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It reasonable that people unknowingly assume that type damage is the end of an instruments lifespan but below is an example as to why it's not. Keep in mind these breaks are exceptionally common, meaning there's not a luthier that doesn't know how to repair it. It's not rare.. Depends on how much the guitar is worth to you as to whether you want it repaired in a way that it won't be noticeable, or whether you wish to risk finishing the break yourself, and gluing as well as clamping a break like that. Call a luthier first, just send him the photos of the crack for a rough idea.. You can ship the guitar *assuming there's nobody near you* and it's worth spending some money to restore it back to a condition prior to the headstock/neck crack. I'd always consult with somebody first and get a price on a repair so it's done professionally.. Certain types of glue allow for resonation to transmit between sections of the instrument woods better than others.. Hide glue is good for this reason. What might not be easy is finishing the break, you can't (as I stated) just fill it with some glue.. the break needs to be finished, and glued and clamped properly.


http://www.odonnellguitars.com/repairs/ ... index.html

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My thoughts are given your location you might not need a luthier.. Speak to some of your friends in the bluegrass genre and find out who fixes their wooden instruments ? A local school violin (wooden instrument) repairman who doesn't work on high end Strads perhaps ? or school musical instrument repairman might be another option... Violas, cello's, and classical instruments for instance suffer tougher cracks to fix where the actually face or surface must be detached at a seem and a crack going thru the wood completely at the grain must be shimmed from the underside and filled and reassembled... A violin repair person for a local school might be doable and less costly than a luthier... Unless of course the person has contracts with major city orchestras...... Seek out a school instrument wooden instrument repairmen.. "luthier" due to specialty and not general repair might cost more. Of course even a person who works with mahogany and fixes lathed furniture legs that cracks (assuming you wish to be resourceful and cut corners).. Wood workers often know enough about wood properties and finishing work to do a job too... I wouldn't do this myself... nor would I suggest you do it yourself..

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I went to the music store yesterday to grab a capo (mine has apparently went awol...) and the guys dad was there running the store for him. He said he can fix it up just fine, not like brand new... but as good as. He said main thing is to get it perfectly straight when regluing it or that I WOULD have tuning issues and that it would be nigh impossible to get the glued part UNglued once it was done. He quoted me about $30... I told him to go for it. No pins or rods, just resetting it, gluing it and clamping it down. Better than me doing it I guess, this guys done such before.

Heck though, I can't win for losing. I was messing with some recording last night... did a guitar part on another of my guitars, then decided since it's an oldie song that I'd do a fiddle part. Well hell, I opened up my case and the freakin' tail piece had broken. !@#!@#$%##$#%!!!

Right where the E string is... musta had a hairline crack and finally gave way. Luckily that was an easy fix, and I had a spare.

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Hey Mandi it sounds like the Music gods don't want you playing for a while


Just kidding. I have an older guitar also that I only play rarely so I leave the
strings loose as to not always have stress on the neck of course I always keep
it in a hard case too just to be sure.


L.W.

I hear that all the rock stars bust up guitars every night.. What's the problem?

Yeah, that's the way it sounds, huh? But fogettaboutit... it's not like ALL the guitars in the house got broken... just my favorite one;) Thanks for the vote of confidence buddy, that's just the kind of thing I was needing to hear.



Ooh, big problem is that I don't have platinum albums selling nationwide, so therefore I don't have the $$$ to go out and replace a guitar every time I feel like it.

(really pizzes me off to see them do that anyhow, what retards)

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Hey Charmin, that's great news about the luthier being able to repair your guitar's neck for $30! That's a very good price too! I doubt he'd offer to take on the job if he didn't think it'd be a successful repair.

Oh, actually, I found out he's NOT a "luthier", he doesn't normally repair instruments. He's a wood craftsman;) But he has done lots of messing with instruments and stuff, that's just not "his trade". I could tell by his manner of talking about it that he does know enough to do it right. And he's familiar with instruments. So... I'll find out soon enough.

Good enough for me though. Hell, everything I'VE ever glued together tends to lean sideways when you set it up, hahaha.

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That happens quite abit. Why the E string on the Violins dunno, If anything I'd think there'd be more tension on the lower G or D strings... Yet that's happened to me too.. I just use an epoxy and on the E string set a fine-tuner into the opening since the E string should really have a fine tuning device anyway..

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Steven, I do actually have all 4 fine tuners... I can't stand to not have them on. Actually, I don't understand why it broke the way it did... just thinking perhaps someone before me didn't have one and the E put a bit of strain (hairline crack) there. My bridge usually wears from the E string, can't stand those little rubber string wrap thingees that come on the E string, they seem to deaden the sound of the string too much- so I don't use them. I did find a cool bridge though from internationalviolincompany dot com that has an ebony inset where the E string crosses the bridge. I'm gonna get me a couple of those I think.

Like I said, not a biggie, THAT is the least of my instrument worries at the moment. That's about all the babbling I have in me this morning.

Have a good day...

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Just wonderin' if you baby got fixed yet?

L.W.

Thanks for asking...

I haven't checked back with the music store yet, I've been a bit busy..

I should stop by today tho, I'm sure it's sitting there waiting on me (missing me, probably cryin', thinking I'm never coming back)

I'll let ya know when I do get it, and how it worked out.

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Charmin, that poor guitar is still waiting for it's mom? Hope he hasn't picked up any bad habits hangin' around other, perhaps not so nice guitars, like heavy metal riffs and some of those death or speed metal licks!

He knows better, he'd be grounded to the guitar rack, for like... a week!

I didn't stop by today, I was at work till 6:30 helping Matt make signs for the booth at the fair. Woohoo, fair starts tomorrow. (can ya tell I'm excited to be spending 1/2 my work days at the fairgrounds? Lol)

I'll try and stop in tomorrow and check on it. Like I've had time to play lately anyhow:(

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MandiLynn… you’re Charmin? I remember you from when I first joined here.

How’s your son doing on the guitar?

Anyways, no luthier required for that, just someone familiar with woodworking; the guy you entrusted should do fine.

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Hey, yeah..... it's me. New name, same ol' face:)

I'm hoping the guitar comes out okay, I'm thinking it will. Thanks.

My son? You must mean Harley. I subbed a few tracks of him learning guitar riffs once a long time ago. Ummm, he's much improved. He doesn't do much when he's home except play guitar, he's switched over to acoustic now (yay, finally!!) and is doing alot more with lead and rythm. (he kinda got away from wanting to learn just little rock n' roll riffs)

He does a pretty killer version of "man of constant sorrow" on acoustic, he recently played his first gig with a group of young men starting out that wanted him on lead & he played that one. If I could figure out how to yank a clip off the live dvd, I'd post it (somewhere) Not a big event, but pretty exciting for a boy not quite 15.

(gosh, did you put me in "proud mama" mode, or what? haha.. asking me about my kids - big mistake)

Thanks for asking;)

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Yeah, Harley… sorry I forgot.

I remember I went over to some other guitar forum to find an answer to a question you had (I think you even showed up for one thread), but dang if I can remember what that was... ahh, memory… first thing to go, eh?

I’m glad that he’s doing well with it.

“Man Of Constant Sorrow”… dang, that’s one I should learn.

Just last week my buddy picked that song to sing on karaoke while visiting; what a coinkidink!

And you should be proud of Harley.

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"If I could figure out how to yank a clip off the live dvd......."

I can take care of that for you Charmin.

It's a deal;)

The kid who filmed only did partial clips of songs, but it was still cool.



Yes, I remember that, now that you mention it. Haha, I don't recall what forum it was either, but I somehow got directed there, and yes I posted there that day. Yeah, the memory is the first thing to go, but that's only cause it takes us a few years to learn to be selective about what we wish to recall;) If only I could forget a few more things, life would start looking up.

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Hi Charmin! I can't imagine what I would do if something like that ever happened to my guitar! I know you said that is was not worth a lot, but I don't look at it that way. To me, a guitar is only worth what it means to the person who plays it. If you remember, I play a special Les Paul that I ordered back in 1979. There was only 180 of this guitar produced. In the eyes of the guitar world, this guitar is very special. They have no idea how special it is to me. I am the only one who has ever touched it. People all time want to pick it up and play it. I tell them they are signing their death warrant if they touch that guitar. I have never held anything so wonderful, so sweet, that responds to such a light touch. Sounds like I am talking about a woman, but I have a personal identity with that guitar. That is what makes your Ibanez so special to you. It is how it feels, how it responds to your touch, how it sounds to you. That means you have a guitar that is priceless to you. No one could ever buy my Les Paul. My daughter will get it when I am dead and gone. She said she will always keep it as a reminder of me. She knows that guitar is an extension of who I am. That is the way you Ibanez has become to you. For me, no other guitar will do. I have others, but I dont play them. The Les Paul gets all my attention. I am sure, from what I read, you are the same about your Ibanez. I am hoping that it returns to you and gives you the joy it has always given you. From one guitar player to another, I think I understand what you have been going through! I once told a man you can take my wife, but dont touch my guitar! I still have my guitar and I am the winner of that one! Good luck Charmin!!--Mike