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Steven Kaplan
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:42 am |
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Quote: If the zoo is negligent in the needed enclosure dimensions, then they must accept some responsibility. We agree ! The cat ESCAPED. She was OUT walking around attacking people. Why was she able to escape ? Quote: You shouldn't have been masturbating in public, at the zoo....I would have thrown rocks at you too...
Stupid activity gets a reaction
Yeah Well, Wasn't much else to do in that cage. All I could do was hangout. A swinger of sorts. I was young and restless and bored tryin to make some frontpage news, She was a black-haired beauty with big dark eyes and points all her own sitting way up high, way up firm and high, and the wonder, we felt the lightening, and we waited on the thunder.
_________________ Northeast United States runner up for the "Singing Hall of Shame".
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knightshow
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 2:41 pm |
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because the tiger was PASSIVE until someone F*D with it Steve!!!
they have AMAZING abilities to leap.
THIS video is part of a much larger one, where they were attempting to subdue a tiger with a tranquilizer.
Do I agree the enclosure should have been equipped with higher walls? Sure! Should the moat have been filled in? YES! But you have a pi$$ed off tiger, he is GOING to get at those that pi$$ him OFF!
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sidewinder
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 4:00 pm |
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The tiger in the video wasn't looking for lunch either. He was out to end a threat he felt towards him. He was right. They were looking for him, he wasn't hunting for them, until he was put in the position to be the hunted. Now it's kill or be killed.
He's just doing normal tiger things.
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Steven Kaplan
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:18 pm |
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Quote: Do I agree the enclosure should have been equipped with higher walls? Sure! Should the moat have been filled in? YES! But you have a pi$$ed off tiger, he is GOING to get at those that pi$$ him OFF!
I've seen that video Matt. Assuming a Pi$$ed off tiger that has displayed extreme aggression in the past (towards a person that didn't F*** with it, meaning a cat that admittedly has been known to display unpredictable and violent behaviour towards humans) STILL has the ability to escape its enclosure in a zoo setting where the zoo employees aren't prepared to immediately respond to such a crises during open for business hours, and the potentially deadly animals enclosure has no supervision or monitoring system to prevent such an episode from transpiring during business hours (meaning NO guard/alarm/even closed circuit camera protecting the tiger from human behaviour AND similarly patrons from the tiger) that zoo is a dangerous place, and responsible for what the tiger does when it escapes it's enclosore. Nobody is saying the kids were angels, I addressed that a few paragraphs back. Yet how can ANYONE believe given the set of circumstances involving THIS particular case the zoo shouldn't be held accountable for the escape of an aggressive tiger ? A women *extremely* experienced in dealing with tigers lost her arm to this cat last year while she was outside the cage. An innocent visitor could've lost their life to that cat. Assuming this were not the case, the employee's wouldn't have all freaked and the zoo instead of respond, go into lockdown leaving whatever happens in "Gods hands". If nothing else, the zoo is responsible for putting OTHER innocent visitors lives at risk.
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knightshow
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:11 am |
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hey, I agree. But rules STILL have to be obeyed.
A speeding car has the lethal ability to murder dozens if not hundreds of people. There are LAWS in place on HOW to behave on the open road. You do the wrong thing, you can have those rights taken away from you. You KILL people with a car, it CAN and WILL be MANSLAUGHTER!
The people to blame are those that t!cked off the tiger AND those that didn't make the barricade more harder for the incensed tiger to leave. Like that video shows, those great cats have UNBELIEVEABLE agility and stamina. There's a reason why Lions are the KING of the jungle (with the females doing the majority of the hunting no less). Bengall tigers have always been known as maneaters!
The problem here is these tigers have long been known for their domestic-type behaviors... most of the time, they've been very non-agressive. Even boring in their caged habitat.
Let's face it. Yes the San Francisco zoo screwed the pooch big time. But it took a lot to take that tiger to the next stage. Those kids share in the blame!
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knightshow
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:48 am |
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by the way, in the earlier incident you mentioned, the woman that was an expert... was faulted as were other staff members, as being improperly trained.
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sidewinder
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:01 am |
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Since when has a wild tiger not been known to display aggresively? It's a tiger... That's what tigers do sometimes. I wouldn't consider it's behavior un-normal or overly aggressive. It's a wild tiger. Doesn't matter if it's Sigfreid and Roys or it's in your livingroom or a zoo or the wild. It will always display tiger tendancies. Which includes but is not limited to, attacking something living. If it didn't act agressisively once in a while, it wouldn't be normal.
Ask Roy if there's such a thing as a tame tiger... ![LOL LOL](./images/smilies/emot-LOL.gif)
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knightshow
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:12 am |
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one of the latest news to leak confirms the suspicion that the moat being drained is how the tiger got out...
"Tatiana's feet were also found to have concrete chips, suggesting that she climbed out of the moat using her claws on the wall."
San Francisco Chronicle, 2007-12-27.
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sidewinder
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:42 am |
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One very determined, powerful, pi$$ed off cat. Think about a cat climbing a straight cement wall 12 feet high.
I watched a mouse climb up an 8 foot high cement block wall. He did it in a corner. With 2 feet on one wall and 2 feet on the other. He flew up the wall like he was running on the flat. I was very impressed with the little fellow. And amazed. If someone would have bet me that it could happen i would have said no way. Could that tiger do it again? maybe, maybe not. It could have been a fluke thing.
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