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jdmeister
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Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 7:28 pm |
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MorganLeFey @ Thu Oct 02, 2008 10:15 pm wrote: why chinese?
They have a new slant on Karaoke?
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Boatman
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 8:00 pm |
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jayvan @ Sat Oct 04, 2008 2:40 pm wrote: What I learned about Sarah from the debate is that her personally is just a bit fragile for a politician and her knowledge of current issues are very thin. But in her defense I think that Sarah is just now getting started to understand the right things to say but she is just not quiet getting why it's the right things to say. At best Sarah is a work in progress. But I do believe she held her own and she has a great room presence. Better presence than what I see in Mccain and she is much better at public speaking than what I think of G.W. Republicans should be very pleased with her performance. note: Just a simple minded point of view. But it's mine and it doesn't have to be yours.
Hey Jay Van,...Your opinion is just as valid as anyone elses, but for whatever it's worth, I agree with you. She does have " great room presence".
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Magz
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:56 am |
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Not to step on anyone's toes, but I disagree.
Almost all of the pundits agreed that while Palin did NOT gaffe majorly, they said she did lose the debate. (the gaffe was calling Gen. McKiernan, Mclellan.)
So the McCain camp issued the statement that she,"proved beyond a doubt that she's ready to lead." Huh? She's ready to lead because she lost a debate but didn't totally embarrass herself on National TV by proclaiming that Alaska's proximity to Russia makes her next in line for head of the CIA. (yes that's a joke, but not by much)
And I personally don't want someone to be President whom everyone wants to have a beer with.... That was what got us the current "person" in office.
I want someone smarter, more educated, more articulate, and more charismatic than I. I would NEVER think that I am qualified to be the leader of the free world. I want someone who knows fiscal policy and can deal with this upheaval we are all going through. I want someone better than me, not equated to me.
And as for hot..... Anna Nicole Smith was a bombshell... would anyone have wanted her as VP?... just sayin.
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ggardein
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 2:45 pm |
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They both seemed very presidential......
Biden, as in President of the United States of America......
Palin, as maybe president of the local P.T.O, but she wouldn't last very long. She believes she will see the end of the world in her life time....now this part is my 2 cents....maybe she thinks God might want her to press the button.... ....ps...Tina Fey is way more attractive.....
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Boatman
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 5:53 pm |
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Not to step on anyone's toes, but I disagree.
Hi maggie,
Don't worry about stepping on anyones toes here. I could care less what anyone posts on my threads, even if they are "Off Topic" (not saying you were). Also I don't expect everyone to agree with my liking of Sarah, and as I have stated before, I don't base my friendships on peoples politics. I just like the differing viewpoints, and the interaction as long as we are civil, and respectful of one another. I enjoyed reading your post....Ron
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Sheree
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:52 pm |
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I think Sarah does well when she is well prepared. She was a sports reporter for a local TV station so I'm not surprised that she can play well to the camera and read a teleprompter. I think she overused the word "Maverick" and said Joe's name too many times, fer corns sake. I just wonder if McCain would have chosen her if she looked like Janet Reno. Were there plenty of more experienced candidates he could have chosen?
You betcha.
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Catseyeview
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Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 5:36 am |
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It's very refreshing seeing some NOT jumping on the Sarah Palin bandwagon, thanks ladies
There's something about her that just doesn't set right with me. Maybe it's the way it feels she's trying to "fit in" with the Washington set when clearly (IMO) she doesn't. Maybe it's all the negative undertones of stories about her as governor that haven't hit the national spotlight. Maybe it's all this "bridge to nowhere" debacle which, according to the campaign ads, she voted down which clearly is an outright lie (she supported it completely, read the stories). I do know it has nothing to do with her as a woman and a mother because I respect that and all she's accomplished, especially the way she handled the pressure when it was revealed her teenage daughter is pregnant. And wow!, how about some praise for Obama during that time for declaring to the world "lay off the families"--not many would (and didn't) do that for their opponents.
I think McCain chose Palin in desperation, not for her qualifications but rather the shock factor. Hey, it worked for a couple weeks, but now the dust has settled the people are finally remembering the important issues. Like Maggie said (hiya hun), just because you're hot doesn't mean you're qualified to lead the free world.
BTW, nice reference to Janet Reno, Sheree. How the hellya been darlin'?
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Sheree
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Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 12:24 pm |
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Quote: BTW, nice reference to Janet Reno, Sheree. How the hellya been darlin'?
Hi Cat! I hope Janet doesn't read that! I'm doing good. I'm glued to the debates just like most of America.
I agree with you nobodyhome. I don't think McCain was putting the country first in this instance.
I think Sarah is no doubt a bright woman, and a very ambitious one too. She hit the lotto with being tapped for the Republican ticket. But she has shown that she is just not ready for the highest office in the land. Not by a long shot (IMHO).
I must also add, I don't care for her extreme conservative outlook. I think she could set women back and cost us some rights we are now afforded. The next President will probably replace at least three Supreme Court Judges.
Just sayin'.
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Babs
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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 9:30 am |
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I'm still undecided. I go back and forth for different reasons. I do feel more comfortable with McCain handling international affairs and I like the tax refund idea for insurance. I'm afraid if Obama trys to make ins. run by the government he'll never get it passed. They've tried it in the past and it always gets turned down. It's one thing to say they are going to do it, when in reality it has to be passed by congress first. We need help now.
I'm not sold on Palin. She appears very intelligent, but so inexperienced. I agree she isn't the strongest in women's rights. That doesn't scare me though. She isn't going to undo any strives we made foward. I think she'll have a tough time in Washington though without having a clue how things work there.
I get the impression Palin, Biden and Obama just want to be elected. I get the strong impression McCain honestly puts the country first. He took a lot of crap for wanting to delay the debates to take care of the bail out plan first. That said a lot to me.
After writing this I guess I am leaning McCain. I'm still holding my vote back until I hear more though. My daughters are very concerned about voting this yr. It will be the first time for both of them. I told them there is no wrong decision on who to vote for. Some of the most intelligent people in the US disagree on who is better. They watched the debates and are trying to get as much information as they can which is all they can do.
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Boatman
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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 3:15 pm |
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Still like that new outfit Babs........
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lordairgtar
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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 3:17 pm |
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With good reason one should research the choices of who we are going to vote for. The life of Palin pales in comparison to Obama's background, Yes, he is intelligent, well versed in politics and his running mate is an asset as was said before. But I am not so concerned with them as who the respective candidates would pick for their cabinets. I worry that someone of the caliber of a Tim Ayers or a Bernadine Dohrn will wind up with those jobs.
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Ronny D.
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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:19 pm |
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lordairgtar @ Thu Oct 09, 2008 5:17 pm wrote: With good reason one should research the choices of who we are going to vote for. The life of Palin pales in comparison to Obama's background, Yes, he is intelligent, well versed in politics and his running mate is an asset as was said before. But I am not so concerned with them as who the respective candidates would pick for their cabinets. I worry that someone of the caliber of a Tim Ayers or a Bernadine Dohrn will wind up with those jobs.
And maybe the good Reverend Wright as the Chaplin of the House. There are some real possibilities there.
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Sheree
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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 7:37 pm |
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I think the McCain camp mudslinging is getting ridiculous. I think he's whipping his crowds into a hateful frenzy. I think it could actually get dangerous for Obama. If Jesus ran for President of the United States, he'd have a lot of explaining to do with all of his unsavory associations. These attacks from McCain are angry and erratic. I'm sorry, but I don't want a hothead to be the next President of the United States. And it's a well known fact that he has an explosive temper.
I've done a lot of research on both candidates and their running mates.
I honestly do not think that Obama is anti-American, or that he is in any way connected to terrorism.
I mean, McCain is associated with some pretty unsavory characters himself, starting with Charles Keating. I wouldn't hold that against him either. What matters is what they both stand for.
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LondonLive
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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 4:31 am |
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I've been reading these posts over the last several days and agree with some and not with others. I've been surprised by a few also. I know it doesn't really matter what my opinions are, but I do have the urge to respond to some of the comments I've seen on here like "Gimmick" . Speaking of gimmicks, do you believe for a minute that Obama is the most qualified democrat to be representing their party? I seriously doubt he would make it into the top 100. You do realize that he hasn't even completed his first term in the US Senate. I thought it was quite obvious that the democratic party ( and the main stream media) wanted him to win their primary and low and behold he did. Will the surprises never end. The democrats were shooting for the minority vote (as they always do) and they knew it would be a lock with him as their candidate. I've also seen the term " Lack Of Experience", if you consider a Junior Senator, (I'm pretty sure that's how they refer to first term Senators) as having the knowledge and experience to run a country then you probably don't work in Human Recourses for any major corporation. That's kind of like promoting the new hire office clerk to CEO. Even Palin has more government leadership history than Obama has. "Mud Slinging", I don't think the fact that Obama hasn't done a lot as of yet is not so much because he is just such a nice guy as he knows if it gets down to some serious mud slinging he's going to actually have to explain some things. I did think that implying that the POW camp McCain was in was like a tea party after hours was extremely disrespectful, not only to McCain but to all veterans. As far a Keating, their was an investigation and it was found that there was no wrong doing. Comparing Keating to Ayers and Wright is like comparing the Pillsbury Doughboy to Charels Manson. I would have said Keating would be considered a choir boy in comparison, but then I realized he might have been a choir boy in Rev. Wrights church. Anyway, just a few of my thoughts. I'm not excited about our choices in this election, but the powers that be have only given us these two. I think there should be a "None of the Above" box to check also. Yes, I'm probably going McCain/Palin, I just can't buy into this product the Democrats have packaged and are trying to sell. I don't care how people vote, just make sure you do, just be an informed voter and in the case of ACORN voters, vote often. This may come as a shock to some, but the supposed news channels out there may just have an agenda of their own. Don't be affraid to watch something that might actually say something you might not want to hear. I watch all the channels, I know somewhere in the middle is the truth. Peace.
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