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jr,
 I appreciate your support and the others who have emailed me and IM'ed me with their support too... they know if they post public support for me that they would get lambasted and attacked too... I have no idea why the personal attack on me was made as my original post that was quoted was not even directed at an individual... I don't post as much for many of the same reasons you listed and more... thanks again...

Tig

hmmm awfully quiet in here now... where are the knowitalls now???  where are the moderators who contributed to this discussion and who brought up the issues of streaming, internet distribution, public access, podcasting, educational purposes and commercial use?  Unlike many others on here, I post on things I know what the hell I am talking about, not drunk delusions of how I think things are or how they should be.  I have even went as far as to provide quite a few links relating to my post to back it up and many posts on other topics that are brought up here.  Not a single word by those who turned this discussion into such a hot thread or who started the personal attacks and name calling.  I do expect a handful of people on this site to use the information I posted to preach to others and to act as if they knew it all along.  They know who they are.  Thank you for bringing some humor back to this site for me.  Your hypocrisy knows no bounds and I thank you for that.  Maybe google isn't the best place to look for answers...  I don't expect this post to last long or possibly my membership on here after this so we'll have to wait and see...  

 FYI- I also come from a radio broadcasting background but what the hell do I know...  


Tig

Tigrr,

I'm glad others support your logical points of view (although privately), but why would they fear from being lamblasted by others publicly?

Right is right and wrong is just wrong. Conduct shows civility. no disrespect for you Tig , i know you can more than defend yourself.

I know a few  people here "feel" sympathy (or whatever) for Ollie since he's a bit older, but to put up with the HARSH ramblings of his ( i recall several) and attacks on others while perpetuating his "professionalism and 1000 year's experience", (slight exaggeration) not to mention a huge ego (insecurity), makes me wanna puke..but more importantly, to remind him of some ettiquette and to think before he opens his  pie-hole.

To be fair, i've also witnessed him post some nice and personable things, but he seems to be like an aging lion trying to get back on top with outdated tactics.

I'm fairly new here and if i'm kicked out or not well-liked for being honest then so be it.  i'm here to learn and share my .002 ,but if it's a clique...then i recall graduating high school almost 25 years ago.

Tig, don't stop posting! You have lots of great information and experience, and are willing to share it with others-  them newbies need lots of help.
( i've read your "work" on other forums and respected your viewpoints)

p.s. apologies to others not involved and i'll try not to to hijack this thread again.
I really can't stand DRAMA, but it irks me when people are rude and attack others.

BTW, music between singers is a great concept.  :oh yeah:

Luvya man..  You missed the original gest of the question. If one re-creation does not require a license and is not considered distribution for sales how can one downstream on the net be considered distribution? It is not for profit and and in no way infringes upon the original producers and I really doubt if there is a federal judge who would consider a frivilous case such as this.

My experience includes that of the broadcast industry and the vendor industry including music distribution via jukeboxes. I AM A REBEL. I do not promulgate or support those who support those that abuse shady laws to extract monies from the true working class.
These tactics do absolutely nothing for our cause  or profit and I really dont know why  it is so strictly adhered  to and everything is biased toward the henchmen and corrupt manus on this forum. If this was publicized most bars would not even consider karaoke.  For 2-3 years I have fought and presented links which most do no read they just want to put oyt the word how bad we are..

If you want to roll over dead and let others run over you then go ahead. I will continue to fight for the KJ'S and DJ"S here' I will question every psuedo interpretation of laws that everybody yells about. Take your liberal BS and shove it!!!
This is America not China.

Do not hide behind your avatar My name is Mr Smith I am at 970-213-2726..

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here we go again...
  you obviously did not read any of the links I posted either... you posted on what you THINK should be reality and I posted on what IS reality... I was not giving any psuedo interpretation of the law as you so deleriously stated but simply posted the information available for others to read and make up their own minds- this being America and not China and all...

 I really have no idea where the lawsuit and federal judge comes into this as I posted about the FACT that for streaming music(and if you read any of the links you would see podcasts and many other forms of media) have to be licensed for distribution i.e. internet, and it doesn't matter if it is for profit or not... whether YOU like it or not that is where things stand as of now- I made no comment on whether it was right or wrong or in what situations it should or should not apply, just that it is the way things are now...

 will someone be sued for having streaming media on their website and no license? most likely not considering how large the internet is and it is the same risk that digital karaoke shows run when using karaoke songs they do not have the original discs for- will they get caught??? All it takes is the right person to hear, or see something on a webpage to turn an innocent personal webpage into a lawsuit- take alook at all the youtube videos pulled simply for having tiny snippets of an artists music or other licensed media in them... many artists are shutting down their own fan websites that are not the OFFICIAL page of that artist- music, pics or anything in their likeness... enforcement is a joke in this industry and the internet in general.

 how many shows do you know of that operate that way??? why aren't you busting down the doors to their gigs and being the REBEL that you are??? how much money are they extracting from the true working class???  if you don't like the licensing policy then take that up with the licensing companies- they are the ones who set the bar for using music and media not me, or anyoneelse on here... you are shooting the messenger because of the message because you don't like it or agree with it... you picked out ONE point I made, didn't address it, and went on your rant about your experience, being a REBEL, your thoughts on the henchmen and corrupt manufacturers on THIS forum, big business and of course me... thanks for not leaving me out, I woulda been heartbroken...  

 The funniest thing about it is that, for the most part, I agree with most of what you have ever posted on here, Ollie, but your message gets lost in your outbursts, rants and personal attacks when you don't agree with a policy, law or statement.  anyone who has ever read any of my posts knows where I stand on these issues... I have not posted as much in the last year or so simply because of the idiots who have overtaken this site... I really have nothing further to say to you as I expect another infuriated response to this.  you never know if someone is an idiot until they open their mouth... bombs away...

PS it is hillarious the people who have viewed this exchange, not counting the countless "anonymous" viewers, and not said a single thing... not a peep from them... moderators??? not a peep... funny stuff...

Tig AKA Mike Powers, Portland, OR
registered conservative republican

Sorry... didn't mean to cause an argument.

Dj Tuck, you didn't start an arguement. You just gave Ollie a reason to vent his personal life's stress- it wasn't your fault. He's a ticking time bomb (dud).

"I will continue to fight for the DJ'S and KJ'S here" as Ollie stated.

Who the heck died and wants Y-O-U to represent anything? Especially the people here who ARE SMARTER THAN YOU!
YOU can't even represent yourself personally or professionally and have anger issues.

And a REBEL?? most guys stop using that term in their 20's...this is getting funnier each post!!
 LMAO  LOL  LOL

Thanks, that makes me feel better.

I DJ/KJ using virtual DJ software which has a great sampler feature. I use it alot for beat loops and appropriate sayings in between songs and singers. You can pre record beat loops, song portions, and I record different messeges that I might want to relay to the crowd at the touch of a button. Once and awhile even a short Foxworthy or Carrington bit to suit the crowd. A very handy option indeed!

I will play 30secs or so in between singers to keep the party moving along most customers seem to like a few bars from a snappy song. That is what this post is about isn't it?  :wave:

I've seen this done using a minidisc recorder with reasonable effect

You can also plug your ipod into your board very simply for bumper music. I don't but will soon begin utilizing a laptop with all my OWNED music loaded onto it, organized into folders so I can play music appropriate to each location. Right now I have a six-disc changer in my rack to do that...but I do a lot of DJ'ing and running 4 different decks and synching them is almost more than I want to do anymore what with the improved technology.

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