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Sure judgement calls are always a part of the equation, I make them on occasion myself when I look at the new (current) music that comes out. Watch the music award shows - often these songs become popular & listen to the forums on what MIGHT be hot. I don't always act on it, but sometimes I will. I bought Sugarland Stay because of the scuttlebutt in the forum about being such a hot tune, plus Sugarland being very popluar, I can count on one hand how many times i've heard it sung.


It does suck, but unless you unlimited funds & resources to pick up everything ever made (even those that aren't), this question will never end - do you have.....? It's something that one must deal with. I run just shy under 12K songs but get people coming in all the time stating wow I have songs they've wanted but the guy down the street with a 100K computer loaded system doesn't. Whether they are blowing smoke - I don't know, but I know I have alot of stuff that has been discontinued for years.



Venue, crowd (maybe even age) dependant on these songs.

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Yet they still get purchased by consumers? Every company is going to start with a core set of popular songs (or what they think is popular). Someone is getting introduced & buying a karaoke set/discs everyday. One of the new companies may be what they purchase because it has exactly what they want, they personally like the version or it was cheap.

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I guess he's never heard of Imelda Marcos.

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One problem is that for US karaoke makers they need copyright approval...

For a major act that still exists, or was managed by a major studio/record company then tracking down who needs to sign off for permissions is not too difficult..

On the other hand a one hit wonder from the 20+ years ago may be just very hard to find the person to get approval. Somtimes even the songwriter is dead and tracking down the owner of the songrights is even harder. Other bands that have broken up may have differences between band members such that getting the former co-writers to both sign anything is not going to happen.

Some other artists also may ask for too much money from a karaoke maker. For example a songwriter may ask for a 2000 dollars for the karaoke rights for a song that will only likely sell 500 copies.... The karaoke maker won't want to charge enough to get back the cost so they will not bother with many such "difficult" musicians.

Usually a big act (even a former one) has someone who will handle the financial arrangements for things such as karaoke and will charge the going rates to the karaoke maker. A smaller act, that had more obscure (small market) songs is likely to ask for too much out of ignorance or greed.

Some artists may see it as "cheapening" their art to have a karaoke version as well. If their song was only a minor hit 30 years ago, it may be a minor niche song today, and unlikely to be worth paying much for, and without financial incentive the songwriters will not go for it.

Fortunately in the UK laws are different and a lot of good stuff comes out of Zoom, Sunfly and SBI and a few others....

Well maybe if you'd listen to others once in awhile you'd know. You got a very clear answer from the guy at Zoom. The same songs as everyone else are the ones that sell the best. They're not just pulling that theory out of their butt, they have years of data backing it up.

Your whole premise seems to be based on there being no cost to the manufacturers to produce these songs. If they're going to spend the money to license and record a song, they want it to sell enough copies to turn a profit. It ain't rocket science.

Wow, see this one is super popular around here. It gets done practically every night. A few weeks ago, I had three girls try to turn it in as their first song.

Just goes to show how certain songs can be popular regionally.

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Judging from my room, "Stay" is popular out here in the Pacific Northwest too. Lonnie just hasn't been hit yet for some reason.

Women have never competed over who gets to sing it or anything. It just keeps coming up steadily, often from women who don't know each other (so it's not that kind of connection), and from different age groups, which is unusual for a recent song.

It was never the "hot" song of the moment, even when it was first released. But always there. And still is, now past the time when these types of songs usually fade away.

Little big Town is another artist here that just seems to grow. Boondocks actually more requested than Stay. Everybody in this industry is so tied up with legalities and money that they have no concept of promotion or business.

If I had a newer band I would strive to get a hot song in karaoke. I really think karaoke had more to do with the 2 bands success than anything else.

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