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stogie
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:38 pm |
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Who doesn't know what they are talking about? LOL
Everything I said was right on the money.
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Randy J
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:15 pm |
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yes, Apple charges a LOT for the 17" screen. They make a killing on them. You win !! (they also make a killing on their tower machines.) But I buy a more affordable one about 3-4 years apart... iMac, Mac Mini, and MacBook lines are reasonable. And yes, many Mac owners are fanatical about it.
EBEN, JR, you might check out kJams Pro on the Mac, there's a free demo.
Stogie, look for the feature in your karaoke software... it can probably be set to do the song lyrics IN FULL SCREEN MODE automatically on the built-in screen.
The MacBook I got for $849 is only 13" but the lyrics are GIANT when in full-screen mode, or it does simultaneous external displays too... up to 1920x1200 (about 23") at millions of colors. Or a plain-old TV ($20 for the adapter)
The deal was on a refurbish... factory 1-year warranty. The deals only last a few days and are on CURRENT MODELS. store dot apple dot com and then look for refurbs, special deals, lower left corner
This one only has 80 GB drive, but it's VERY easy to upgrade (from inside the battery bay) but 80 GB is enough for me for now... would hold about 6,000 songs at 192K MP3 if I had that kind of money... prolly be starting with about 3,000 songs
Here's one of those cool gestures I was talking about on the trackpad... hold the control key, use 2 fingers on the trackpad, and you instantly ZOOM IN the entire screen as much or little as you want. Very neat feature
Did I mention some Mac owners are fanatical about it? Sorry for rambling!
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:00 pm |
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stogie @ Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:05 pm wrote: I'm not sure you read my previous posts.
I got a 17" laptop, the screen is fine, it looks great, I don't need anything better, I'm not a power user.
Please go back and read what I said carefully and you will see I explained EVERYTHING very clearly.
This is what I said:
"Ok, this whole thing made me curious so I checked the Apple store website and a Macbook Pro with a 17" screen is $2,800.
It has a faster processor than mine, 2.5 GHz Core 2 Duo, compared to my 1.66mhz Core 2 Duo, the nvidia graphics has 512MB, mine has a 128MB nvidia, it has a 200 MB HD, mine has a 160MB SATA drive, it has a DVD burner, mine has a DVD burner. I imagine the screen is first rate and very high quality. This laptop would probably last 5 years, maybe 6. No doubt this is a very fine machine.
For what I am going to use my laptop for it's overkill. It's also $2,100 more than what I paid and right now I don't have an extra $2,100 laying around. The $684 was painful enough after all the money I've already spent on equipment and music.
The truth is, I could have probably gotten a $500 entry level laptop with a 15" screen and it would have been fine. There is a Macbook Pro with 15" screen for $2,000. So I guess I did know what I was talking about and I was guessing at the time."
Calm down dude. I wasn't trying to convert you over. I was merely stating some facts to other so if they are reading this forum and trying to learn something, I can offer some opinions about laptops. Just because you started the thread doesn't mean this thread is all about you. This is a place where intelligent people discuss fine points of differing opinions. There is not need to use a large yellow fonts to get your point across. It makes you look like you have done something wrong and trying to prove your innocence. Just chill out and say what you have to say for the benefit of all of us.
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:33 am |
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Not sure how CDG karaoke work but for DVD Karaoke, there is a free software at http://www.tkaraoke.com . It looks like it has a special feature to translate and lookup lyric info automatically for Vietnamese songs but English songs should work. English characters don't need translation so that special feature would just be OBE.
Are there lot of English Karaoke DVDs out there? I would imagine that the above software should play CDGs also but not sure.
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:33 am |
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A few things here.
I believe the original post by Randy was really saying more about the Karaoke software available for Apple computers than the computers themselves(which you would need to buy if you wanted the software, very crafty eh?). I think his major point was that Apple computers have a better operating system and that the Karaoke software is better than what is available for Windoze computers. Please correct me if I'm wrong Randy.
eben wasn't reading what I said or he didn't understand or he wasn't paying attention. I try to read what someone says and then respond with appropriate information. I make mistakes just like anyone else and I admit them. I'm not holier than thou, but go back to my original posts and read down from there. I wanted him to see the information that he missed or didn't understand because I thought I was very clear.
I'm looking at this on a 22" LCD screen and the text is still very small. I thought maybe eben or some others might have been having trouble seeing the text. It came off like I was screaming. I'm sorry. I felt that if I put what I said in small text that it would be glossed over and I would have to repeat myself AGAIN.
I didn't choose a 17" laptop so I could WIN in this discussion. I fairly compared what I just bought with what Apple is offering and the difference in price was exactly what I had originally said it was. The fact is, the Macbook Pro with the 17" screen is 4 times what I paid for my laptop.
I appreciate well thought out arguments that can refute what I say(like Randy's) that use good information and facts that are well presented. I am more than willing to change my mind to your point of view if you present me with good reasons to do so-more than anyone I have ever met or know. I'm willing to do this because I'm always looking for better ways to do things. Down the road when I'm more established and making a lot more money, I may consider a Macbook, I'll at least take a look at one and look at the software. It's because of this discussion. Otherwise I would have never given an Apple computer a single thought.
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Randy J
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:44 am |
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I was just stating what features are in the karaoke software that I use. This is to put the information out there, just as we have heard about the various karaoke programs for Windows.
As for how stable and secure Windows is vs. Mac OS / Unix / Linux ?? Umm... no comment.
On a positive note, I've heard about a great product from Microsoft called Windows Live OneCare that is supposed to be EXCELLENT in making Windows more stable and secure. Much better than Norton and the others. $100 per year. I hope they decide to keep supporting XP for another year or two while they work out the issues in Vista.
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:01 pm |
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Randy J @ Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:44 am wrote: I was just stating what features are in the karaoke software that I use. This is to put the information out there, just as we have heard about the various karaoke programs for Windows.
As for how stable and secure Windows is vs. Mac OS / Unix / Linux ?? Umm... no comment.
On a positive note, I've heard about a great product from Microsoft called Windows Live OneCare that is supposed to be EXCELLENT in making Windows more stable and secure. Much better than Norton and the others. $100 per year. I hope they decide to keep supporting XP for another year or two while they work out the issues in Vista.
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:18 pm |
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diamondd @ Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:24 pm wrote: mckyj57 @ Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:17 am wrote: Another day, another Winamp karaoke application which cannot seem to get a key change done. Yet another host who said "I put it in" and yet another time where the word didn t get to Pacemaker.
I hate seeing a Winamp-based karaoke application, especially the ever-lousy Sax and Dottys.... You're a little off-topic, but I use Sax N Dotty's and have never had a keychange problem with version 2.2, and that's been out for over two years now. I have KJs using this software 5 nights a week without any keychange problems. I don't think I am off topic. If you are contemplating using a Winamp controller application, you have to be aware of the problems with such a setup. It is fragile because of the "action at a distance" caused by Winamp. All you have to do is use Winamp with something else, and you risk losing your setup by disabling Pacemaker in any of several ways (Preferences, "Disable tweaking", upgrade). Quote: I believe there might have been a keychange issue with the versions prior to verison 2.1.42 (or more than 3 years ago) although I've seen KJ's that use older versions without keychange problems.
There is a keychange issue with anything that reports that it has set it down 2 when in fact no change has been made. Are you saying the new version won't show the key as being changed if Pacemaker is not working? I don't know any way to remotely read Pacemaker -- all you can do is make changes and hope they take. Quote: Those "hosts" of yours might be running a older version that they "found" on the internet or don't know how to properly configure their software.
I've beta-tested for Sax N Dotty's and I always stress test the keychange function.
DD
The point is, it is fragile and prone to error. This is shown not only by the design, which is bad, but by the actual performance of the application which I have rarely seen set up properly.
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:28 pm |
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I'd have to agree with Mickey Mouse. Try Karafun. It seems more stable than autokdj/winamp/pacemaker and the Key change works EVERY TIME. So does the tempo adjustment. I had it on my XP desktop and something must have been corrupted in the operating system prior to it being installed because the computer was shutting down regularly when I used Karafun. I had tried at least a dozen different KJ and DJ programs before I started having problems.
On my clean, new VISTA laptop it runs fine. I limited what programs went on there to prevent the operating system from getting damaged or clogged up. So far it seems to have worked and everything runs fine.
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 3:40 pm |
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I am running Compuhost with no crashes on an acer laptop running vista.
Karafun is a good player but for hosting shows I wouldn't dream of doing that.
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:00 pm |
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For professional use I agree completely Danny.
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 6:47 pm |
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diamondd @ Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:24 am wrote: mckyj57 @ Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:17 am wrote: Another day, another Winamp karaoke application which cannot seem to get a key change done. Yet another host who said "I put it in" and yet another time where the word didn t get to Pacemaker.
I hate seeing a Winamp-based karaoke application, especially the ever-lousy Sax and Dottys.... You're a little off-topic, but I use Sax N Dotty's and have never had a keychange problem with version 2.2, and that's been out for over two years now. I have KJs using this software 5 nights a week without any keychange problems. I believe there might have been a keychange issue with the versions prior to version 2.1.42 (or more than 3 years ago) although I've seen KJ's that use older versions without keychange problems. Those "hosts" of yours might be running a older version that they "found" on the internet or don't know how to properly configure their software. I've beta-tested for Sax N Dotty's and I always stress test the keychange function. DD
Mckyj57, although I enjoy all of your posts and knowledge on a lot of things, I have to agree with DD on Sax N dotty v. 2.2 and Pacemaker v. 2.1
We run it 4 nights a week and do not have keychange issues at all. Admittedly we do not get a lot of keychange requests but we do get several every week.
However I do know that if you are using a certain DSP stacker (the most popular one) with Winamp along with 1 or 2 more DSP plugins you can have issues with Pacemaker (the possibility does exist and yes I did experience it). Perhaps this is what you have been experiencing. I tested all of the DSP stackers out there (because I do run DFX 7.0 also) and finally found one that works without issue along with Pacemaker. As far as running Pacemaker as your only DSP plugin I have not heard of any problems with S-N-D v. 2.2 & Pacemaker v. 2.1 And I also had done some beta testing for S-N-D in the past. I only mention that because as Beta testers we were privy to any and all issues that might have been experienced or reported.
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:08 pm |
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RLC @ Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:47 pm wrote: Mckyj57, although I enjoy all of your posts and knowledge on a lot of things, I have to agree with DD on Sax N dotty v. 2.2 and Pacemaker v. 2.1 We run it 4 nights a week and do not have keychange issues at all. Admittedly we do not get a lot of keychange requests but we do get several every week. However I do know that if you are using a certain DSP stacker (the most popular one) with Winamp along with 1 or 2 more DSP plugins you can have issues with Pacemaker (the possibility does exist and yes I did experience it). Perhaps this is what you have been experiencing. I tested all of the DSP stackers out there (because I do run DFX 7.0 also) and finally found one that works without issue along with Pacemaker. As far as running Pacemaker as your only DSP plugin I have not heard of any problems with S-N-D v. 2.2 & Pacemaker v. 2.1 And I also had done some beta testing for S-N-D in the past. I only mention that because as Beta testers we were privy to any and all issues that might have been experienced or reported.
I am not personally experiencing anything as a host -- I use CompuHost. With it's all-in-one integrated key changer I never have a problem.
I am experiencing this constantly as a singer though -- 4 different Winamp-based (3 Sax/Dotty's, one AutoKDJ) shows in the past 3 weeks, 4 cases of key changer not working. Two of them I fixed it by talking to the host and fixing the problem (one not enabled, one not "in").
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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 6:20 am |
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mckyj57 @ Wed Apr 16, 2008 5:18 pm wrote: The point is, it is fragile and prone to error. This is shown not only by the design, which is bad, but by the actual performance of the application which I have rarely seen set up properly.
So you're blaming SnD because the KJ doesn't have Pacemaker set up properly?!
That's as silly as blaming a manufacter of a CDG player of having a "poor design" if the KJ puts the disc in upside down and it doesn't play properly :shock:
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mckyj57 @ Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:18 pm wrote: diamondd @ Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:24 pm wrote: mckyj57 @ Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:17 am wrote: Another day, another Winamp karaoke application which cannot seem to get a key change done. Yet another host who said "I put it in" and yet another time where the word didn t get to Pacemaker.
I hate seeing a Winamp-based karaoke application, especially the ever-lousy Sax and Dottys.... You're a little off-topic, but I use Sax N Dotty's and have never had a keychange problem with version 2.2, and that's been out for over two years now. I have KJs using this software 5 nights a week without any keychange problems. I don't think I am off topic. If you are contemplating using a Winamp controller application, you have to be aware of the problems with such a setup. It is fragile because of the "action at a distance" caused by Winamp. All you have to do is use Winamp with something else, and you risk losing your setup by disabling Pacemaker in any of several ways (Preferences, "Disable tweaking", upgrade). Quote: I believe there might have been a keychange issue with the versions prior to verison 2.1.42 (or more than 3 years ago) although I've seen KJ's that use older versions without keychange problems.
There is a keychange issue with anything that reports that it has set it down 2 when in fact no change has been made. Are you saying the new version won't show the key as being changed if Pacemaker is not working? I don't know any way to remotely read Pacemaker -- all you can do is make changes and hope they take. Quote: Those "hosts" of yours might be running a older version that they "found" on the internet or don't know how to properly configure their software.
I've beta-tested for Sax N Dotty's and I always stress test the keychange function.
DD The point is, it is fragile and prone to error. This is shown not only by the design, which is bad, but by the actual performance of the application which I have rarely seen set up properly. The errors you're talking about??? I haven't seen 'em!
As for Karafun, I found MORE than enough bugs to make me distance myself from it. OVERALL it works fine, but I need something that will play my stuff ALL the time, not just he ones you have to format or make a certain way.
For my usage, Winamp has worked FLAWLESSLY for many, MANY years.
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compuhost is the best program and all you need you have all your backing music karaoke songs and much more to make your show unique
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There are NO best prgrams out there..................
Download trials of all suggestions and you have to SEE FOR YOURSELF
Singers, Hosts, DJ/KJ's all have different issues, needs and wants --find out for yourself WHICH IS BEST :oh yeah: :oh yeah:
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