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Ron,
I agree with you. The problems we are facing as a country are a result of both partys. The executive branch of our government is Republican (Bush ) The house and Senate are largely run by the Democrats (at least for the last 2 years). Now the democrats can talk about how much they are going to change things if they wish, but in the 2 years they have controled the house and senate, the country has continued to slide downward. How can anyone be blind enough to believe that only the Replublicans are to blame?

The great concern I have is in the selection of President because of the powers that job posesses. First of all, a president can not do all that McCain or Obama talks about doing. They dont have that power. Obama has the best shot at it because of the support of the democratic party in the house and senate. But that can also be a problem. Without a balance of powers in government we could see ourselves set up for a very radical president to, with the wave of his hand, evoke the constitutional rights we all enjoy. We can claim our rights are, as the bill of rights suggests, rights given to us by rights of humanity and soveignty of God.

If he were to chose to do so, marshal law could be imposed and our country could fall under the order of a dictator. As commander in chief, the armed forces would be duty bound to follow him. That is what scares the heck out of me with Obama. He has too many questionable ties to the mid-east. To me, he is just a slick politician telling people anything they want to hear to be elected. Once America sees who he really is, it will be too late. That is my fear.

Call it crazy if you wish, I am just not willing to risk my country to the hands of someone who was, until not too long ago, a practicing muslim. I know too much about the muslim governments and what makes them tick. I have studied it in detail in graduate Political Science classes, taught by one of their very own, a one time Iranian ambassaor.

ml_texas - Good post. I'm with you on your points. Hang in there.

NBC doesnt claim to be "fair and balanced" though do they..thats what im talkin about. Of course im aware of the bias at NBC. its a lot worse though to sell yourself as something you are not, like fox does...

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At least MSNBC has a sense of humor along with their good, admittedly liberal talk shows. Now Fox And Friends on Fox is a hoot! Unfortunately for Fox they probably don't intend it to be.

I noticed that no one crossed out the Republican part and then put up a picture of Maureen Dowd ot left wing journalist in a Soviet uniform, complete with hammer and sickle. I guess the right has more class.

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Hey Mikey, maybe you could do one of your photoshop routines on Maureen Dowd to keep this whole thing "fair and balanced"!

Tell me this if you already have health insurance how is Obama going to help you. He is helping the uninsured. Under his plan if you have health ins. through your employer you keep it and if your employer doesn't offer it they'll be fined.

My daughter can barely afford her health insurance through work as it is. She sure would benefit from having $2500 check from the government to help off set her premiums. Now the arguement is this money will be taxed - even if it is it will still pay for all of her premiums. If this happens she'll have money to pay for the portion of her meds. that haven't been covered by insurance.

In her situation it makes sense to vote McCain.

The nice thing is both canidates agree on opening up the market to include us being able to by meds from other countries. Which will be cheaper and hopefully lower US meds. Of course they will only include those countries that are proven to have the same strict guidelines as us like Europe and Canada.

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Right now us vets do not have the quality of health care like the illegals. Either way we will suffer more although I do trust McCain to take care of us.

If you can give me one example of how the congress or president helped this nation in the last 20 years I will kiss your arse and give you 2 days to draw a crowd.

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Sure, under Clinton, we darned near got rid of the deficit.

actually we did, we had a surplus.....did you mean national debt?

Who had the majority in congress? What have the democrats done with a majority in the house in the last 4 years other than blaming Bush and trying to dig up dirt and hang republicans? Nada Zilch. All they were doing was lining their pockets and trying to get more control. If you are so brainwashed by media then I feel sorry for you. I will say it again IF THE PRESIDENT Has That Much CONTROl Over Our Economy Then WE Must Live In Russia.

Back before they had so much control over the economy a man or woman could work 40 hours a week and supprt a big family and you want them to fix it? Gawd!!!

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And where did this surplus come from??

I think the problem now is people don't spend within their means! "Back then" people knew how to stretch their dollar, mainly because they had to to survive. My Grandma & Grandpa had 10 kids total - with 8 living at the house at any given time. They said their income was technically under what would be considered 'poverty' level. But they survived, owned a house - saving what they could for the downpayment, made their own clothes. Portioned out their meals - growing their own veggies & some seasonal fruits in the summertime in their backyard (not farmland), powdered milk (the kids didn't know what real milk tasted like until their later teens) - this was later enhanced to add half powdered/half real milk when things got a little better), made lunches for schools. Their first tv was bought in the late 60's. They entertained themselves by being a family together - singing, playing games, telling stories - unheard of today by most - ANY of this. How many kids would want to go to school in homemade clothes - probably a very small percentage would feel comfortable. How many get credit cards & max them out within a few months? How many make more dinner than you are probably going to eat, maybe saving the leftovers for tomorrow, or probably more than likely going to let it rot in the fridge until you throw it out? How many kids would be happy sitting home without some kind of electronics?
It seems many (i'm guilty in the past as well & now repairing my mistakes) get to making a certain amount & try to LIVE that amount to find out when something happens, loss of job, medical emergency, cut in pay, etc....then you can longer live at that point you are used to. You have to live at a point - say if you are making $20 an hour, try to live so you only MAKE $10-15 an hour & put the rest in savings. It can be done, just a matter of how hard you want to work...
People need to change their spending habits to fix their own economies - may not help the nation as a whole because there would be less spending - kind of a vicious circle.

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Well I'm a right leaning Republican and I thought that picture was hilarious. Sean Hanity is over the top as far as I'm concerned. I do find that the media is extremely biased these days. Back in the days of Walter Cronkite that kind of thing did not exist. Two decades ago, public attitudes about how news organizations do their job were less negative. Most people believed that news organizations stood up for America. Most believed that news organizations got the facts straight, not so today.

where is this neighborhood of makebelieve where i can make 20 bucks an hour ? . your words are so true. we all live in a maxxed out plastic society, its not what we "need" anymore, its what we can "get" NOW..ive always been in a lower class economically and avoided credit cards for most of my life. I have resisted the urge to buy a house, cause I know on my income i would screw up the payments. so i live pretty basic. But you are right about our parents doing all those things you talked about. It seems all of our parents have something to leave to us...im afraid my son wont be so lucky when i die..

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Good post Lonnie I come from those times We did have real milk because all through my school years I milked cows 4 hours a day. That is the sad part . Nobody knows now how to butcher. It is probably illegal now in your area. As a youngster we did not have hot and cold running water or electricity. I know what it is to split wood and start a fire in the heating stove or cooking stove. My parents were out of the 30's and knew how to survive. AS a 12 year old my job on Sundays was killing and picking a chicken or two.

What blows my mind now is a woman coming home from her second job, finds a bear in her kitchen raiding her fridge with food totally laced with chemicals and she doesnt even have the right to shoot the SOB. The bear has more rights than she does. And she has to clean up and try to get enough sleep to go to her first job in the morning. And she has to keep the thermostat down in an effort to pay her heating bills. If she isnt caring for her kids according to state standards they will be taken away. I never knew my true father and if it happened to my sisters a few years ago I would have killed them. It never used to be this way until all the liberals passed their **&*** laws. If you dont think government has ruined this country then you must have been educated in their liberal controlled education system and you are brain dead from all the chemicals in the food. Eat rice and natural foods for a month and see how much your brain clears up.

Learn how to think for yourself and process your own foods. Tighten your belts and sharpen your knives and learn how to use them. The wives should have a pressure cooker and be storing for the winter canning goods. Some of my knowledge comes from folks living in a soddie with dirt floors. I do know how to live that way. It is called survival and back then neighbor helped neighbor. Those were good times when a man knew what a man was and a woman knew what a woman was and there was no war of the sexes. People were mated for life. I am glad I lived in those times when America was America. Do I weep when I l see this country now? YES>>>> I want to walk out in the middle of the street and scream what the F**k have you done to my country?..

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Right on with that post Lonnie....people can't continually spend beyond their means, and neither can business. Some governments (like the US) think they can, but that scam is coming to an end too. Did someone mention the national debt here? 10 trillion, and going up fast, thats what I love about our politicians. Ignore the problem and it will go away. Thats right, the answer to all of todays problems is more debt, lets see 700 billion here, 100 billion there, and now we are going to bail out other countries too!
Ross Perot was the only one that made any sense to me in a long time, how could anyone disagree with the things he said? Too bad he turned out to be a flake in the end. Ron

Good post Lonnie. An example of that was when my parents bought their house in 1963, the house across the street was 3 feet longer and $3 more a month. They didn't buy it because it was outside their budget. Their big expense was a black and white TV and a car. It wasn't til about 1970 that they got a colour TV. They raised six of us and my grandparents on a naval senoir NCO pay which was not much in those days. For vacations, they bought a used tent trailer and we went all over the place with that thing, Of course camp grounds were affordable. When us four boys got into hockey, my dad bought a bag of used equipment and spent most of his time going from dressing room to dresing room for us to share it. By using the money wisely, my mother is well off since his death 13 years ago.

oday everyone needs the big new house, big new SUV, all new furniture and electronics and clothing immediately. And people wonder why the economy is in the toilet.

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Sorry timberlea, I used your quote to make a humorous jab...

True, both extremes are unappealing, but since I lean a little to the left -- right wing extremists are frightening to me.

When I say I lean a little left, that is mostly in regard to personal liberties and environmental issues. This is what brought about my initial comment about Palin. I hate the fact that we have to choose a (right/left) side. It pits us all against each other and we end up having these stereotypical judgments based on a label.

I haven't heard anybody really use the word "conservative" as an insult, but I've heard the word "liberal" used in a very derogatory way. I don't see either side as "evil" really. Just a philosophy in how to get a result, the same result we all want, freedom, prosperity, equality...yadda yadda...

I'm sure most people are a mixture of beliefs and hopefully we are not stuck in these beliefs just because that is what we've always believed. Sometimes one way doesn't work, so we need to try another. That's where I'm at.

In an effort to keep my initial post short, I labeled Palin. I guess I should have been more specific but I was being lazy. I shouldn't have posted at all.




Whatever happens, happens. I voted early so it's out of my hands now.

I think the only change I'm personally going to see is in the coin jar on my shelf.