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 Post subject: Re: Compuhost Hiccups???
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mckyj57 @ Sat Feb 02, 2008 9:10 am wrote:
The point is, that if you *ever* have the system hooked up to the net and do anything with it, you are just as much as risk when you are disconnected as when you are connected. Most people get infected and don't even know it.

So if you ever hook up to the Internet with the system, you likely have as much chance of having a problem as if you are hooked up right then and there.

Run scared if you want. But I am here to tell people the sky is *not* falling. I won't say any more than this. You all can chime in once more and say the sky is falling.


HELP HENNY PENNY, the SKY is falling!!!!  If you don't believe me, check out the 609 security bullitins from Microsoft here.....
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/current.aspx

And from... http://www.microsoft.com/technet/securi ... 8-001.mspx from Jan 8, 2008...
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This critical security update resolves two privately reported vulnerabilities in Transmission Control Protocol/Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) processing. An attacker who successfully exploited this vulnerability could take complete control of an affected system. An attacker could then install programs; view, change, or delete data; or create new accounts with full user rights.



Personally, my gig computers have NEVER been on the internet.


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If you are a computer genius and have back up computers.  Do the net all you want.  But i won't subject my show computer to the internet.   People can wait a week to sing a song.   It will make sure they come back next week.  And it will make sure your computer will last the entire show.   :O  

If you crash and burn during the show, what good was that instant song???   Not only did you not get their song, now you don't get paid, either.   What makes more sense???   Their song or your money??? :whistle:


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since I use my computer as a player only, I prefer to have the actual cdgs.

This stance will change once they stop burning custom discs or pressed ones. But for now, I'd rather be able to prove ownership if ever questioned on it.


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A paid receipt should be good enough proof.  And i highly doubt if you will ever be asked to prove anything on the spot.  As with any accusation you are given ample time to produce your defense.

Anyone that wants to make a good bust, wants to be sure they have you tied up completely.  Without a doubt in their mind.

I still think dragging discs to a show on the outside chance that you would have to prove anything, is a waste of time and energy.   I'll take my chances in court.


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Hey Tray,

I run a Karaoke show in the Atlanta area and use CompuHost as well. I love the program and take advantage of all the features including Video and the Filler Tune feature.

One reason you may be experiencing the "hiccup" is memory. I have the full 2 gigs of memory on my laptop and run Filler Tunes and a slideshow with few problems. If my filler songs "hiccup" I just shut off my slideshow to free up some memory and that takes care of the problem.

Hope this helps

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sidewinder @ Sun Feb 03, 2008 3:47 am wrote:
A paid receipt should be good enough proof.  And i highly doubt if you will ever be asked to prove anything on the spot.  As with any accusation you are given ample time to produce your defense.

Anyone that wants to make a good bust, wants to be sure they have you tied up completely.  Without a doubt in their mind.

I still think dragging discs to a show on the outside chance that you would have to prove anything, is a waste of time and energy.   I'll take my chances in court.
you can keep receipts of cdgs... but do you still own them if you SELL them to someone else? Just because you bought the track, how do you prove that you still have the legal right to it?

The physical disc solves that for me.


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Don't download sites or credit card company give receipts?   When was the last time your mortgage company said you didn't own your house?   Pay a bill get a receipt.  Last time i checked receipts were considered legal proof of payment and ownership.

I don't drag my house around to prove i own it.   Or the deed.   Or the payment book.    If you weren't doing anything illegal you wouldn't have to prove anything. :dancin:


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yeah, so says the guy that won't tell people where he does his shows! LOL!

Sorry, your credibility is done as far as I'm concerned!

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knightshow @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 12:40 am wrote:
sidewinder @ Sun Feb 03, 2008 3:47 am wrote:
A paid receipt should be good enough proof.  And i highly doubt if you will ever be asked to prove anything on the spot.  As with any accusation you are given ample time to produce your defense.

Anyone that wants to make a good bust, wants to be sure they have you tied up completely.  Without a doubt in their mind.

I still think dragging discs to a show on the outside chance that you would have to prove anything, is a waste of time and energy.   I'll take my chances in court.
you can keep receipts of cdgs... but do you still own them if you SELL them to someone else? Just because you bought the track, how do you prove that you still have the legal right to it?

The physical disc solves that for me.

You can of course prove you have the right. You just can't prove you haven't illegally re-distributed the song. You can't prove that with a CDG, either, so like it or not you are in the same boat.


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Hmmmm....wondering if having the internet on the whole time had anything to do with it, or well...I just dunno.....any one else had this prob???


THe general problem with operating systems/programs is that a lot of them get installed and are running in the background. Internet is often going to be a big resource hog, but other things may be going on as well....

Some virus protection software can be particularly bad when dealing with many large files like songs. That is not to say that you should get rid of virus protection just sometimes they can cause problems.

Many other programs from screen savers, to specialty mouse cursors and other third party bells and whistles on the operating system can cause problems as well.

Probably a good thing to do if the problem continues (without the internet, which is the most likely cause) is to go through the startup programs and remove all of the "extra" stuff that was added. Sometimes the computer can be sold pre-loaded with so many extras that it significantly lowers performance from the begining.

In extreme cases it may be best to re-install the operating system and be extra careful when installing anything in the future to be sure it is really needed.

Having extra memory or a faster processor helps, but eventually if too much "junk" is loaded on the bootup, then even a computer that should be fast can be considerably slowed.

The third possiblity after internet and other programs running in the background is the hard drive. If the hard drive has been filled and emptied multiple times it may be very fragmented. This can really slow down the time it takes to load and play song files. Use the defragment option and it could help a lot, not just on the pauses but general computer performance.


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If you handle the loading of songs yourself and know without a doubt there is no virus to worry about, because you have ripped the disc on another computer or you have already checked it for a virus, you don't need a virus protection on your karaoke show computer to mess anything up.  Delete it and run a clean computer without all the internet junk and unnecessary programs running in the background.


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To get this thread back on topic.....CompuHost.....is not the problem. The software is very stable, however it can tap system resources (Ram) so you are best to have a minimum of 2Gig.  This is probably the culprit.

The only other suggestion is to re-rip the song in question from the original CDG and see if that helps. Try this first to eliminate it as a potential problem. If it does not help then upgrade the RAM.

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The physical disc solves that for me.[/quote]
You can of course prove you have the right. You just can't prove you haven't illegally re-distributed the song. You can't prove that with a CDG, either, so like it or not you are in the same boat.[/quote]

If you go to court and you have a paid receipt you have proved beyond a shadow of doubt that you do indeed own that song legally.  If they want to say that you sold it 10,000 times, the burden of proof would be on them to show how and when you sold 10,000 copies.  Other than that they can stick it.   I showed you proof of ownership, show me i don't.


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sidewinder @ Sat Feb 09, 2008 1:14 am wrote:
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You can of course prove you have the right. You just can't prove you haven't illegally re-distributed the song. You can't prove that with a CDG, either, so like it or not you are in the same boat.


If you go to court and you have a paid receipt you have proved beyond a shadow of doubt that you do indeed own that song legally.  If they want to say that you sold it 10,000 times, the burden of proof would be on them to show how and when you sold 10,000 copies.  Other than that they can stick it.   I showed you proof of ownership, show me i don't.


I have to laugh at this mentality, you didn't buy the song, you bought the media that it is played on.  You do not have the right to do with it what you will, ask ANY IP attorney on that.  You can't buy a disc, transfer the media & get rid of the original & still have the right to play the song, proof of purchase or not!  Sometimes you actually have something to contribute, but then statements like this completely rescind any kind of intelligence that you may have!   :shock:

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Get your quotes right.  The first part is someone elses.  The second part is mine. :O

If i pay to download a song and have the receipt, it's my song.  I don't care what i do with it.  I can't sell it or give it away technically, but i can most certainly play it and i will.   I'll have the paper proof and you would have to prove differently.


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TTowntenor @ Sat Feb 09, 2008 5:27 am wrote:
sidewinder @ Sat Feb 09, 2008 1:14 am wrote:
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You can of course prove you have the right. You just can't prove you haven't illegally re-distributed the song. You can't prove that with a CDG, either, so like it or not you are in the same boat.


If you go to court and you have a paid receipt you have proved beyond a shadow of doubt that you do indeed own that song legally.  If they want to say that you sold it 10,000 times, the burden of proof would be on them to show how and when you sold 10,000 copies.  Other than that they can stick it.   I showed you proof of ownership, show me i don't.


I have to laugh at this mentality, you didn't buy the song, you bought the media that it is played on.  You do not have the right to do with it what you will, ask ANY IP attorney on that.  You can't buy a disc, transfer the media & get rid of the original & still have the right to play the song, proof of purchase or not!

That is the point. When you buy a downloaded song, you have bought the right to use it. Really. A non-transferable right.

When you buy a CDG, you buy a transferable right. Transferred by passing custody of the disk.

In both cases, you can prove you acquired the right with a receipt. What you can't do in either case is prove you haven't illegally transferred the recording to another. WIth a CDG you could rip it and let someone copy, with a downloaded version you could just let them copy.

So bottom line is that people who say CDGs prove something that download receipts don't are wrong.  It may give them some sort of warm feeling, but so does peeing down your leg. 8-)


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Talk about Hijacking a thread. The original question was a problem with Compuhost and it turned into a legal vs illegal pissing contest again. Come on guys can we help this person or not?....LOL

Start your own illegal vs legal thread and go for it.... LMAO

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Flipper @ Sat Feb 09, 2008 9:39 pm wrote:
Talk about Hijacking a thread. The original question was a problem with Compuhost and it turned into a legal vs illegal pissing contest again. Come on guys can we help this person or not?....LOL

Start your own illegal vs legal thread and go for it.... LMAO

Mea culpa. How did I get sucked into this again? Oh yeah, someone (as usual) talked about having only CDGs and being legal because of it. Same person? Oh yes, same one as usually does it.

Sorry for contributing to the (all too usual) disintegration of a thread.


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Let legalities have their own thread..  I just got compuhost a couple of weeks ago and i reckon it rules... unfortunately i ripped all my discs at the highest speed, so most songs have glitches and i have to do them all again... but i dont care a jot as the pc based system is so much more cruisier than discs.. 'twil be worth it in the long run :dancin:


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where do you run your show chris?

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