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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:18 am 
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Wow This was interesting. I wonder if anything will become of it.

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One of the things that boggle my mind is when I talk to most people they seem to be pro McCain, but when I listen to the news it is the opposite. It must be where I live that makes the difference, but wait - I live in Chicago. :shock:

What did you think of the video? Wierd huh

The funny thing is it doesn't sway my opinion. It just makes me worry what will happen if he gets ellected and they find out he isn't a natural citizen. Then what? Will he lose his position as president. This could be a huge scandal. We need another presidential scandal like a hole in the head. Especially with the economy like it is.

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honey its a spoof.

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The lawsuit is real -

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2067017/posts

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First off, any group that calls themselves 'Illuminati Pictures' loses all credibility with me. It's a fringe group that spreads conspiracy theories, even though the guy doing the intro says he's "not into conspiracy theories" that is a load of bee ess. :lol: There was a very convincing video going around a few years ago called "Loose Change" ...it described how our own government planned and carried out the attacks on 9-11. It had a lot of people questioning the theory and a lot of believers. Philip J. Berg (the accuser here) was among the believers stating "Bush and his cronies made 9/11 happen or let it happen. And, if they let it happen, then they made it happen. Either way, they are responsible; and more important, they have completely and unequivocally covered-it-up!" :roll:

Second, this guy has two websites called "nohussein.org" and "obamacrimes.org" ... obviously this guy is not someone looking for truth but trying to stir things up with Obama haters. That scares the heck out of me. There is a lot of cr@p floating around on YouTube and the internet in general. Don't believe everything you see. Believe me! If there were an ounce of truth to this, Fox News would be ALL over it in a heartbeat!


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Dont believe half of what the press puts or nothing on the internet However I dont think he has the capabilities to be president or commander-in-chief..

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The easiest way to stop the lawsuit and the growing controversy would be simply to produce a valid birth certificate. No one should think that they are above the law. The more the Dems fight this the more it looks like they're hiding something.


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The DNC would not have allowed Obama to even declare as a Democrat if he were not legally able to run. This is the type of stuff that surfaces just before November.

My home room of young patrons is practically 100% for Obama. I'm doing an Elks lodge tonight that will be practically 100% McCain supporters. And they will be singing out of totally different parts of my book too. Maybe there's something to that I dunno...

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Berg is a nut bar. Although I am not an Obama supporter, I think this video is on of many that you can find on the web. I am not so concerned with an Obama presidency as I am with the possibility of cabinet posts given to people like Bill Ayers and his wife, Bernadine Dorhn. Those two terrorists should have been shot years ago.


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I tell you, if the votes came from outside USA, Obama would be all alone in the race :wink: This guy is wanted by the rest of the world, we're all praying :worship:


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karyoker @ Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:53 pm wrote:
Dont believe half of what the press puts or nothing on the internet However I dont think he has the capabilities to be president or commander-in-chief..


Can it be worst than the guy who just spent 8 years :!:


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The birth certificate has been produced, copied and posted online. But come on. No matter what, it's not good enough. There will always be people who will think its a forgery. I have received a slew of negative emails about Obama from both family and friends in the past few months. Some of it says; he's a Muslim, he's an unpatriotic person who refuses to Pledge to our flag, he was born in Kenya, he blew off U.S. soldiers during a July 2008 trip to Afghanistan, he was sworn into the Senate using the Koran, he matches the description of the anti-Christ according to Revelations...the list goes on and on.

Most of this stuff is used as a scare tactic. Just by putting suspicion in peoples minds is enough, because many people really don't follow this stuff up by researching the real facts. These people are the targets. This is a presidential election and the gloves are off on both sides.



http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/bi ... ficate.asp


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No, I'd say it's unanimous :wink: The whole world is sooooo anxious to see him leave, he'll make history for been the worst President :roll:


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Here's the irony.......McCain isn't a natural born citizen......born in Panama..


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Babs @ Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:26 pm wrote:
One of the things that boggle my mind is when I talk to most people they seem to be pro McCain, but when I listen to the news it is the opposite. It must be where I live that makes the difference, but wait - I live in Chicago. :shock:

What did you think of the video? Wierd huh

The funny thing is it doesn't sway my opinion. It just makes me worry what will happen if he gets ellected and they find out he isn't a natural citizen. Then what? Will he lose his position as president. This could be a huge scandal. We need another presidential scandal like a hole in the head. Especially with the economy like it is.


oh my.....you live in Illinois.....your vote won't count....


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Sheree @ Sat Oct 18, 2008 11:57 am wrote:
I have received a he matches the description of the anti-Christ according to Revelations...the list goes on and on.




hahahah so at the time did henry kissenger :)...thing is...it can be kinda arrogant to assume (if one is a christian) that the anti-christ will be american...america is no longer the only super power.

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This has got to be the craziest thing i have ever seen...no wait, Joe Plumber is the CRAZIEST thing I have ever seen. I was watching Oreilly tonight and it had some psycho right wing guest host who was going off on the media crusade launched on "poor" Joe. The poor "American" cant leave his house without a slew of reporters wanting to talk to him ( and yet he booked himself on over 7 Right wing talk shows in the last 3 days) and "poor" Joe has been thrust into the limelight by the Left where he has lost all privacy (nevermind McCaine saying his name over 20 times during the debate) and "poor" Joe will never be able to run his plumbing company (nevermind hes not a licensed plumber) and "poor" Joe will get his (@$%&#!) rocked by Obamas tax on people making over 250,000 (never mind that he owes over 1500 dollars in unpaid back taxes) and "poor" Joe will go broke paying the difference in Obamas new tax code (forget about the fact that the increase Obama is proposing will cost him a whopping extra 900 dollars a year over what he would pay under the current tax code earning 250,000 dollars. Face it "Joe" you are nothing but a selfish prick to this average Joe who makes less than 20 k a year and has no health care to cover over 5000 dollars in medical bills wjhile the while the wall street skydivers are jumping as we speak with thier new golden parachutes. So those who knock Obama go right ahead, I have no doubt he is winning this thing and I for one am looking for a country who gives back a little to take care of their struggling brothers.

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MorganLeFey @ Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:44 pm wrote:
Sheree @ Sat Oct 18, 2008 11:57 am wrote:
I have received a he matches the description of the anti-Christ according to Revelations...the list goes on and on.




hahahah so at the time did henry kissenger :)...thing is...it can be kinda arrogant to assume (if one is a christian) that the anti-christ will be american...america is no longer the only super power.


I've heard that claim about Henry too. :lol: The whole point of the email was stating that Obama is NOT an American. The Revelation has been interpreted many ways, at one time it was thought that Hitler was "it". This particular email is of the popular Christian interpretation that he will be a male in his 40s and of Muslim descent - conveniently tying in the assumption that Barrack is indeed a Muslim AND the anti-Christ all in one. But in actuality, there is no description in the New Testament of the anti-Christ, nor does it even say the word "anti-Christ".

But I only brought that up to point out how absurd these claims are. These ridiculous claims are trying to strike fear in the Christian community and make the secular people feel like he is just "not one of us".


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dumbdrums @ Fri Oct 17, 2008 6:51 pm wrote:
This has got to be the craziest thing i have ever seen...no wait, Joe Plumber is the CRAZIEST thing I have ever seen. I was watching Oreilly tonight and it had some psycho right wing guest host who was going off on the media crusade launched on "poor" Joe. The poor "American" cant leave his house without a slew of reporters wanting to talk to him ( and yet he booked himself on over 7 Right wing talk shows in the last 3 days) and "poor" Joe has been thrust into the limelight by the Left where he has lost all privacy (nevermind McCaine saying his name over 20 times during the debate) and "poor" Joe will never be able to run his plumbing company (nevermind hes not a licensed plumber) and "poor" Joe will get his <span style=font-size:10px><i>(@$%&#!)</i></span> rocked by Obamas tax on people making over 250,000 (never mind that he owes over 1500 dollars in unpaid back taxes) and "poor" Joe will go broke paying the difference in Obamas new tax code (forget about the fact that the increase Obama is proposing will cost him a whopping extra 900 dollars a year over what he would pay under the current tax code earning 250,000 dollars. Face it "Joe" you are nothing but a selfish prick to this average Joe who makes less than 20 k a year and has no health care to cover over 5000 dollars in medical bills wjhile the while the wall street skydivers are jumping as we speak with thier new golden parachutes. So those who knock Obama go right ahead, I have no doubt he is winning this thing and I for one am looking for a country who gives back a little to take care of their struggling brothers.


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