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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 12:14 pm 
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I am seriously considering picking up a couple PRX535s and a couple of PRX518s. Any feedback good or bad would be appreciated. I don't think I have a store close enough to actually get to hear these puppies in person. I'm more concerned with how much bottom end I can get out of the 518s.

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The do rock, however I like the QSC powered line a bit better IMO.

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Lonman @ Sun Feb 03, 2008 3:26 pm wrote:
The do rock, however I like the QSC powered line a bit better IMO.


Actually the QSC HPR153I was my first choice also but, they are 45" tall which means they won't fit through the side door of the van. The JBL PRX535 is 42" tall and actually has a bit more continuous power. I also am a big QSC fan. Maybe I should buy the PRX tops and the QSC HPR181I bottoms. So much for being symmetrical LOL . Do you have hands on experience with any of these Lonnie?

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I ran a band with both sets (not together of course, different clubs) & the QSC sounded stronger in the situation.  The JBL still sounded good, just not quite as full.

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The JBL's are not bad. Nor are the QSC. They are both about the same. I think the QSC has a little more power to them as far as sound.

I'm not a fan of 3 way speakers, they have too much mid frequency for me.

I would suggest looking at what Yorkville has to offer before buying either of these setups.

If i had to pick between the 2 you have selected the QSC has a 6 year warrenty vs JBL's 3 year.


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lyquiddye @ Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:04 pm wrote:
The JBL's are not bad. Nor are the QSC. They are both about the same. I think the QSC has a little more power to them as far as sound.

I'm not a fan of 3 way speakers, they have too much mid frequency for me.

I would suggest looking at what Yorkville has to offer before buying either of these setups.

If i had to pick between the 2 you have selected the QSC has a 6 year warrenty vs JBL's 3 year.


The more I've been researching the more I'm deciding against the PRX Line. I've also ruled out the Mackie mainly because of their appetite for electricity and prone to thermal shut downs under heavy use not to mention I hear their 18" subs can emanate some pretty interesting sounds of their own design. I have been Considering the Yorkies, I'm very curious about their U15P, interesting design and I've read a lot of good revues on them. I've also been hearing that their L800P kicks pretty good or maybe even their UCS1P. If anyone has had first hand experience with any of these I'd love to hear about it. So for me right now just the QSC's and the Yorkvilles are in the running.

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I own a pair of LS800P They pound. Insane amounts of bass.
One of my other DJ's has a pair of Yorkville NX720S they are very nice also great sound just a but tighter sound coming from a 15" instead of an 18"

They both come in painted and carpet. I think the painted look much more professional.


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So are you saying in your opinion the 800P are a punchier sub than the HPR118i ? I know you mentioned you weren't a fan of threeways but I would think that would be more of a design issue with a particular manufacturer than an issue with a three  way in general. You know matching the output between the low, mid and high properly. I'll tell you my reasoning behind for example the 153i or the U15p or possibly another model. In a smaller situation I wouldn't need to carry the subs and would still get a pretty decent sound, in a larger situation throw em on top of a couple of good subs and really take care of some business. What tops have you been using?

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The 15" Yorkville has more punch than the 18" Comparing the QSC to the Yorkville, the Yorkville has more power and out performs the QSC.

I use a few different sets of tops. When I run the complete active system. I use Yorkville EF500PB.

I also use LS800p's with a pair of Turbosound TXD-151's and TXD-121's. When I am using a single sub setup.


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Are you refereing to the NX720S or the or the UCS1P? If your saying the 720 my question would be, have you have heard the UCS1P? I haven't but I've read a lot of good revues on this rascal as well as the U15P.

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Do you think these could carry a smaller room on their own or would I still be better off using a three way in this situation like the U15P. I like to travel with as little gear as I can get away with and still maintain a professional sound.

Your input has been helpfull so far, I haven't heard from many people with first hand experience with Yorkville. I do know they make some pretty nice gear, but whats up with the two year warranty LOL

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I have heard The UCS1P. Not in a event setting but in a convention setup. I know they are 1500 watts and can pound if needed. The huy that works for ne has the 720's. I still like the 18" sub with 15" tops.

For smaller setups the Mains definatly have enough power to them, but for a rich full sound a sub should always be used. You can get away with just 1 sub in small settings.

2 year warenty even if you break it. These speakers are built like tanks I tried to blow one when I first got them it won't happen. They just shut off when you try to over power them. You can then turn them off and back on and they work like a champ.

2 tops and 2 subs for $4600 you are getting one hell of a system. You should be able to go even cheaper than that I have seen the 800's for $900 Got mine for $875 shipped. I want to say I paid $2000 shipped for my tops. So I got mine for under $3800


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You should be able to go even cheaper than that I have seen the 800's for $900 Got mine for $875 shipped.


I'm certainly leaning towards the Yorkies at this time and a good price like that would clinch the deal I think, this is no time to be shy, go ahead and be a name dropper LOL

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Just curious, but why powered speakers? Have you heard a couple of Yamaha S115V speakers with a couple of subs? They even sound great without subs. You need to go somewhere were you can take some time and listen to speakers before you buy them. Guitar Center, Sam Ash etc. Take some of your music with you that you know well and take your time. Bring CDs or an MP3 player. Find out some good choices here like you're doing and then go listen to the recommendations up close and in person. Even if you have to drive an hour or two to get there, it's worth it. Try different eq settings. Push some power through them and listen to them at different volume levels.


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Fair question, because I'm old and I want to carry less gear but I will not compromise sound quality. right now an average set up for me is three power amps, 2 Mackie 1400Is and 1 Yamaha P5000s, two 18 inch subs, Peavey lowriders, two mids JBL K130s, two JBL 2425J compression horns, to hook this up I use a driverack and some other external processors and about a million miles of various cables because I run a threeway system. By the way I run mostly Live Sound, canned music is a small fraction of what I do. Depending on the set up and the way its wired the amps can putout up to a total of 5400 watts max total. I think the way I have it configured right now I'm using roughly 3000 watts.The Yorkville LS800P subs putout 1500 watts each and if I go with the U15P they put out 900 watts each, I believe the EF500P does slightly less at 800 watts each. So I think you can see that would be a total of about 4800 watts and only wheel in 4 cabinets, no xover needed, no amp rack needed and no BenGay needed(hopefully). This should give me a system that I shouldn't have to worry about time alignment or phasing (in theory)
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Yes I have, and they are fine speakers for what they are, they would not hold up well in my situation though. Comparing a Yamaha S115V to a Yorkville EF500P (two way) or the Yorkville U15P  (threeway) isn't a fair battle by any stretch of the
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Even if you have to drive and hour or to to get there, it's worth it.

You are of course correct, I did finally locate a "stocking" dealer about 50 miles from here which I will be visiting either today or tomorrow. Actually hearing them is of course the best way to decide, I didn't think I was going to be able to locate any locally, thats why I've been reading a lot of forums here and over on ProAudio and a few others. I've read nothing but glowing reviews and would have been fairly comfortable buying them without hearing them.  You might find this interesting http://www.cobrasound.com/shootout06  

I hope I have quelled your curiosity. Their are a few people on here that know me well enough to know I do a tremendous amount of homework before I part with even a penny, Yes I can be cheap LOL.  Bottom line is in the almost 40 years now that I have been doing this, it's better to get what you should have and not what you can get by with and in my experience, quality always wins out over price. It's kinda like that ole Valvoline commercial....you can pay me now or you can pay me later LOL When this adventure started for me I was Comparing the SA series Mackies, PRX series JBL, HPR series QSC and The Elite and Unity series from Yorkville. After about a week of reading and comparing stats and getting input from people that own some of this gear, I have decided on the Yorkville, I'm pretty sure I won't be regretting my decision. I'll even tell you that after all this I rate them like this, mind you this is just my opinion and these are all competing for the same market.

1) Yorkville Elite or Unity...just didn't find anything negative about them. Best of all the subs, very nice sound and reliable.
2) QSC HPR Series, many favorable reviews, very well made, reliable, but not quite in the same league as the Yorkville
3) JBK PRX Series, They are a bit thin sounding, not made as well as perhaps the QSC, Just didn't seem to live up to what the specs would indicate. Most reviews were favorable but their were some good points made on some issues.
4) Mackie Sa Series, they appear to like electricity more than the others, sound quality is good, the reviews were like a 50/50 thing, you either loved them or hated them, but thermal shut downs perhaps from lack of electricity seemed to be a major issue as well as some reliability complaints.

I went into this with the PRX in mind, but you see what happened. I got a little carried away with all this typing, but now.....you know the rest of the story.

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Sounds like you really do do your homework thoroughly. You also sound like you really know what you're doing. Let us know what you get and how it worked out for you.


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Weuse Yorkville NX520s (they evolved into NX550 and then NX55), with Yorkville LS700s, and provide all the quality sound and thump you need.  Yorkville also makes NX750 15" tops.  The are easy to hook up and the warranty is fantastic (if you ever have to use it).  We use them six nights a week in a mobile setting,  Pictures are in my gallery.  For the first 2 years they are completely covered, so if you drop them from an airplane, they will repair or replace.  Harryoke in Florida rolled his van and his Yorks flew out and landed in the swamp.  He dried them out and he's still using them.  Tanks they be.

The main advantages of powered speakers are they are virtually impossible to blow out and if one goes down, the others keep playing.  You blow your amp and the show's over (unless you carry a spare, more expense).

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