't like the program more power to you. My suggestion is to try it, and make up your mind for yourself.However, It requires internet explorer 7, and Windows media player 11 or 12 to work properly. This is wrong. Compuhost requires none of those things.
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DannyG2006 @ Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:22 pm wrote: EElvis @ Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:50 pm wrote:
However, It requires internet explorer 7, and Windows media player 11 or 12 to work properly.
Sheez......
Add to it that it is NOT Vista compatable while most of the highend costing software is (CompuHost and Siglos Professional).I think he was saying CompuHost needs those things. It doesn't, nor does MTU Hoster.
I own both Hoster and CompuHost, and I use CompuHost for gigs. (I actually use Hoster for practice because it handles set lists of songs better.)
The biggest deficiency for MTU Hoster is search. You must type in the exact words of a title or artist. With any other program, you can type in "strait all ex" and get only one of George's songs.
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