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This is an excellent mixer for small to medium sized venues and has plenty of power.
I have it's predecessor the EMX5000 for my second system and I love it. It's a great mixer!

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I was watching the video on the new Mackie board. The board looks huge! The product manager looks small in comparison .

The Yamaha is a great board but at present time it costing $1000 and is 500w per channel at 4 ohms --Mackie is currently listed at $900 and is 800watts per channel at 4 ohms

Based upon the specs I would probably take the Mackie for $100 less.

More power and same basic features. You give up some extra channels but the Mackie has plenty.

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I have found nothing indicating that the Mackie is 800 watts @ 4 ohms, I have combed their site and all it states is 800 watts peak and if Mackie is true to form that will be a peak rating @ 2 ohms. If you have found a link where it states 800 watts @ 4 ohms please post it. Yamaha plainly states their 500 watts @ 4 ohms. As far as features go perhaps a second look would be in order. Last but not least, before you assume it will cost 1000.00 you might want to get a quote from RMC Audio. As always, reading is free, mistakes are usually expensive.

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The 2 new mixers 1 box 1 table top state rated at 800 x 2 - if you look at the spec for the BOX mixer it clearly states at 4ohms. - assuming the table top would be the same.????

Actually if you look at the specs in the manual for the Mackie, it's normal (not peak) 4 ohm load is 400 watts. 250 watts into 8 ohms.
The Yamaha is 500 into 4 ohms & 350 into 8 ohms.

I would still opt for the Mackie personally but that's just me. Both units are very similar & would be nice to have.

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The Yamaha EMX512 is hard to beat. For $569 retail you get lots of inputs, stereo and mono, 500w per channel at 4ohms, 350w per channel at 8ohms. Separate EQ and master volume for mains and monitors. Compression on the first four input channels. Three band EQ per channel. Phantom power for condenser mics. Several built in effects like reverb, flanger, echo etc. I was lucky and found one in near new condition on ebay for $350.

One of the best features is that despite it's powerful amp output you can literally pick it up with two fingers by the built in handle, it's really light. The case is made of Lexan and is very tough and durable. I have run (4) 8ohm speakers-two per side-with no problems at all. I can run two EV SX100 mains (12" LF drivers) and (2) EV SB122 subs off this mixer. This will make plenty of sound for at least 200 people. You could run two or four Yamaha S115V speakers. A pair of S115Vs will put out a nice sound at good volume levels for most bars and you could get away without a sub if you EQ it right.

In it's price point I haven't seen a better product out there. The Behringer PMP3000 is a decent and worthy product, but doesn't have as much power as the EXM512.

A powered mixer can simplify things and is certainly easy to carry, but down the road I'd like to get a more powerful amp, a separate mixer and an EQ/crossover setup. I will be able to tweak the sound better and I want to be able to feed some serious amp power to my speakers. Theoretically I can just add a Behringer EP2500 and an EQ/crossover in a small rack to what I have and really make the subs thump.

The PMP3000 is 450 @ 4 ohms. It's a tad less. But is the yamaha worth $170 more in features? Also, one is a box mixer/amp and the other is a board. I guess the board is good if you want to rack your system. The yamaha does include compressor in 4 of its channels.

For $170 more, the Yamaha is worth much more in quality & reliability aolne!

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To be sure, I would have to think twice about paying $569 for a brand new EMX512, it's a lot of dough, but to put things in perspective, price out a good quality 10-12 channel Yamaha, Mackie or Peavey mixer-about $300, maybe more, then a decent amp that puts out about 500w per channel at 4ohms, around $300-$500 depending on the brand. So, the EMX512 is priced right and oh so convenient and rugged.

Based on my experience with Yamaha speakers and my powered mixer, I wouldn't hesitate to buy or recommend Yamaha gear. I've DJed at my health club a few times and it's a huge room, at least 3000-4000 square feet, could be a bit more. My system can blast that place and I have been asked to turn it down when I let the volume creep up because I was really enjoying the music.

I'm surprised that you don't see powered mixers with 1000w per channel at 4ohms, I'm sure they would sell well even at $1,000, $1,200 or even $1,500. Imagine what you could do with something like that. Add in a built in crossover for the subs and it would be the ideal powered mixer.

One more thing. I found out the hard way that spending less isn't a good strategy and that if a product from a reputable company like Yamaha or EV or Peavey or a variety of other well known companies costs more it's usually a much better product. Not always, but often this is the case.

I also found out that some companies with good reputations for high quality products and a strong following aren't always my choice. I wouldn't buy a JBL speaker or a Mackie either. I would buy a Mackie mixer. JBL and Mackie speakers are over priced and over hyped IMO. I've read a lot of bad things lately about Mackie speakers as far as quality and reliability- I have enough problems in my life without having to deal with speaker problems too.

Yeah $569 is much to dish out. For me, it will be a great system if I actually do KJ. For home use I'm still looking for something portable and won't break the bank but sound half- way decent. The EMX512SC, Peavey PR12, mics, and cables would take me well >$1000.

There are amps that go 1000 watts @ 4 ohms. I guess concert halls use much of those. Powered mixers - I don't know if they can house an amp that big.

Concert halls use several amps. I ran live sound in a medium sized club that used a little over 20,000 watts.
Big concert events can get upwards to 100K watts (sometimes more depending on the band).

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Last night I decided to go with my POWERED MIXER instead of my amp/mixer rack.
Since I now was running in mono I also stacked the speakers off to the side and slightly behind the singers angled to the FAT part of the bar so to speak.

I was surprised on the comments regarding sound that I received both from singers saying they can hear themselves better and the overall sound ANYWHERE in the bar was GOOD. I also use this set up at my smaller gigs but never at this Thursday show.

Aside from the pain of NO sliders the system was
LIGHTER TO CARRY
EASIER TO SET UP AND TEAR DOWN
PLENTY POWERFUL ENOUGH ( EVEN THOUGH SPEC WISE YOU MIGHT NOT THINK SO)

Since I set up in a DARK corner against a wall all power cords were drapped off the back of the table into a surge protector box - Wouldn't work in a formal atmosphere as the cords on the floor I'm sure did not look attractive.

I think I might be selling my mixer/amp now and ordereding one of those Mackies - preferably the table top model ...JUST WANTED TO SHARE and thanks for everyones input.

This weekend I will be selling the following on ebay / craigslist
If interested let me know.

In a SKB DJ 6 space Rack http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ ... sku=544726

Mixer- Behringer UB1222Fx: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ ... sku=631229

Power Amp: Crown xls602d : http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ ... sku=481586

Dbx compressor: **NEVER USED *** http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ ... sku=183515

Power Conditioner: Furman - http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ ... sku=181046

Going completely to using Powered Mixers .

All equipment is in good shape and working --make an offer
I'm not here to rip anyone off !!!

I'll sell components seperately also !!!

If you know some one with a sound enhancer ( sonic maxxummizer or ultrafex pro by behringer that i use ) try it from mixxer out to powered speakers and follow the set up guide and tweek it like you want it and you mite be surprized at what you hear!!! we use this to enhance our over all sound for live preformance's it can blow you away in a large room, and no distrotion !!!! makes the whole thing clear and fat, less eq problems and it give's the human ear what it can hear, not a lot of bad vibes, and it cost less than a 100.00 dollars !!! been useing one of these for 16 years, just up grade to a new one every two years, some people have never heard of them, so find one and try it ??? and as for monitors, use in- the- ear wireless!!1
save's a lot of mixx, and feed- back problems and yes the cheap ones do just fine,
after all there just for makeinf shure your where you want to be in the out put mixx
hope this helps, ranger P.S. if you try one dont forget to turn yourmain to speakers down, it increase's the vol. about 75% !!!!!!

Why? Unless the new model is significantly greater sounding or the old one just flat out dying, there is no reason upgrade these pieces every couple years. The BBE units have not changed much in the line of internal circuitry, most of their upgrades are more cosmetic than anything. I have an older 422A, a 462 & a newer 482 & there is little to no difference in sound quality between the 3.

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Hi,

I'm new here. Saw this thread mentioned EMX5014C. It's available here in Singapore for about $630. I'm keen to buy it for some Karaoke gigs for small to medium sized halls (function rooms for about 150-200 people). Any recommendations for speakers? A local shop recommended a Yamaha A12, cheapest Yamaha speaker they have and said I could buy a Sub woofer later to add on. Any comments?

Thanks

If I were going to buy another powered mixer, that would be the one. It should be barely enough for karaoke for 150-200. I would probably like a bit more power, perhaps later powered subwoofers.

I would go for better speakers, myself. A pair of Yorkville TL315C or the Yamaha S115V might be decent choices.

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Alas for those who never sing, but die with all their music in them.
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Yes of course you can. I'd stay away from the low end berringer stuff but you can run a great karaoke show with a good pair of 15 inch speakers and a powered mixer. I've run this setup for years. I prefer peavy equipment but any of the good brands will do.

If you can't afford a monitor setup when you startup simply put you main speakers slightly behind and toward your singers. This will help them hear the music. You will have to experiment a little as the downside to this is feed back from your mics. This is a big no no. As soon as I could i'd next invest in a small powered amp (I use a peavey monitor amp) and a small 12 speaker or set of speakers. You might even drop down to a 10" speaker for your monitor.

If your young and strong consider some older used equipment. They will weigh more than the modern stuff but were built with quality components and will sound great.

Rick