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Can someone explain to me why a Behringer PMH5000 which according to a web site delivers 2 x 400 watts, is much more expensive than a PMP3000 which a web site says delivers 1,200 watts of power.
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PMP3000 have an output of only 215W at 8ohm per channel. The 1500W is peak power bridged mode.


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smiler01 @ Sun Jun 08, 2008 7:17 am wrote:
Can someone explain to me why a Behringer PMH5000 which according to a web site delivers 2 x 400 watts, is much more expensive than a PMP3000 which a web site says delivers 1,200 watts of power.
Am i missing something blindingly obvious here.

The difference is the number of channels, number of buses, and the extra effects engine. The amp sections are the same.

I own a PMH3000, which is the same as the 5000 except only one effect engine, 4 fewer mono channels, and some other minor missing things. I can't imagine needing the 5000 for karaoke, though. I run 5 mics, two music inputs, an external effects box, and still have leftover channels.


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smiler01 @ Sun Jun 08, 2008 3:17 am wrote:
Can someone explain to me why a Behringer PMH5000 which according to a web site delivers 2 x 400 watts, is much more expensive than a PMP3000 which a web site says delivers 1,200 watts of power.
Am i missing something blindingly obvious here.

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They both actually put out approx. the same power, like Jian said, about 215 per channel into 8 ohms, 400 watts per channel into 4 ohms - MOST speakers are rated at 8 ohms, so these aren't really powerful amps as they'd like you to believe.
Alot of companies will give a PEAK rating to make you think you are getting more or they will give the lowest ohm rating which is where the 400 watts per channel comes into play. Again most speakers are not typically 4 ohm speakers, most are 8 ohm rated.

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can someone give there opinion as to this mixer amp PMP3000 spec below


Ultra-compact 2 x 600-Watt stereo powered mixer (1,200 Watt bridged mode)
Revolutionary amplifier technology: enormous power, incredible sonic performance and super-light weight
Ultra-compact design at nearly half the weight of conventional powered mixers means no more lugging around dead weight
16-channel mixer section features 8 mono and 4 stereo channels plus separate tape returns
Studio-grade 24-bit stereo FX processor with 100 awesome presets including reverb, chorus, flanger, delay, pitch shifter and various multi-effects
Revolutionary FBQ Feedback Detection system instantly reveals critical frequencies for easy feedback removal
8 high-quality IMP “Invisible” Mic Preamps with switchable +48 V phantom power for condenser microphones
Effective, extremely musical 3-band EQ, switchable Low cut filter and Clip LEDs on all mono channels
Stereo 7-band graphic EQ allows precise frequency correction of monitor or main outputs
Voice Canceller function removes singer’s voice from recordings for Karaoke applications
Selectable stereo (main L/R), double mono (main/monitor) or bridged mono amplifier operation mode
Breathtaking XPQ 3D stereo surround effect for more vitality and enhanced stereo image
Adjustable stereo CD/Tape input for connecting external signal sources
Multi-functional stereo Preamp outputs for added flexibility
Internal switch-mode power supply, noise-free audio, superior transient response and very low power consumption
High-quality components and exceptionally rugged construction ensure long life
Conceived and designed by BEHRINGER Germany

and a pair of peavey pro15 speakers are they good enough for a small top medium sized venues

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smiler01 @ Mon Jun 09, 2008 8:39 am wrote:
can someone give there opinion as to this mixer amp PMP3000 spec below


Ultra-compact 2 x 600-Watt stereo powered mixer (1,200 Watt bridged mode)
Revolutionary amplifier technology: enormous power, incredible sonic performance and

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and a pair of peavey pro15 speakers are they good enough for a small top medium sized venues

thanks in advance

The amp is not really big enough to match the speakers. It would work, but you would have to be careful about overdriving and damaging the speakers. I use a similar setup for my portable karaoke setup (takes up only part of my trunk). I run a pair of PR-10 speakers on a PMH3000. The PR-10 has a similar program rating.

In general, I think it is a bit underpowered for a medium-sized venue. It would work OK for a smaller venue (less than 2000 sq. feet). All in my opinion, of course.


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