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 Post subject: Re: Duplicates
PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 8:50 am 
RLC

You're the one who asked "what are you talking about" when I indicated S&d lacks safeguards against importing duplicate files.  As an expert on S&D you surely knew that, so why did you ask?

And, as an expert, maybe you can direct me towards the software you suggested is out there that will prevent such duplicate imports?


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ericlater @ Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:50 am wrote:
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You're the one who asked "what are you talking about" when I indicated S&d lacks safeguards against importing duplicate files.  As an expert on S&D you surely knew that, so why did you ask?

And, as an expert, maybe you can direct me towards the software you suggested is out there that will prevent such duplicate imports?

Compuhost.


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ericlater @ Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:24 am wrote:
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One of the things to be very aware of when using S&D Software is that there are no built-in safeguards against importing duplicate files.  If you import a folder labeled "a", S&D will immediately thereafter, upon command, import the very same folder labeled "a".

However, once you get experienced in dealing directly with the database table noted in my previous post, you can eliminate such a duplicate quite easily



All I am saying is that you seem to imply here that once you select the import command that S & D takes over and imports without any user input when that simply is not true. The user selects which folders to import.

I believe mckyj57 answered your second question.

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 Post subject: Re: Duplicates
PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 3:47 pm 
I don't believe you or Mcky answered anything! Which is not surprising to me.
Seemingly I don't write English clearly enough for either of you!

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Posted: Sunday 1/27/08 at 3:45pm PST  
All I am saying is that you seem to imply here that once you select the import command that S & D takes over and imports without any user input when that simply is not true. The user selects which folders to import


The above post was in direct response to this post of mine on Sunday 1/27/08 at
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One of the things to be very aware of when using S&D Software is that there are no built-in safeguards against importing duplicate files.  If you import a folder labeled "a", S&D will immediately thereafter, upon command, import the very same folder labeled "a".


If you actually read it, I never indicate that the S&D software (itself) selects what folders to import or that S&D "takes over" the function.  I clearly indicated what might happen would occur "upon command".  So pray tell why made you infer something quite to the contrary.  I never implied or hinted, as how you interpreted my post, that anyone but the user is responsible for determining what S&D imports.  In fact, my reference to "brainfarts" should have made it clear enough response for you to deduce exactly what I had said.  

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Your method would work, never said it wouldn't...but it is not the only solution. to DJ Tuck's question.


Ah, but it is one of only two solutions I know of to eliminate duplicate tracks and the other would require that the duplicated tracks constantly be eliminated from the zip file(s) containing the Karaoke tracks!!!  

Now, what is the solution that you have in mind?

And to suggest that Compuhost is a solution when I am using S&D software and  have no problem with is both presumptuous and ridiculous.  And from what was offered by DJTuck in this thread there's no evidence that he has a problem with S&D either.  I know I would never change software just to avoid the inconvenience of duplicate tracks cropping up on occasion!  Would you change your hosting software for that reason.

So, Mr RLC I am still awaiting you suggestion(s) on software that would eliminate this inconvenience and that is cost-justified as to resolving the issue!!


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:09 pm 
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Describe the software you are looking for EXACTLY I haven't written any code for months and I have just been snowed in so that's going to leave me a lot of free time once the beer runs out.

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I don't believe you or Mcky answered anything! Which is not surprising to me.

I believe the answer mckyj57 provided is just that, an answer to your question about which software is out there that would eliminate this so called problem. Reread your own question. In fact you ask it again at the end of your previous post.



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Ah, but it is one of only two solutions I know of to eliminate duplicate tracks and the other would require that the duplicated tracks constantly be eliminated from the zip file(s) containing the Karaoke tracks!!!

Now, what is the solution that you have in mind?


I already offered one...reread the thread.

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And to suggest that Compuhost is a solution when I am using S&D software and  have no problem with is both presumptuous and ridiculous.  And from what was offered by DJTuck in this thread there's no evidence that he has a problem with S&D either.  I know I would never change software just to avoid the inconvenience of duplicate tracks cropping up on occasion!  Would you change your hosting software for that reason.


We didn't suggest you switch to Compuhost, just offered it up as an answer to your question about which software out there would eliminate the problem you feel is of concern.
I, too, use and am completely satisfied with S&D and don't plan to use another program. I do not have any problems with S&D or how it handles the database.

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One of the things to be very aware of when using S&D Software is that there are no built-in safeguards against importing duplicate files.  If you import a folder labeled "a", S&D will immediately thereafter, upon command, import the very same folder labeled "a".


I guess what you are looking for then is "idiot" proof software...sorry I can't help you there.


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So, Mr RLC I am still awaiting you suggestion(s) on software that would eliminate this inconvenience and that is cost-justified as to resolving the issue!!



I am through with this pi$$ing match with you...feel free to claim victory...frankly I don't give a rats @$$.

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 Post subject: Re: Duplicates
PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:41 pm 
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RLC @ Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:23 pm wrote:
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I don't believe you or Mcky answered anything! Which is not surprising to me.

I believe the answer mckyj57 provided is just that, an answer to your question about which software is out there that would eliminate this so called problem. Reread your own question. In fact you ask it again at the end of your previous post.

I will confess -- I did happen to know ericlater carries a chip on his shoulder. But I thought my answer was responsive *and* funny.


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Been rethinking compuhost but I know that Fast tracks doesn't have the naming convention that I need to import over half of my songs and I really don't want to rename them all over again or edit the database. It's one of the reasons I won't go AUtoKDJ. If they included artist - title - discid-track then I would consider purchasing it when I get my tax refund.

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DannyG2006 @ Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:06 pm wrote:
Been rethinking compuhost but I know that Fast tracks doesn't have the naming convention that I need to import over half of my songs and I really don't want to rename them all over again or edit the database. It's one of the reasons I won't go AUtoKDJ. If they included artist - title - discid-track then I would consider purchasing it when I get my tax refund.

Okay answered my question of what naming conventions Compuhost uses by trying the demo and I probably will be buying it.  No real learning curve from the software I am using now (JustKaraoke) as the interface is close to what JustKaraoke is. Only difference is the way you select their songs. Singer first and then the song.  Just Karaoke has you selecting the song and then the singer with everything visable on the screen (only box that apears is the one selecting the singer).

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DannyG2006 @ Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:06 pm wrote:
Been rethinking compuhost but I know that Fast tracks doesn't have the naming convention that I need to import over half of my songs and I really don't want to rename them all over again or edit the database. It's one of the reasons I won't go AUtoKDJ. If they included artist - title - discid-track then I would consider purchasing it when I get my tax refund.

Aren't there any auto-renamers?

I would just write a perl script, myself:

Code:

#!/usr/bin/perl

use File::Find;
use Getopt::Std;

my %opt;
getopts('vr', \%opt);

my $verbose = $opt{v};

my $reverse = $opt{r};

my $wanted = sub {
   return unless -f $_;
   return unless /\.(cdg|zip|mp3)$/i;

   my $fn = $_;
   $fn =~ m{(.*?) - (.*?) - (.*?)\.(\w+)$}
      or do {
         warn "$File::Find::name doesn't match our pattern, skipping.\n";
         return;
      };
   my $newname = $reverse ?  "$2 - $3 - $1.$4" : "$3 - $1 - $2.$4";

   rename $fn, $newname
      or do {
         warn "$File::Find::name: unable to rename to $newname.\n";
         return;
      };

   warn "$fn\n ==> $newname\n" if $verbose;

};

my $dir = shift || '.';

File::Find::find($wanted, $dir);



That will work, by the way. If you were to get ActiveState Perl you could rename an entire tree of files that way in minutes.


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Guys guys, everyone just calm down!  I got some suggestions and will try them when I get the time.

BTW, all of my Karaoke files are in one master folder marked Karaoke, so I just tell S&D to import that one folder and boom I'm done.  My prob. w/ dups was that I have multiple files of the same song (not just one song, but multiple songs) in different folders.  Basically I need to clean house (which was a suggestion given to me in a Karaoke chat room I was in earlier this week.)

RLC & Mckyj thanks for all ur support with the S&D software, not just with this question, but with others in the past.

Ok, so everyone can stop arguing now -right? Cause the question has been answered.


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