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It is what it is.You visit them and they will come.Don't feel bad by the ones that seem to forget,welcome the ones that actually like your songs,like the 3 to 4 people that are hardly here.I sing a lot of R&B and I sing it very well.On a given day when I don't go by and listen to people or not available for listens I get less people at my songs.Can you imagine you put up a song that you do all the vocals and work hard on......put it up as R&B and get a few listens while the guy who normally sings CW decide to sing a r&b song that sound like music set to a nightmare got 22 comments to your 10 or less.Thats the way it is here man,live with it.I know who I am....know who you are and stop feeling sorry for yourself.You know if you're good or if you are bad and if that person with the most comments are good or just getting strokes.O yeah,if you put it in listen......expect to be heard only.Just that simple.

Morgan you are a breath of fresh air

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"Be who you are and say what you feel... Because those that matter... Don't mind...And those that mind... Don't matter."

I LOVE 70's R&B, Stylistics, Delphonics (much of the philadelphia R&B) did some bass work with MFSB, I love the Spinners, Commodores, can't sing ANY of this stuff to save my life, but this doesn;t stop me Friends tell me it doesn't work (which is what I demand to hear- THE TRUTH), because I'm trying to learn and this stuff is plain out've my register, BUT... I love singing it, and even singing it not well... We can love doing something we aren't that good at... That's not illegal !! I've even sub'd Aretha Franklin in the Critique thread

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Northeast United States runner up for the "Singing Hall of Shame".

Hi Morgan. Man, must I say this again? I WAS NOT FEELING SORRY FOR MYSELF! Why do you and Vicki continue to press the issue?
I was just trying to reinforce a point made by someone else a while back!
Do I have to cancel my membership here to prove that I don't need the recognition?

The only reason I leave my songs up as a paid member is to contribute to the upkeep here, and to have larger file sizes when I submit. I don't have any regrets about ever being involved here. I've met some really nice people that I believe most are genuine. I'm sorry that I might've hurt anyone's feelings with this. Right now, I don't have time to sing or listen. I've been working 70 hours per week! I'm off today and tomorrow though, so maybe I can try to participate a bit here.

Problem is, after my sarcastic post about this issue, many of the friendly people who I've socialized with before, probably don't give a rat's a$$ what I have to say from now on. So exactly what is your mission here? The damage is done. I stopped being nice for once and confronted an issue that was obviously better left alone. What else is there to prove?
Don't do the same to yourself by trying to judge me! We don't need another hero!

BTW, I like alot of '70s & '80s R&B, so your song selections have nothing to do with why I might not have listened to you before. Or maybe I have and just don't remember? There're too many people here and not enough hours in the day. I'm sure you're an excellent performer!

Let's just try to let this die peacefully......RIP.

People are here to sing and make friends I'm sure. But some of us just can't commit to the long hours of it all. The comments thing is socialization mostly.....not a testament to singing talent! I just thought people should realize this if they haven't before. I realize it.

I think the forums are trouble really. People get in here and say what they really think and ruin the joy of singing. I'm guilty now. What should my sentence be?

the floor must be littered with toys that were thrown from the cot

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"Be who you are and say what you feel... Because those that matter... Don't mind...And those that mind... Don't matter."

You two need a spanking....

Perry, c'mere. It just so happens that I've been wanting to give ya one, and this is as good of an excuse as I'm gonna get....

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On a more serious note... (before we get down to the business of *spankings*)

Perry, everyone knows how it is in SS.... I know you, and I know numbers and fluff are not what's important to you.

It seems shady, but SS is what it is, and it will forever be that way. Would you rather get tons of fluffy, meaningless comments on all your songs yet know that people looking on were laughing on the inside cause you don't deserve the
numbers and the praise you get? Nah, I thought not. Me? I'd rather get 10 negatives telling me I need to change a bunch of things on a sub than 50 fluffies. I do miss the days when I would have atleast 4 or 5 comments telling me I needed to do a song over, Lmao.

But, that being said, I have learned not to "expect" anything at all of SS.... just the comraderie I've found there over the last few years.

And anyways, by the time your *spanking* is over, you'll be saying "singers showcase who?"

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Hi Charming. Are you psychic? You are so right about the unimportance of the numbers thing. I was more concerned about where my friends went than how much fluff I was getting on my singing. But it wasn't fair....I tricked them all. I subbed under L.
I may have been a bit emotional in my ramblings because, at the same time, I lost alot of friends abroad when I lost my job. Certainly easy for others to interpret that I was feeling sorry for myself? I'll accept the interpretation by others I guess....but I still deny that alot of comments makes me believe that I can sing. Hell, I've always been embarrassed singing live in the bars cause God forbid I should happen to gather any applause.....it was weird there too. The locals were a strange bunch, but some who weren't regular singers were pretty friendly. It was just the singers who weren't very friendly?
As long as I've been at SS, I've only had a few negative comments. Why? And it was usually from someone who was just passing through and never sang. Those were always indications to me that I didn't deserve recogniton on a higher level. I was just trying to make friends here really. I know where I stand on the singing thing......according to me, my song could always be done better.....by someone else.
So what some might view as self-pity from this, they couldn't be more wrong. To be a primadona, you have to act the part in real life.......is that a fair assumption?
I treat others with respect as people, then figure out from there if they really deserve it, and usually I end up disappointed more often than not.

Enough of this emo stuff. People can think what they want. I'm tired of defending my point of this whole thing. I'm still a nice guy.....according to me. But I am somewhat of a sick bastard also.......were you talkin' 'bout a spankin'?
You'll have to give it to me real hard now, 'cause my a$$ is kinda numb already....(truck driver) I gotta feel it baby!!

Perry, you need to get one thing straight.

(gosh, my husband HATES when I use that line on him, Lol)

You seem to be under the assumption you're not a good singer, when in all honesty you have one of the better male voices I've heard in the showcase. (no, that's not fluffy, it's true)

I told ya, my "listen only" subs don't have near the "listens" my other songs do either, maybe about 1/3 as many. Most people wont even bother to listen if they know they wont gain a comment from you. (not all, but alot of people, are that way) I think anyone doing L only would find that to be true.

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Hey Perry... I just want to let you know that I am one of the people that has listened to both of your listen only posts and my reasons are, I like to hear you sing, I think you are very good.... AND I miss YOU being around, because you know I tjhink you are a great guy and I like you... there's my Don't be embarrassed, just come back and play when you can, after all, this place is really just for fun.... See you around... I HOPE... ~~~ Ellan

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Hey Perry. Very nice job on How Long! Great Don Henley voice!

Hi Ellan. Thanks! I like you too! With all the talk of SS being "cliquish", maybe that's what caused me to have this "outburst"?
I've enjoyed the comraderie in SS when I was more active, but all along realizing that it's all fun and games. I don't know why I had to ruin it by trying to be honest?
I'm not getting in much sing time at all now....work too many hours and barely have time to sleep in a 5 day stretch. Then, on my 2 days off, I have too much to do at home.
I hope everything is good with you! Thanks for stopping by!

Thanks Odie! Usually, I annoy the cats & dog here when I'm trying to sing!

Henley uses some falsetto though that I don't seem to have, so the sound just comes outta me however way I can make it work.

I won't sing anyplace where at least a few aren't willing to say to me, "I didn't really like that", or offer some constructive comment. Once in awhile a song "Works and has potential", anything beyond that people offer me in the way of praise just isn't in my best interest at this point (to take to heart), this is HARD work, won't come easy, and without critical listeners, quite honestly, I'm screwed ! No singer got good because all they received was copious "praise" without constructive feedback (that might sting) when necessary. There's A LOT more comfort in an environment where people tell it like it is IMHO, for those that take singing very seriously, after leaving the showcase entering the realm of a "real audience" they are going to get their feelings hurt assuming they believe showcase is indicative of their skill level (in almost all cases).. Not everything works for EVERYONE (except in the showcase). It can't ! Of course I don't sing "for fun", I'm trying to LEARN to sing, I don't wish to perform assuming it doesn't sound good, but I woke up awhile back realizing I HAVE to. At this point in my lack of experience I must because I NEED others ears, there needs to be some foundation to build on too, and fresh beginner is a good starting point..Yet the nicest part is I don't feel I have to be good to do this in public today as long as I let folks know "I am aware I am not yet a singer", one year ago I would NEVER be willing to make this type of @SS out've myself given my feelings on performance, but I started to realize.. Who am I hurting if I never sing for those that KNOW how to sing assuming I really wish to learn how and can't do this on my own ? The past 6-7 months are a very different mindset for me.. So even when old, and rigid, we CAN make changes. I have nothing to "Showcase" for the world to hear, but I do consider those that listen to me listening in more of a "recital" type atmosphere, meaning I'm not yet ready to perform, but I'm instead wishing for scrutiny.. Wouldn't want it any other way, and quite honestly... While I do slack and sing stuff at times (because I wish I could) that I've been told to lay off of, I acknowledge (I know this is a no no for me, but I need to take a break and try something I like despite the fact it's not for me), also, NOBODY that has been honest with me has every not received a "Thank you very much", and that's it, I acknowledge them, don't try to fault find their critique and I accept it as their truth and honesty which is what I want, what I do not want is to alienate anyone being honest because honesty despite how much it stings, IS a gift !... I don't get defensive, I have no right to; In real audiences are brutal, difference is they smile at you while stating you suck out've the side of their mouth... I wish to be told I suck ! Because if I suck, I suck.... Improvement is the goal.. sucking is the foundation. ... but anyway...

Sad thing is, the showcase ran into trouble long ago.. Not because folks couldn't critique, but because more than not, folks asking for honesty expected it to be delivered with heavy layers of sugar and padded to the point it'd be a rigorous composition to type out in order to cater to their need for soft delivery. In fact tuesday night ____ might ask for critique, but come wednesday morning if ____ wasn't feeling up to being critiqued, the well meaning critiquer got punished.. So there was no consistency, and that's part of maturity ! Critique isn't JFF, it's for the serious singer, or singer that loves singing beyond a just karaoke setting for fun ..

Honesty means you take it HOWEVER it's delivered tho, and I know in my case (No I'm not a masochist, but people must be trained to KNOW you are safe to be honest to) I've promised myself, and all I CAN'T be offended by negative criticism assuming it's directed towards my attempt to do a song cause it's for MY OWN GOOD, and is likely fact.. There's no room for hurt feelings and ego in an environment where a person states "I want honesty" assuming they are training to improve in a performing area of something, you've GOT to take it bending over, standing up, laying flat on your back or however you are positioned when it comes...It's not designed to make you feel great, it's designed to IMPROVE your singing !... Consequently, the showcase never had enough that could handle actual candor delivered without molassis coating to handle honesty.. If a person wishes to think they are 8's 9's and 10's... They don't want critique or honesty. Truth is, even the best singers here, botch up at times ! Yet noone would dare tell them It takes maturity, humility, wanting to improve as a singer (and not just singing for fun). Critique in a "It's just Karaoke" setting ? How can it work ? if JFF is the norm ?

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There really isn't an instrument I play where I haven't had my ego bruised, stripped down, gotten knocked flat on my a$$, and finally learned that if I respect music, I should expect folks to say something when I don't deliver it to their satisfaction...

It A LOT more fun doing something when you are OK with being below average at times. To set standards at an "8" rank makes it quite stressful. That's the best score anyone can realistically get after subbing 50-100 songs is it not ? I mean "in the real world" ?

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Northeast United States runner up for the "Singing Hall of Shame".