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Kappy perhaps your "friend" whom is widely "loved" here can take a cue from you and learn depricating humor. It is much more attractive than the know-it-all attitude that is displayed. He IS getting better it appears....thankfully for now.  J.R.

JR,  Honestly,  How many would be able to let the quantity of personal attacks roll off their back like he has ?  The numerous attacks have been ignored, he's absorbed them, and some even addressed, yet the response regarding why he wishes for anonymity went ignored too.

Perhaps some can take a lesson from HIM.. It's possible to ignore behaviour that one finds unpleasant. I might have a SOH, yet I couldn't take what he's had to field. Seems obvious he likes this site loves Karaoke and doesn't attack anyone.  Nobody believes they know-it-all even him (I should be careful what I state though, he might send me a PM explaining to me that he DOES know it all, it's not just a belief)  LOL .. Yes, he *HAS* a SOH. 

Anyway,  I don't wish to feed a cycle here. Just needed to state what I feel is wrong.

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Welcome Melrose!!!  When I am looking for advice or have a question on something there are certain people that I ignore or take with a grain of salt.  There are others that I really respect A LOT.  I have met many of the people on this site in person and everytime I travel I seek them out so I can see their shows.  I have also had many members here come to Texas or DFW to meet me and some others that are in this area too.  A few have actually stayed in my home.  Everyone I have ever met in person on this site has been so very nice and very knowledgeable.   I consider them my lifelong friends.  And there is nothing I wouldn't do for them.

I guess what I am saying is, you will learn who is not nice and who is negative.  It would be up to you to decide who you would like to be friends with and who you don't.

Anyways, like I said, WELCOME!!!  Good to have you here.

Sharon

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Will sing or fish for food!!I'm not quite right!!

Kappy, i personally get the anonymity thing. The attacks on him (SW) probably equal the smirks and condescending attitude/remarks/superiority-thing ONE FOR ONE- maybe less.

He CAN and KNOWS HOW to play "an eye-for-an-eye game" and can take what he dishes without blatantly attacking back, so don't make him a victim here. He knows what he's doing or he'd stopped long ago, right. Or maybe it's medical reasons...?

He obviously has provoked these "attacks" and seems to have enjoyed the attention- until recently. Perhaps we can now learn something from him other than sarcasm....we'll see.

I respect the guys' knowledge but don't like his disposition. Perhaps i'm not even liked here either but i don't provoke everyone by blatantly disrespecting them.

End of Cycle. We now return you to our regularly scheduled thread.

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One comment.

Some people have knowledge to disperse and they don't like wasting time beating around the bush.    I like my medicine straight up and i don't need it candy flavored.

It may sound harsh, but it's real.  Now there may be some of you that like to listen to BS and maybe even taken in by it.    It don't dish BS and i don't take it.     Just real honest facts.    Can't handle the real honest facts, sprinkle them with sugar.   I have nothing to lie about.  I speak from real experiences and happenings to either myself or others that i have seen or heard about.    Nothing is made up.   If you can use the info..GREAT.   If you don't need it, GREAT.     I know what works in my area.    I have seen many things that don't work and i can tell you every reason why.    I see many things that i feel hurt the karaoke format and things that are killing karaoke in general, all across the country.

Nobody took Al Gore serious about global warming.   I use to think it was crap.   But seeing pictures of the ice caps and glaciers melting and other side effects, i may change my mind to be a little more flexable about it.

So call me troll and teenybopper or non existant, while you look in the mirror.

 I have many friends here too,  :O  :shock:   they just won't let me play with the ball.

just cos I havent offered to have your babies dont mean you arent appreciated  :hug:

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"Be who you are and say what you feel... Because those that matter... Don't mind...And those that mind... Don't matter."

Thank you my luv.... Aloha. xoxooxoxoxox

BlueRose @ Tue Apr 08, 2008 2:31 am"]:hi5: [color=cyan][size=12][font=Verdana] I am new here myself, and must say I have been bothered by negative posting, but it seems you find that on any forum.  It's easier to be nasty when people can't see your face. Having read through this thread, all I can say is Negative people can't help thinking and acting in a negative way!.  For 3 years my granddaughter showed equestrian in 4H.  I was at many of her shows and was always impressed by the positive helpful attitude and sportsmanship of these kids.  They never worried about giving each other pointers, lending equipment, etc , though the very same people they were helping were the ones they were competing with.   The reason I keep coming back and participating is the fact that I have learned a lot from the positive, helpful people that are on this forum. As my Mama used to say, "you have to take the good with the bad.
They were not doing it for money.

sw again you shoot yourself in the foot by engaging your fingers when your brain is nowhere near in gear.
Showing horses/ponies is big business indeed. The prize money per class may be pittance but the money a successful mount can bring is phenomenal.
Here in NZ my cousin bought his daughter a "made" pony (a gelding) for $10,000
then of course he had to fork out for saddle, bridle, dress the kid in the very latest as well...not forgetting the horse float and 4 wheel drive to tow it...
you really have no idea do you...tsk tsk tsk

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oh and in case you think I am joking...I watched him write the cheque

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"Be who you are and say what you feel... Because those that matter... Don't mind...And those that mind... Don't matter."

There is a bit of negativaty I will admit on this forum.

Some of it is with good justification.

For example whenever someone attmepts to discuss illegal copying of discs or songs they are going to be flamed.

The main reason being that many on this forum have spent thousands of dollars attempting to be legit. They view unfair competition as a threat (and maybe rightly so).

However with karaoke it is often difficult to be sure you are legit even if you try and therefore there is going to be some debate on various nuances of legality such as can you move your cds to a hard drive, record a singer singing their song etc.

These are unresolved issues and many on this forum have strongly held beliefs about what they think is legal and acceptable on such topics, hence the debate.

Other people have strongly held beliefs on appropriate prices to charge, or other issues. Again because they feel it may be a threat to their own bottom line.


Finally there are many that have strong opinions on equipment that either should or should not be used for karaoke (speakers, mics, song brands etc). This is all good and in most cases that strong opinon is based on either they have a need to justify what they have spent themselves, or that they want to warn someone away from a product that they had bought and were not happy with.

Sure the opinons are often strong and conflicts do appear.

But as a whole this site is an assoication of people who are attempting to become better Karaoke DJs. We are learning from each other.  

Karaoke is basically about people trying to pretend they are rockstars (or other famous singers) and that goes hand in hand with big egos.

Some of it shows though to the forums as strong opinons, but even when a debate turns "hostile" I still feel most of the time on this forum it is still worth participating in. In such "debates" rarely are any minds going to change, and often the disagreements travel from thread to thread. I feel that I have been at times the aggressor and reciever of agression in some of these debates. But I have never gone away angry, even if it may appear so to somone who is only reading the tail end of a long argument.

As a whole, I feel I have learned a lot from this forum, even from opinonated people who I disagree with. On a couple of cases my mind has changed a bit (but I wont let on how).

If you read the forum as a whole, there is a wealth of knowledge here. Some wrong some right, some just differences of opinoion. Sometimes it is necessary to state a view strongly to make an impact, and that is what happens on this forum on occasion.

Despite my many arguments with several on this forum on minor subjects, I would welcome any member of this forum gladly to one of my Karaoke shows, and would also feel welcome at any of their shows. (even if they use the WRONG brand of microphone).

Yes but there could also be clubs that are just doing it for blue ribbons and bragging rights.

A professional horse show would be a different matter and i'm sure at a horse race one jockey isn't going to tell another one how to beat him in the upcoming race.

Is Clinton telling Obama how to beat her?    Both are trying to do the same job.   Both are Senators in the same Congress/country.   Both of them want to work in the same (bar) President of the United States.     Every bar usually only has one KJ.  The best man wins.

you're comparing APPLES and Oranges, dude (if you ARE a guy).

The presidential election is about ONE position... EVER. So back off the comparisons!

There are SEVERAL karaoke venues in most major cities every night! No ONE show could possibly provide the entertainment for everyone. Your show gets too big, and people are going to find a LESSER show, even though it kills 'em, because they want to get their sing on!

It's always a balancing act about the too many singers VS too little... good show VS ok show. That's when I find out if the host is one I like and I approve of how they run their show.

I used to drive Two hours to go see Lonnie's show... Duh!

If the KJs are competing for the same jobs you want it is the same thing.   Only one KJ gets the job.


I have been to bars that had 3-4-5 KJs lined up to apply.

then go to ANOTHER bar and get one THERE.

As I said,... apples and oranges

This isn't  JAPAN were they have karaoke in every building in every block 24/7.    You may not be in a KJ over saturated area, i am.   So that makes the competition fearce and cut throat.

I saw 5 new hard drive KJs pop up in one month.  They were "supplied" by the same KJ.     And i should take them all under my wing and show them how to take all the jobs, like you do to all the new KJs in your area.

OK....maybe I have been gone for too long, but from a quick catch up on topics here, the hissing of a sidewinding snake sound a helluva lot like the yelping of a certain big dog from way back....just one that has been slightly neutered....

In every business there are good and bad apples. There are know it alls and teachers. There are those looking to help, and those looking to screw you.

Our industry is no different. If you read the topis you are interested in, you will quickly learn who you want to listen to. You can gleam advice from everyone, and it will make you better rounded. In addition, hearing from people you DISAGREE with makes you better prepared to deal with the 'enemy' in real life and have a deeper understanding.

This board is as valueable as you make it....

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I have also been backstabbed by people that worked for me.

I say if the competetion sucks, keep it that way or you could be out of a job they took from you.    Not necessarily because they are better than you.  Because they are cheaper.   Had it happen many times.

In my day job, I am in sales. I have been in sales for many years. One of the first things you learn in sales is that by bad mouthing your competition, it only makes you look worse yourself. Call your competition hacks. Call them amateurs. Say their sound or selection sucks. All it does is make you look like an incompetent idiot.

Sell yourself up:

I have 20 years experience VS. He/She's been doing this only 2 months
I have carefully selected 10,000 songs that people enjoy and request VS. Their selection sucks
My sound system is engineered for optimum sound in 5 counties VS. Their system sucks
I have customers that have been with me for years and would love your establishment VS. They have no following
My services are not the cheapest around, but well Tequila doesn't taste the same as Patron VS. They are too cheap to be good

It isn't easy to not badmouth, but if you can keep it positive, maybe you can keep more of the shows you actually want- considering your experience

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Good ideas but not exactly what the conversation was about.

It's about helping your competition to become better than they are.    Do you do that?   Do you want to help them get good enough to try to take your job?